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View Full Version : Envoymont or Piedvoy?


Jamesthunder
04-09-2018, 08:07 AM
Rumors? I've been hearing whispers that started as "it would make the most sense to now, "it's happening."


Newstick189
04-09-2018, 08:15 AM
Rumors? I've been hearing whispers that started as "it would make the most sense to now, "it's happening."

On our end at Piedmont, we have been hearing that the name would be Enpiedmoy.

Gooselives
04-09-2018, 08:16 AM
If so, flow now 2 0 y e a r s


NoValueAviator
04-09-2018, 08:23 AM
Implying they wouldn't just name it "Piedmont" and acquire Skywest or something.

ChickHicks
04-09-2018, 08:28 AM
The name I heard was, American Eagle Airlines.

NoValueAviator
04-09-2018, 08:34 AM
The name I heard was, American Eagle Airlines.

They won't do that, it'll make us harder to sell next time there's a downturn.

Jamesthunder
04-09-2018, 08:43 AM
They won't do that, it'll make us harder to sell next time there's a downturn.

Assuming there will be a downturn in Parker's future of "We will never lose money again!"

E175 Driver
04-09-2018, 10:04 AM
How would the seniority list would work in case of?:confused:

67Creek
04-09-2018, 10:26 AM
Envoy gets stapled to the bottom of Piedmonts list.

ChickHicks
04-09-2018, 10:40 AM
Envoy gets stapled to the bottom of Piedmonts list.

Sounds about right.

Virga show
04-09-2018, 01:17 PM
How would the seniority list would work in case of?:confused:

I would assume it would be by hire date.

67Creek
04-09-2018, 01:43 PM
I would assume it would be by hire date.

Hopefully not! DOH doesn't have much to do with equivalent seniority when you're comparing two different lists.

Relative seniority is the way to go.

highfarfast
04-09-2018, 02:25 PM
Hopefully not! DOH doesn't have much to do with equivalent seniority when you're comparing two different lists.

Relative seniority is the way to go.

What is 'relative seniority' if it's not by doh?

Lvlng4Spd
04-09-2018, 02:51 PM
Hopefully not! DOH doesn't have much to do with equivalent seniority when you're comparing two different lists.

Relative seniority is the way to go.

Great I would be in the top 11% then! I am around 80/700 now after 7 years at PDT.

67Creek
04-09-2018, 04:25 PM
What is 'relative seniority' if it's not by doh?

If you're 20% from the top of your seniority list, you should get a position that's 20% from the top of the combined list.

You shouldn't go from 20% from the top (getting a good pick of schedule) down to 80% from the top (where all the schedules suck) just because someone decided to merge you with an old pilot group.

.. in my opinion.

griff312
04-09-2018, 05:41 PM
Don't know where ya'll got this old worn out rumor all fired up again, but it's been passed around by everybody's neighbor's aunt, who's brother-in-law's daughter's college roomate is an FA at Spirit, since the original AA / US Air merger. But yeah, it would have to happen... Eventually...
As for if / when it happens; relative seniority integration is a B!tch! ALPA merger by-laws state that if 2 ALPA carriers merge, the integrated seniority list shall be by DOH, IIRC.
However, when Pinnacle, Mesaba, and Colgan merged to form Endeavor; relative seniority ended up playing a big part. It really sucked for an 8 year guy to be slinging gear for a 2 yr CA. A lot of heartburn there...

pitchattitude
04-09-2018, 07:36 PM
Doesn’t sound very likely to merge either of the small WOs with Envoy. If anything, probably the two small ones together. AAG has to be able to whipsaw.

EmbaeDriver
04-09-2018, 09:24 PM
I will quit

Theaveragejoker
04-11-2018, 04:45 AM
I heard they were gonna make the seniority list out of actual staples.



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