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wankel7
04-10-2018, 08:16 AM
These seem interesting....

Has anybody had a chance to try them out?

https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/headphones/aviation_headsets/proflight-aviation-headset.html#ProductTabs_tab0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXR_wVFBktY


kansas
04-10-2018, 09:24 AM
Without looking at details, I have been waiting for something like this from Bose for a LONG time. I may finally be joining the "I bring my own headset to work" crowd.

OOfff
04-10-2018, 12:37 PM
Without looking at details, I have been waiting for something like this from Bose for a LONG time. I may finally be joining the "I bring my own headset to work" crowd.

Wait, there are people that DONíT bring their own headset? Gross


poor pilot
04-10-2018, 06:51 PM
Without looking at details, I have been waiting for something like this from Bose for a LONG time. I may finally be joining the "I bring my own headset to work" crowd.

I have the bose sport same design without the headband and mic.
They started falling apart within six months they were handled a little more rough than I would handle aviation headsets but for 2-300 whatever they cost itís crap. The bose label came off the volume button is barely hanging on the power button is gone.

GrumpyCaptain
04-10-2018, 09:04 PM
Clarity aloft, no better work headset out there.

WhiskeyKilo
04-11-2018, 04:34 AM
Clarity aloft, no better work headset out there.

Amen. The Bose is $995 worth of NOPE! I've had my CA's for over 5 years and they are still going strong. Only way of improving them is getting custom molded ear plugs which I highly recommend.

wankel7
04-11-2018, 04:45 AM
Amen. The Bose is $995 worth of NOPE! I've had my CA's for over 5 years and they are still going strong. Only way of improving them is getting custom molded ear plugs which I highly recommend.

I was looking over CA's website and the FAQ recommended against custom ear plugs. Any guesses on why they would say that?

Custom plugs seem like the way to go.

Riverside
04-11-2018, 04:46 AM
Amen. The Bose is $995 worth of NOPE! I've had my CA's for over 5 years and they are still going strong. Only way of improving them is getting custom molded ear plugs which I highly recommend.

My only concern with the ear mold is not having a good seal.

LumberJack
04-12-2018, 07:53 AM
Clarity aloft were uncomfortable for me. Headset is either too loose or too tight. At a comfortable tightness, they slide down when my head goes down. At a secure tightness, the skinny metal dug into the skin above my ears. It's even more uncomfortable with glasses because the glasses band and the headset compete for the same spot above your ears.

These new Bose look promising to me.

disco inferno
04-12-2018, 01:34 PM
The Bose website didn't say anything about the availability of Airbus plugs. I wonder if you can get it with the Airbus plug or if after spending $1,000 you need to spend another $50 on an adapter.

WhiskeyDelta
04-12-2018, 01:37 PM
The Bose website didn't say anything about the availability of Airbus plugs. I wonder if you can get it with the Airbus plug or if after spending $1,000 you need to spend another $50 on an adapter.


Just a thought, unless you know youíll only fly the bus the rest of your career, probably better off getting the two plug and the adapter.

WhiskeyDelta
04-12-2018, 01:39 PM
Clarity aloft, no better work headset out there.


Iím a long time CA user, too, and mine are finally starting to fray on the cords to the ear plugs. I will probably give the Bose a serious look. Canít beat a free trial. If they donít work, Iíll stick with a new CA set.

OpenClimb
04-12-2018, 09:04 PM
The Bose website didn't say anything about the availability of Airbus plugs. I wonder if you can get it with the Airbus plug or if after spending $1,000 you need to spend another $50 on an adapter.

Looks like theyíre available with the Airbus connector. The generic description of the Airbus connector is ď5 pin XLRĒ and the notes on the Bose website mention that this is one of the available options.

To test the theory, I pretended like I was going to buy one and was able to select the 5 pin plug as an option at Checkout.

Triggs
04-13-2018, 06:53 AM
I went with a Telex 5x5pro with custom ear molds, and couldn't be happier. Total cost including molds for both ears is less than the CA pro. does take some getting used to, but once you do, you don't even notice

flyguy81
04-13-2018, 12:09 PM
Iím a long time CA user, too, and mine are finally starting to fray on the cords to the ear plugs. I will probably give the Bose a serious look. Canít beat a free trial. If they donít work, Iíll stick with a new CA set.

Send them in front for a refurb. Sent mine in last year and for $150 they fixed everything up. Small price to pay for a headset thatís 10 yrs old and still works fine.

sled14
04-13-2018, 08:14 PM
Tried it on today, very conformable and the noise cancelling is impressive during the demo. It has 3 levels of ANC, and you can double tap either ear/headphone and it will disable the ANC so you can hear like normal. Didn't feel like anything was on my head. On the 320 since its not too loud I'll stick to company headset but if I'm on anything louder (73) in the future I'll definitely get one.

kansas
04-13-2018, 09:22 PM
Tried it on today, very conformable and the noise cancelling is impressive during the demo. It has 3 levels of ANC, and you can double tap either ear/headphone and it will disable the ANC so you can hear like normal. Didn't feel like anything was on my head. On the 320 since its not too loud I'll stick to company headset but if I'm on anything louder (73) in the future I'll definitely get one.

Very nice. I tried to buy one over the phone today, but they said it wasn't available for purchase until the 2nd or 3rd week of May.

Spicy McHaggis
04-14-2018, 06:01 AM
The Bose website didn't say anything about the availability of Airbus plugs. I wonder if you can get it with the Airbus plug or if after spending $1,000 you need to spend another $50 on an adapter.

From the Bose website:

How many different versions and configurations are available for the Bose ProFlight Aviation Headset?

Customers can configure their Bose ProFlight Aviation Headsets in many different ways. In addition, customers have their choice of connector configurations with each module. Designed for use in both civilian and military aircraft, the ProFlight offers all of the most common plug configurations:

Dual G/A plug (PJ 068 and ľ inch Stereo): With this option, the headset is connected to the aircraft’s intercom via a dual plug and is not powered by the aircraft. Two AA alkaline batteries provide a minimum of 45 hours of operation while flying. This configuration is the most common version purchased by pilots.

XLR 5 Pin: Often called the Airbus plug, this configuration is a mono connection to the aircraft and, depending on the installation, may be powered by the aircraft. When disconnected, the flexible power feature lets the headset switch seamlessly from aircraft power to battery power so users experience no interruption when the headset is plugged into or unplugged from a source of power.

XLR 7 Pin: The latest ARINC defined standard pin connection, which provides for binaural audio, aircraft power as well as separate grounded audio, microphone and EMI/EMF shields. Although not in wide use yet, it is being adopted by the airline industry as a new standard plug type.

6-pin connector wired to the aircraft (LEMO): With this option, the headset is connected to the aircraft via a six-pin connector and is powered directly from the aircraft. Two AA alkaline batteries can also provide pilots with a new level of flexibility. When disconnected, the flexible power feature switches the headset seamlessly from aircraft power to battery power so users experience no interruption when the headset is plugged into or unplugged from the aircraft.*

*Adapters are available from Bose to convert a 6-pin connector to either a dual G/A plug or a U174 for additional connection flexibility.




Just a thought, unless you know you’ll only fly the bus the rest of your career, probably better off getting the two plug and the adapter.


Excellent point. Wonder how many Virgin pilots thought they'd be retiring at an Airbus-only airline.

Spicy McHaggis
07-22-2018, 07:04 PM
Any reports from users out there?

Speedbird2263
07-23-2018, 07:57 AM
Any reports from users out there?

Went on sale from Bose on 7/17 and I put an order in(5pin XLR option). I'm crossing my fingers and really hoping it's worth it for the ANC, much lighter weight and slimmer profile. I've had the Bose A20 for the past 6yrs and although the ANC is superb and it's very comfortable, it gets heavy and the clamp force is noticeable after ~ 4/5hrs. I wouldn't ever go back to any other over-the-ear type but for the Airbus, I've been told the A20 is a little overkill, hence pulling the trigger on the ProFlight. STBY for a Pirep in a few days.

WHACKMASTER
07-23-2018, 09:17 AM
Just placed an order for the dual pin Proflight GA plug model for use in the B737. Itís on backorder with no update time available so who knows how long it will take. Until then I am thoroughly happy with the performance and comfort of the A20 that Iíve had for 4+ years, but will be selling it once the Pro Flite arrives.

It seems Iím like some guys with wives....feel the need to switch my headset every few years.

EMBFlyer
07-23-2018, 10:40 AM
I currently use the DC Pro-X in the 737. The on-ear gets a little old after a while. I ordered the ProFlight last week and it showed on backorder. I called Sporty's today and they said it's shipping out this afternoon. Won't be here in time for my next trip, but it should be here later in the week. I was contemplating switching it out for the A20, especially since Bose brought back their Oshkosh offer of a free bluetooth speaker with purchase. I'll see how the ProFlight does.

HeliHooker
07-23-2018, 02:49 PM
I placed my order directly from Bose on the 17th. It was delivered on Saturday. Have not had a chance to try it out yet but it sure seems flimsy. Not sure how it will hold up to the daily grind. Guess time will tell.

ItnStln
07-23-2018, 03:46 PM
Iím not sure if anyoneís seen these YouTube videos on the Bose Pro Flight, but I thought they were good.
https://youtu.be/dH7UY6kX1Vo
https://youtu.be/HOHhVh4frA4

WesternSkies
07-23-2018, 05:08 PM
That mic sounds like it sucks.

GuardPolice
07-23-2018, 05:11 PM
Iím sending mine back. The cord is shockingly heavy. Good for durability but if you donít have the means to secure it with the clips or donít fully unload the weight of the cord off the headset, it makes it unbalanced and uncomfortable. The cord also comes straight down from the microphone side so I found it touching the side of my face and neck. Maybe some wonít mind that but it was a nuisance and made it awkward turning my head and always running into the cord.

The ANR was solid for the 737 and the pass through feature is truly unique and beneficial.

All this said, I am one of the few users that went from a lighter headset (Clarity Aloft) to the Pro Flight. The added weight was noticeable and I find the in-ear plugs from the CA more comfortable than the Pro Flight ear tips. Also, the passive noise reduction is almost as good as the ANR on the Bose...with the added bonus of no batteries.

I know a lot of my complaints are subjective but I just wasnít sold on it.

Iíve got my eye on the Clarity Aloft Flex next.

jimchi
07-26-2018, 07:18 AM
Agreed, the head band doesnít fit right. Feels like itís about to slip off. Additionally, audio quality seems subpar to the QC20s, the Bose in ear ANR headphones. Sounds muted. Was hoping for the same or better quality.

EMBFlyer
07-26-2018, 04:08 PM
Mine arrived yesterday. I just got home from a trip today, so I got to play with it a little bit. It seems to fit my melon well. The noise cancelling seems good around the house and the tap-through feature is really cool. I go out again on Sunday, so I'll get to try them in the airplane.

AboveMins
07-27-2018, 04:45 PM
I pre-ordered a pair about a month ago, and they arrived before my last trip. I wasn't too terribly impressed with them. They feel awfully flimsy, none of the ear seals fit my correctly, really irritating my ear canals. Ended up bouncing around Asia for a week, hating this headset. I just shipped it back to Marv Golden today, and am going back to my A20s. They're a nice concept, but not for me... YMMV.

ugleeual
07-27-2018, 07:50 PM
Mine arrived yesterday. I just got home from a trip today, so I got to play with it a little bit. It seems to fit my melon well. The noise cancelling seems good around the house and the tap-through feature is really cool. I go out again on Sunday, so I'll get to try them in the airplane.

Interested to see how they work... and if the cable really is too heavy. You get a discount?

EMBFlyer
07-27-2018, 07:58 PM
Interested to see how they work... and if the cable really is too heavy. You get a discount?

I ordered from Sporty's so no discount. I didn't have to pay tax or shipping, so I think the discount from Bose would have equaled to what I paid at Sporty's.

I'll report back after my trip on Monday (traded from Sunday). We'll see if I keep them or if I switch to the A20s.

Fleet Warp
07-28-2018, 02:26 AM
I am curious, has anyone here made the switch from the Clarity Aloft to the Bose Proflight? Asking because us Clarity Aloft users are more used to this style of headset.

GuardPolice
07-28-2018, 03:58 AM
I am curious, has anyone here made the switch from the Clarity Aloft to the Bose Proflight? Asking because us Clarity Aloft users are more used to this style of headset.


I did so see my opinion of the Pro Flight a few posts up. After I decided to send the Pro Flight back, I ordered the Clarity Aloft Flex but havenít had a trip with it yet.

GuardPolice
07-28-2018, 04:00 AM
Interested to see how they work... and if the cable really is too heavy. You get a discount?


Let me expand on my heavy cable comments. In addition to the weight, itís not flexible enough. This is undoubtedly to make the cable last a very long time which I think it will. However, the trade off is the weight it can put on the headset if you are not able rig the cord the right way.

Again, just MHO.

Fleet Warp
07-28-2018, 04:21 AM
I did so see my opinion of the Pro Flight a few posts up. After I decided to send the Pro Flight back, I ordered the Clarity Aloft Flex but havenít had a trip with it yet.

Cheers! I see it now. Great review!
Very interested to hear your opinion of the flex!

EMBFlyer
07-30-2018, 08:13 AM
Flew an almost 3 hour leg with it today. Unfortunately, it's getting returned and an A20 with Bluetooth will be going in it's place. The sound quality is very good and the noise cancelling is surprisingly good for how it's supposed to work. However, I just can't quite get used to the ear tips. The biggest problem, though, is it squeezes my giant melon uncomfortably. I was developing a headache by the time we landed. The pressure points are just weird on it.

I really wanted to like it.

BrewCity
07-30-2018, 09:17 AM
Flew an almost 3 hour leg with it today. Unfortunately, it's getting returned and an A20 with Bluetooth will be going in it's place. The sound quality is very good and the noise cancelling is surprisingly good for how it's supposed to work. However, I just can't quite get used to the ear tips. The biggest problem, though, is it squeezes my giant melon uncomfortably. I was developing a headache by the time we landed. The pressure points are just weird on it.

I really wanted to like it.

I agree ... just tried on the headband and it was squeezing the hell out of my temples.

iflylow
07-30-2018, 05:34 PM
Iím glad Iím not the only one, had some serious hot spots at the end of a 5 hour flight on my temples. Plus my ears hurt also from the in ear earbuds. Wanted to like it as well but just not for me.

dawgdriver
07-30-2018, 05:59 PM
Just sent mine back too. Agree 100% with detractors. Flimsy, heavy chord, pressure points, ear discomfort. Back to A20s

EMBFlyer
07-30-2018, 06:59 PM
Iím glad Iím not the only one, had some serious hot spots at the end of a 5 hour flight on my temples. Plus my ears hurt also from the in ear earbuds. Wanted to like it as well but just not for me.

Yeah, I noticed my ears felt weird after the leg.

El Guapo
07-31-2018, 09:02 AM
Apparently Bose is not offering the discount on the pro flight to any airline

GuardPolice
07-31-2018, 11:41 AM
Apparently Bose is not offering the discount on the pro flight to any airline


Huh? They gave me one...then sent it back haha

ugleeual
07-31-2018, 12:05 PM
Apparently Bose is not offering the discount on the pro flight to any airline

They offer 15% for UAL

kansas
07-31-2018, 02:19 PM
Apparently Bose is not offering the discount on the pro flight to any airline

15% for DL

El Guapo
07-31-2018, 03:41 PM
Not anymore they donít. As of this week they are making an exception for the proflight and no more discounts are being offered. If anyone hears anything different please do tell.

dmbmarkt
07-31-2018, 06:55 PM
Anyone have any complaints on the tap through? I am going to talk to Bose about it tomorrow, but I fly an A320 and when I have the tap through going it sounds like I am in a hurricane in that ear. I have tried different sized tips, tried reseating it. It is amplifying noises that I don't want it to amplify, it makes it harder, not easier to hear the other guy, and it makes it harder for me to hear the radio. I am wondering if it's like this, or maybe mine's wonky?

WakeWash
07-31-2018, 07:05 PM
The more I read this, the more Iím thinking Clarity Aloft is the way. Who has used the new model and what did you think of it?

EMBFlyer
08-01-2018, 01:17 AM
Anyone have any complaints on the tap through? I am going to talk to Bose about it tomorrow, but I fly an A320 and when I have the tap through going it sounds like I am in a hurricane in that ear. I have tried different sized tips, tried reseating it. It is amplifying noises that I don't want it to amplify, it makes it harder, not easier to hear the other guy, and it makes it harder for me to hear the radio. I am wondering if it's like this, or maybe mine's wonky?

Yes, I noticed that, too. Useless in the 737.

Spicy McHaggis
08-01-2018, 07:41 AM
Disappointing to hear the initial aircrew reviews. I just switched over to the 320 and have a molded ear piece. I might just use that for a while and take a look at the clarity aloft. I like the idea of the DC Pro-X, but I'm sure they probably feel like vice grips after a while.

Fleet Warp
08-01-2018, 07:52 AM
I love the clarity aloft. I'm considering getting molded ear plugs even, just for hygiene and appearance of the waxy ear buds. But sound and comfort is great. The only con if you have no hair is you have to get used to the same ear pain that glass wearers deal with just from it hanging off your ears.

Spicy McHaggis
08-01-2018, 10:53 AM
I love the clarity aloft. I'm considering getting molded ear plugs even, just for hygiene and appearance of the waxy ear buds. But sound and comfort is great. The only con if you have no hair is you have to get used to the same ear pain that glass wearers deal with just from it hanging off your ears.




How do the CA work with glasses? Or donning the O2 max if you needed it.

GuardPolice
08-01-2018, 11:14 AM
How do the CA work with glasses? Or donning the O2 max if you needed it.


They work just fine with glasses. Arenít all headsets coming off before the O2 mask comes on?

GuardPolice
08-01-2018, 11:15 AM
I love the clarity aloft. I'm considering getting molded ear plugs even, just for hygiene and appearance of the waxy ear buds. But sound and comfort is great. The only con if you have no hair is you have to get used to the same ear pain that glass wearers deal with just from it hanging off your ears.


I start a 4 day trip with the Flex tomorrow. Iíll be sure to post my Ďreviewí in a few days.

Spicy McHaggis
08-01-2018, 11:16 AM
They work just fine with glasses. Arenít all headsets coming off before the O2 mask comes on?



I really meant do the glasses get tangled up with them at all, slowing down the process of getting the headset off before the mask goes on.

GuardPolice
08-01-2018, 11:21 AM
I really meant do the glasses get tangled up with them at all, slowing down the process of getting the headset off before the mask goes on.


Gotcha. I wear eyeglasses, too, sometimes and donít expect the headset to cause problems when quickly coming off if the mask is required.

Fleet Warp
08-01-2018, 11:48 AM
Don't have to remove this headset for quick don inflatable masks. Just throw glasses in the oh **** direction, and move the Mic aside before donning

flapsfail
08-02-2018, 12:01 PM
I love the clarity aloft. I'm considering getting molded ear plugs even, just for hygiene and appearance of the waxy ear buds. But sound and comfort is great. The only con if you have no hair is you have to get used to the same ear pain that glass wearers deal with just from it hanging off your ears.


Iíve thought about purchasing this headset and doing the same thing but they do not recommend a custom mold. Have you heard otherwise? The only thing I can figure out is that a custom mold wonít give you as much protection vs the ear plugs.

Iím very curious about the new headset and itís between the flex or the dc pro x.

Fleet Warp
08-02-2018, 01:46 PM
Iíve thought about purchasing this headset and doing the same thing but they do not recommend a custom mold. Have you heard otherwise? The only thing I can figure out is that a custom mold wonít give you as much protection vs the ear plugs.

Iím very curious about the new headset and itís between the flex or the dc pro x.

I'm not sure about that. TBH the plugs don't really bother me. But they do get a few snarky comments from Copilots every now and again. The waxy buildup is unavoidable.

USMCFDX
08-03-2018, 06:48 AM
I love the clarity aloft. I'm considering getting molded ear plugs even, just for hygiene and appearance of the waxy ear buds. But sound and comfort is great. The only con if you have no hair is you have to get used to the same ear pain that glass wearers deal with just from it hanging off your ears.

Check the website - warranty is voided if you get and use molded ear plugs.

LumberJack
08-03-2018, 05:45 PM
I agree ... just tried on the headband and it was squeezing the hell out of my temples.

Is the headband bendable?

When I used the old DC clamps I would bend them open and that relieved the pressure.

EMBFlyer
08-03-2018, 06:39 PM
Is the headband bendable?

When I used the old DC clamps I would bend them open and that relieved the pressure.

No. It's plastic and I'm pretty sure bending it would destroy the headset.

jhondoe
08-05-2018, 05:09 AM
I start a 4 day trip with the Flex tomorrow. Iíll be sure to post my Ďreviewí in a few days.

So how is the Flex?

GuardPolice
08-06-2018, 09:26 AM
So how is the Flex?


Find my posts in the Bose Pro Flight thread in the Delta sub forum.

ItnStln
08-06-2018, 04:59 PM
Does the ProFlight have the same ear pieces as the SoundSport wireless headphones?

FlyingNasaForm
08-06-2018, 05:46 PM
Does the ProFlight have the same ear pieces as the SoundSport wireless headphones?

Yes. The StayHear+ Sport tips.

HercDriver130
08-06-2018, 06:02 PM
Does the ProFlight have the same ear pieces as the SoundSport wireless headphones?

yes...

New ProFlight user. Three legs... 20 odd hours in the jet. Other than the ergonomics of the cord on my left side... I was happy with the rest of it. Sound was good... no pressure problems. just the cord on my neck.

ItnStln
08-06-2018, 06:03 PM
Yes. The StayHear+ Sport tips.

Thanks! I thought they would be the same.

MiLa
08-06-2018, 10:37 PM
yes...

New ProFlight user. Three legs... 20 odd hours in the jet. Other than the ergonomics of the cord on my left side... I was happy with the rest of it. Sound was good... no pressure problems. just the cord on my neck.

You can switch the side that the cord is on

worstpilotever
08-07-2018, 06:29 AM
Just flew a 4 day with the pro flight and I am not 100% convinced it is the right thing. I like a lot of aspects of it, the noise cancelling, lightness, Bluetooth to my phone if I were to listen to music which I would never do. It does put some pressure on my head above my ears, but I bent the headband slightly and it helped a little. I think I just need to get used it. I am going to give it another trip and see how it goes. One issue I had was when I was on the intercom there would be a significant hum on some planes. I think it was an airplane issue since it was different in different planes from almost non existent to unbearable. The capt also was using bose noise cxl headset, I think the a20.

I think slightly thicker pads above the ear would help. The cable is heavy, but on the bus it can be clipped up to alleviate that issue.

Bottom line, probably going to keep it but wish there were some things different about it.

MiLa
08-07-2018, 08:21 AM
Just flew a 4 day with the pro flight and I am not 100% convinced it is the right thing. I like a lot of aspects of it, the noise cancelling, lightness, Bluetooth to my phone if I were to listen to music which I would never do. It does put some pressure on my head above my ears, but I bent the headband slightly and it helped a little. I think I just need to get used it. I am going to give it another trip and see how it goes. One issue I had was when I was on the intercom there would be a significant hum on some planes. I think it was an airplane issue since it was different in different planes from almost non existent to unbearable. The capt also was using bose noise cxl headset, I think the a20.

I think slightly thicker pads above the ear would help. The cable is heavy, but on the bus it can be clipped up to alleviate that issue.

Bottom line, probably going to keep it but wish there were some things different about it.

I agree with the ear pads not being thick enough. I liked everything else about it but it feels like a clamp. Iím afraid to try bending it out because I donít want to break it

EMBFlyer
08-07-2018, 09:50 AM
I agree with the ear pads not being thick enough. I liked everything else about it but it feels like a clamp. Iím afraid to try bending it out because I donít want to break it

I also didn't want to try bending it, as the plastic looked like it would break.

worstpilotever
08-07-2018, 06:47 PM
Well I was able to bend mine just enough to take a little pressure off. If you do too much it wonít be secure on your noggin. If it breaks send the thing back and tell em itís defective.

Squallrider
08-08-2018, 05:35 AM
The experience varies dramatically with howcyou insert the ear tips, where you place the side pads on temples and which ear bud size you use. I got use to mine after having a medium ear bud on left and small on right and playing with where it sits on my head.



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