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paraglidingbum
04-18-2018, 10:45 AM
What sets apart a good crashpad from a GREAT crashpad?

Proximity to the airport?
Proximity to food/grocery store?
Cost?
Blackout curtains?
Kegerator?

What are the little details that you wish your pad would incorporate?

What helps to maximize QOL for commuters?


Riverside
04-18-2018, 11:40 AM
Not having a crashpad and driving to work.

rickair7777
04-18-2018, 11:45 AM
Quiet sleeping rooms, distant or insulated from kitchen/living areas.

Room to move around in a dark sleep room without tripping over things/people.

Clean bathrooms which are readily available. May need a schedule.

Pilots only, or pilots and senior FA's only.

Proximity (walking) to food at odd hours.

Access to transportation (Uber drivers don't like short trips to airports).

Evict inconsiderate tools.


Sparty
04-18-2018, 11:45 AM
People who clean up after themselves, which is rare. Oh, and bathrooms that arenít littered with pubes.

Al Czervik
04-18-2018, 12:13 PM
People who clean up after themselves, which is rare. Oh, and bathrooms that aren’t littered with pubes.

This. Good people=good pad. Pilots only. Period.

worstpilotever
04-18-2018, 12:48 PM
Hot FAs that walk around with no clothes on.

TheRaven
04-18-2018, 03:31 PM
I lasted 3 nights in a coed pad with pilots and FAs.....ate the months rent and moved to a much older, less modern pilot only pad with fewer amenities......best decision ever.

sled14
04-18-2018, 04:52 PM
I've been lucky, only have had one for 1 month in 7 years, but I liked it because there were only 2 beds in the room I was in, and they were separated by a curtain. It cost a little more but for me was definitely worth it. Can't imagine staying in a bunk bed with several other people, especially being a light sleeper.

freezingflyboy
04-18-2018, 05:08 PM
People who clean up after themselves, which is rare. Oh, and bathrooms that arenít littered with pubes.

Agreed 100%. I kept one pad for a year plus. First 8 months was great. Decent pad with bi-weekly cleaning service, convenient to airport and mass transit, food options, grocery store, bars, a gym, parks, etc nearby. And a great group of guys (all pilots) who looked out for each other, cleaned up after themsevles and took care of the place. You know, generally acted like professionals and adults.

About 6 months in, the turnover started happening and it went downhill FAST! Same pad, different people and I went from not minding a 5-6 day stint of reserve purgatory to dreading to set foot in the pad for fear of what tool bag of the week might be floating around or what mountain of trash or unwashed dishes might await.

Removing occupants from the equation (since that is largely luck of the draw), your planned usage will probably have a lot to do with what's important to you. Planning to be on reserve and spending lots of time at the pad on short call? Then I'd say amenities like fast wifi or good cable, having food/grocery store options and stuff to do around would be most important. Only planning to be there a couple nights a month for early show times or late releases? Then I'd say convenient transit and a quiet, hassle free environment is the priority.

NoDeskJob
04-18-2018, 06:12 PM
For me, itís a private room.

Had one pad with an obese FO. He snored sooooo loud I could barely sleep.
Next pad just paid extra for my own room. Totally worth it for me

Qotsaautopilot
04-18-2018, 06:42 PM
Daily housekeeping. No FAs. Provided transportation. No living there or leaving personal items. Pack it in and pack it out.

BigDukeSix
04-18-2018, 07:51 PM
A van under a bridge by the river!

RemoveB4flght
04-18-2018, 08:26 PM
never shared a crash pad with FA's back in the day... what makes them so horrible?

TiredSoul
04-19-2018, 01:28 AM
never shared a crash pad with FA's back in the day... what makes them so horrible?

Junior FAís can be pretty entitled psychotic witches.
I spend a year in a co-ed Crashpad, some were cool, most were not.
Eventually the manager appointed me Crashpad Police in order to clean up a Ďtroublesomeí pad.
Youíve got some 23 year old with a drinking problem on her first real job in life thinking itís her party-pad.
And has five (5!) roller bags of clothes.
Not the little ones either, Iím talking the 27Ē-30Ē full size ones.
I was pretty universally hated but who cares. Iím not going to let my living ( hygiene) standards be determined by a 23 year old drunk.
Had another one who thought it was perfectly ok to start cooking/frying at 1-2am......WTF is wrong with you?!

Crashpads reqs:
- some shade of privacy
- storage space
- decent size bathroom with real man size shower
- somebody who is in charge to enforce the rules
- coed is fine as long as you bounce the drama lamaís to the curb at the first sign of trouble.

ZeroTT
04-19-2018, 05:47 AM
never shared a crash pad with FA's back in the day... what makes them so horrible?

Mostly just young - take a bunch of girls from Paducah, KY and Toms River, NJ who graduated from high school and community college wasn't for them and their boyfriend just went to jail so they decided to go see the world on Regional Air Express. Oh and they're making $12/day.

disco inferno
04-19-2018, 06:50 AM
Hot FAs that walk around with no clothes on.




Or is that the trumpsters definition?
I think that would be every heterosexual males definition.

jcountry
04-19-2018, 07:00 AM
Best crash pad is your own hotel room.

Avoid the drama, save yourself some trouble.

They arenít all horrible, but Iím not interested in doing a pad again. I was at pilots only places, and that probably helps. But overall, itís not a desirable situation. Lots of noise with people coming in at all hours and snoring, etc. Had one complete psycho in first pad. Male flight attendant, long story.... But I do know if I ever wind up flying with that guy, some damned body else is coming up for any pee breaks.

On short call, I was only looking at not being used three or four days per month. A hotel would have been cheaper and less hassle.

rightside02
04-19-2018, 07:56 AM
Many things already mentioned are great ideas . I will chime in and add ..


Great guys via recommendation only . Makes a big difference imo. And location location location . Also a snore room setup for the fellas that snore . They know who they are. Let them fatigue themselves out of a medical. Don't do it to me .

PowderFinger
04-19-2018, 08:30 AM
This. Good people=good pad. Pilots only. Period.

Not necessarily... After an extended period of vacancies we went down to the local junior college and advertised for a couple of co-eds... Made for a lot of fun but that was years ago. #b4metoo :D

PowderFinger
04-19-2018, 08:34 AM
Mostly just young - take a bunch of girls from Paducah, KY and Toms River, NJ who graduated from high school and community college wasn't for them and their boyfriend just went to jail so they decided to go see the world on Regional Air Express. Oh and they're making $12/day.

That's skilled labor and a high wage for Kentucky... Skilled labor for NJ.

echelon
04-19-2018, 10:27 AM
never shared a crash pad with FA's back in the day... what makes them so horrible?

They leave hair and tampon wrappers and other bullsh!t all over the bathrooms, they're loud, they make no money so they tend to live there in lieu of paying for a permanent residence as well, and the fact that they make no money probably also has a lot to do with how much food goes "missing" when they're around. They're young, typically immature, and tend to treat the place like a sorority house or a hostel, at best. They aren't used to being under the professional scrutiny of a competitive industry like pilots are and as such, lack the decorum with which most (not all) pilots have learned to conduct themselves. It's an unskilled job that requires no education, which in itself places it in stark contrast to the lucrative career for which we have all sacrificed a lot in various ways and around which we have centered our lives and focus for decades. So in other words, we have almost nothing in common.

TiredSoul
04-21-2018, 02:13 PM
But yet theyíre instantly the most important beaaach on Instagram.

Dolphinflyer
04-21-2018, 06:40 PM
They leave hair and tampon wrappers and other bullsh!t all over the bathrooms, they're loud, they make no money so they tend to live there in lieu of paying for a permanent residence as well, and the fact that they make no money probably also has a lot to do with how much food goes "missing" when they're around. They're young, typically immature, and tend to treat the place like a sorority house or a hostel, at best. They aren't used to being under the professional scrutiny of a competitive industry like pilots are and as such, lack the decorum with which most (not all) pilots have learned to conduct themselves. It's an unskilled job that requires no education, which in itself places it in stark contrast to the lucrative career for which we have all sacrificed a lot in various ways and around which we have centered our lives and focus for decades. So in other words, we have almost nothing in common.

A literary masterpiece, well played.

Only thing you left out was a statement that you no doubt heard from one of them, " If I knew pilot new hire training was only two weeks longer, I would have applied for that".

That is a no chit statement that our class hear years ago.

Dolphinflyer
04-21-2018, 06:45 PM
What makes a great crashpad?


I'll add, not having a J.O. roommate who walks around the apt with the TV remote in his jammies with some Springer/Judge Judy crap on.

It was balanced by the humor of listening to his idiot endless cellphone conversations with his idiot wife and idiot teenage kid as he tried to solve their idiot F.U.'s from 1000 miles away. Even better was this was when the cell minutes he burned cost $400-$500/month in 1990 dollars.

Do the math.

2old2fly
04-25-2018, 05:23 AM
I ran one for years. Male pilots only, everyone had there own bed, dresser drawer, and closet space so you could keep stuff there. Close to public transportation, food, and the beach. We had very low turnover.

Lou Turk
04-25-2018, 06:39 AM
Roomates with no sleep apnea issues. I was in a crash pad that was like living in a sleep disorder clinic.

Packrat
04-25-2018, 12:32 PM
Great crash pad? NO ROOMMATES.

TiredSoul
04-25-2018, 01:58 PM
Roomates with no sleep apnea issues. I was in a crash pad that was like living in a sleep disorder clinic.

Ok that had me laughing :D

Al Czervik
04-25-2018, 04:07 PM
Roomates with no sleep apnea issues. I was in a crash pad that was like living in a sleep disorder clinic.

Nice screen name. I can guess where your pad is located.

mainlineAF
04-25-2018, 05:26 PM
Roomates with no sleep apnea issues. I was in a crash pad that was like living in a sleep disorder clinic.



Iíve given you lots of my money, Mr. Turk.

EMBFlyer
04-25-2018, 06:37 PM
Nice screen name. I can guess where your pad is located.

Me, too!!!

EMBFlyer
04-25-2018, 06:38 PM
Iíve given you lots of my money, Mr. Turk.

Dude! Seriously? I'm a firm believer of "there are things you cannot unsee"!

Lou Turk
04-25-2018, 08:06 PM
Iíve given you lots of my money, Mr. Turk.

And in doing so, you helped put the next generation of doctors and lawyers through school!

Lou Turk
04-25-2018, 08:19 PM
Nice screen name. I can guess where your pad is located.

Tinicum Township would be the logical guess, but alas, no. Had enough layovers there in a previous life that going to Turkís just became second nature.

Aviatormar
04-26-2018, 09:57 AM
Tinicum Township would be the logical guess, but alas, no. Had enough layovers there in a previous life that going to Turkís just became second nature.

I owned a pad there. Those where the days.

AC560
04-29-2018, 12:36 PM
Four pages and it hasnít been said, hookers and blow.

OOfff
04-29-2018, 01:02 PM
A literary masterpiece, well played.

Only thing you left out was a statement that you no doubt heard from one of them, " If I knew pilot new hire training was only two weeks longer, I would have applied for that".

That is a no chit statement that our class hear years ago.

You realize that comment is a joke, right? Like the story of the passenger who says ďwe donít talk to the help,Ē itís all an urban legend, and every airline supposedly has that FA on property

TiredSoul
05-05-2018, 06:05 AM
never shared a crash pad with FA's back in the day... what makes them so horrible?

Well....if this is how some show up for work imagine their behavior in a Crashpad...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-apologizes-concerning-incident-flight-attendant-trans-states-airlines-flight-4689/

prex8390
05-05-2018, 06:27 AM
No junior flight attendants and commuters only. Had a few JetBlue flight attendants once that basically lived in the place and would just drink all night and make noise. Go home if itís your off day. Having a bunch of hot girls around sounds awesome until you realize how catty they all are, or they think they are all besties with each other after knowing them the 6 weeks in ground school and then find out they hate each when they all get crashpads together and have to share space since most of them are usually a year or two out of high school and Just broke up with their boyfriend.

Han Solo
05-08-2018, 05:59 AM
Four pages and it hasnít been said, hookers and blow.

The FAA doesn't test for hookers, so I'd leave blow off the list.

Lou Turk
05-09-2018, 09:09 AM
Good crashed roommates also don't need to be told that self-gratification in the common spaces is not cool.

SpeedyVagabond
05-09-2018, 11:11 AM
Good crashed roommates also don't need to be told that self-gratification in the common spaces is not cool.

Well now that depends. :p

fadec
05-12-2018, 12:06 PM
There's a place in one of the Newark bathrooms where I crawl into the rafters above the ceiling tiles. I taped together some 737 seat cushions from my fleet. The light fixture actually has an outlet already installed on the backside so I can charge my iPad. It's pretty nice, a lot like the guestroom I installed under my trailer.

badflaps
05-12-2018, 02:15 PM
There's a place in one of the Newark bathrooms where I crawl into the rafters above the ceiling tiles. I taped together some 737 seat cushions from my fleet. The light fixture actually has an outlet already installed on the backside so I can charge my iPad. It's pretty nice, a lot like the guestroom I installed under my trailer.

Funny you should mention it. It is on Newark MLS for $750. a month.

OOfff
05-13-2018, 02:35 PM
Well....if this is how some show up for work imagine their behavior in a Crashpad...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-apologizes-concerning-incident-flight-attendant-trans-states-airlines-flight-4689/

Good thing pilots never act poorly



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