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Excargodog
04-24-2018, 10:23 AM
Just so one can remember their roots:

Business | An Airline Divided -- Horizon Air Is No Longer Tiny, And It's No Longer One Big, Happy Family, Either | Seattle Times Newspaper (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19990927&slug=2985513)


Vanilla
04-24-2018, 11:48 AM
Just so one can remember their roots:

Business | An Airline Divided -- Horizon Air Is No Longer Tiny, And It's No Longer One Big, Happy Family, Either | Seattle Times Newspaper (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19990927&slug=2985513)

Digging up articles from nearly 20 years ago. Different times, dude. For someone that doesn't fly at Horizon, you sure have a lot to say. You must be a real hoot to fly with.

word302
04-24-2018, 12:25 PM
Digging up articles from nearly 20 years ago. Different times, dude. For someone that doesn't fly at Horizon, you sure have a lot to say. You must be a real hoot to fly with.

I'm not so sure he's even a pilot.


Excargodog
04-24-2018, 01:13 PM
Digging up articles from nearly 20 years ago. Different times, dude. For someone that doesn't fly at Horizon, you sure have a lot to say. You must be a real hoot to fly with.

Wow, a little testy, aren't we? I understand it was different times, that was sort of what "A blast from the past" implied.

And actually, I Didn't say much of anything about it, simply posted an URL to a nearly twenty year old article in the Seattle Times business pages.

Obviously history wasn't one of your major interests in school. Perhaps you have heard of this quote:

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes. Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it. Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them."
- George Santayana



But please, feel free to not read any of my postings you don't care to read. You too Word302.

Glenntilton
04-24-2018, 01:32 PM
Was on Horizon with a bunch of military pilots going to survival training in Spokane. We probably would have been arrested nowadays for the food fight we caused. The Horizon Captain took pictures with us after we landed.

Excargodog
04-24-2018, 02:37 PM
Was on Horizon with a bunch of military pilots going to survival training in Spokane. We probably would have been arrested nowadays for the food fight we caused. The Horizon Captain took pictures with us after we landed.

Ah yes. 3636 Combat Crew Training Wing. I knew something was wrong when the SRO in the class was a mere 1Lt, with only a few more months in than I had. More senior people knew better than to go through in January. Froze my butt off up in the training area by the Canadian border. Good times. But only in retrospect.

tomgoodman
04-24-2018, 02:56 PM
Ah yes. 3636 Combat Crew Training Wing. I knew something was wrong when the SRO in the class was a mere 1Lt, with only a few more months in than I had. More senior people knew better than to go through in January. Froze my butt off up in the training area by the Canadian border. Good times. But only in retrospect.

Yes, let Bai-Khans be Bai-Khans. ;)

Excargodog
04-24-2018, 03:04 PM
Yes, let Bai-Khans be Bai-Khans. ;)


Indeed. And small boxes full of wooden blocks to make them smaller..:D:D

BigfatQ
04-24-2018, 07:25 PM
I thought that was an interesting read and a surprisingly long article. I don't think excargodog was implying anything. It was interesting to read about how we got a union and how pilots used to be salaried and how pilots avoided crew scheduling in times of landline phones

Dashdrvr
04-24-2018, 08:33 PM
Just so one can remember their roots:

Business | An Airline Divided -- Horizon Air Is No Longer Tiny, And It's No Longer One Big, Happy Family, Either | Seattle Times Newspaper (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19990927&slug=2985513)

Thanks for finding that. I'm guessing most that are planning being here a couple years probably will ignore. I would recommend if one is going to stay 5+ years its an accurate representation of QX history and worth a read.

DashAviator
04-25-2018, 04:54 AM
Unfortunately, Alaska management's attitude toward unions hasn't changed much in the last twenty years. I've been here to witness two decades of contract violations, negotiating in bad faith, union-busting tactics, and stalling during contract negotiations. Not to mention management targeting certain pilots (say, union volunteers).

Even if you plan to be here "only" two or three years, please get involved and help make this a better place to work. I'm getting close to retirement. A lot of people have helped me in my career - time to "pay it forward"!. Working for better pay and benefits helps everyone.

DjHubberts
04-26-2018, 03:32 PM
Your Union is only as good as the volunteers that give up their time to make every pilot’s life better. If you’re not involved with it, then you have not earned the right to complain about it.