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Floy
05-06-2018, 10:29 PM
I've searched extensively and haven't found anything on this although my search abilities might be limited.

Does anyone have any insight into the Cathay operation in Europe? Freighter only? Anyone getting hired to go over there as opposed to Hong kong? Does one need a European ATPL or can you manage it with an FAA ATP?

Also any insight into what the life is like. What kind of schedules, pay etc. I've read alot about the culture being bad. Still the case?

The wife is German and we're moving. I'm a quite senior regional Captain/SIM instructor in the USA considering possible options to fly in Europe. Great gig currently in the US and I can commute to work our SIM for 10 days in a row once per month so it would have to be a good deal to leave what I've got.

Thanks


SactisbonesBJ
05-07-2018, 06:47 AM
I'm a quite senior regional Captain

Aww bless...

PotatoChip
05-07-2018, 07:07 AM
I've searched extensively and haven't found anything on this although my search abilities might be limited.

Does anyone have any insight into the Cathay operation in Europe? Freighter only? Anyone getting hired to go over there as opposed to Hong kong? Does one need a European ATPL or can you manage it with an FAA ATP?

Also any insight into what the life is like. What kind of schedules, pay etc. I've read alot about the culture being bad. Still the case?

The wife is German and we're moving. I'm a quite senior regional Captain/SIM instructor in the USA considering possible options to fly in Europe. Great gig currently in the US and I can commute to work our SIM for 10 days in a row once per month so it would have to be a good deal to leave what I've got.

Thanks

No one is getting hired into any base outside of HK and conditions and morale continue to sink. Have a few friends who have all recently left. One went to SWA, he will make more on 2nd year FO pay than he did at 14 years at Cathay.

If Germany is what you really want push hard for FedEx, they still hire into their CGN base. CargoLux is hiring, but they require EASA and a 747 type and time.


NEDude
05-07-2018, 08:43 AM
No one is getting hired into any base outside of HK and conditions and morale continue to sink. Have a few friends who have all recently left. One went to SWA, he will make more on 2nd year FO pay than he did at 14 years at Cathay.

If Germany is what you really want push hard for FedEx, they still hire into their CGN base. CargoLux is hiring, but they require EASA and a 747 type and time.

Cargolux does not require a 747 type or time:

QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE

EASA Part FCL ATPL or CPL/IR with ATPL theory (Frozen ATPL)
EASA Part Med Class 1 Medical
Minimum 2000 hours total flying time including :
A minimum of 1500 hours on multi-pilot turbo-jet aeroplane certificated to the standards of CS-25/FAR-25 or equivalent
Or
A minimum of 1500 hours on a multi-pilot turbo-prop aeroplane having a maximum certificated take-off mass of not less than 10000 kg or a certificated passenger seating configuration of more than 19 passengers
Preference will be given to candidates type-rated on B747-400, B777 or B787

Our Requirements - Cargolux (http://www.cargolux.com/careers/jobs-in-the-air/our-requirements)

Floy
05-07-2018, 10:11 AM
Thanks guys. Not sure if I want to convert the ATP but looking at possibilities. Fly safe

PotatoChip
05-07-2018, 10:14 AM
Cargolux does not require a 747 type or time:

QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE

EASA Part FCL ATPL or CPL/IR with ATPL theory (Frozen ATPL)
EASA Part Med Class 1 Medical
Minimum 2000 hours total flying time including :
A minimum of 1500 hours on multi-pilot turbo-jet aeroplane certificated to the standards of CS-25/FAR-25 or equivalent
Or
A minimum of 1500 hours on a multi-pilot turbo-prop aeroplane having a maximum certificated take-off mass of not less than 10000 kg or a certificated passenger seating configuration of more than 19 passengers
Preference will be given to candidates type-rated on B747-400, B777 or B787



Our Requirements - Cargolux (http://www.cargolux.com/careers/jobs-in-the-air/our-requirements)

Sorry.
According to a current contractor hiring on their behalf they do.
https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/1401481607/cargolux-b747-400-first-officer-permanent-position-/?TrackID=443273&utm_source=jbe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DateUnknown&BatchID=2311#sc=jbe&me=email&cm=2018-05-05

Denti
05-07-2018, 10:35 AM
You can always go through a contractor, who wants to earn something as well, or directly via Cargolux. In that process you even get the typerating if you don't have it.

Couple of friends just got hired by them over the winter, no typerating needed at all. The company of course did provide the rating.

VanDriver208
05-11-2018, 05:35 PM
Im not sure if this is true, but I've heard that Atlas will allow pilots to be based in Europe. They are over there quite a lot, especially in Germany. Any Atlas guys care to chime in on that?



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