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Brokeasspot
05-10-2018, 02:33 PM
Anyone ever had a HIMS program decision reversed? Need some legal advice or someone to speak to


Excargodog
05-10-2018, 08:36 PM
Second verse, same as the first.....


https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/pilot-health/113234-substance-abuse.html#post2580352

sailingfun
05-11-2018, 03:34 AM
Anyone ever had a HIMS program decision reversed? Need some legal advice or someone to speak to

If you need legal advice hire the best attorney in this field you can find. Since you admit alcohol caused a incident in your life I suspect you will have a uphill battle. Might be best career wise to just embrace the HIMS program.


Excargodog
05-11-2018, 07:00 AM
Anyone ever had a HIMS program decision reversed? Need some legal advice or someone to speak to

You want it straight up? Or sugar coated?

Quit with the denial. If your use of alcohol wasn't a problem you would have never gotten in this situation. There is no constitutional right to fly an aircraft for hire with the lives of all the pax and other members of the crew in your hands. It is a privilege, not an entitlement.

If you are not willing to comply fully with the HIMS program, including in all likelihood not having another drink of alcohol until your 65th birthday, you would do well to look for different employment.

And that WAS the sugar-coated version.

JestersDead
05-16-2018, 01:57 PM
How in depth does a potential employer dig into the back round check of
your medical history. Obviously if one were to have a DUI, that is a given that they would know. I'm not trying to hide anything to a potential employer but I don't want to give them too much information at the same time. I want to find a balance.

Seven years ago I had a non flying accident that resulted in a total joint replacement. When I submitted my paper work for the medical six months following major surgery, it got sent back with a letter from the FAA. Long story short, they wanted my medical back and with the advice from a lawyer, the problem was resolved 11 months later resulting in a special issuance. No where in my medical records was it stated that my medical was denied. But, the gut wrenching letters are on file. Again, will an employer see those letters?

rickair7777
05-16-2018, 03:13 PM
How in depth does a potential employer dig into the back round check of
your medical history. Obviously if one were to have a DUI, that is a given that they would know. I'm not trying to hide anything to a potential employer but I don't want to give them too much information at the same time. I want to find a balance.

Seven years ago I had a non flying accident that resulted in a total joint replacement. When I submitted my paper work for the medical six months following major surgery, it got sent back with a letter from the FAA. Long story short, they wanted my medical back and with the advice from a lawyer, the problem was resolved 11 months later resulting in a special issuance. No where in my medical records was it stated that my medical was denied. But, the gut wrenching letters are on file. Again, will an employer see those letters?

US airlines will not dig into your medical records at all anymore.

Today most just want to see a valid 1C.

Worst case, to my knowledge, a couple of the legacies will do an in-house medical exam just to verify that you meet 1C standards. If you have to do one of those, brings your docs from the FAA, all you should have to do is show them the final resolution.

JestersDead
05-17-2018, 03:45 AM
US airlines will not dig into your medical records at all anymore.

Today most just want to see a valid 1C.

Worst case, to my knowledge, a couple of the legacies will do an in-house medical exam just to verify that you meet 1C standards. If you have to do one of those, brings your docs from the FAA, all you should have to do is show them the final resolution.


Thank you sir for your input.



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