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Beech Dude
06-06-2018, 07:17 PM
Does being current only matter when publishing your apps/hopefully getting calls? Do companies still desire you to be current when starting class if you get hired?


John Carr
06-06-2018, 07:41 PM
Well, it depends........

Seems here, and other places some guys have posted about getting on at UAL with less than the currency requirement, BUT IT'S NOT THE NORM.

And it seems the common thread of that very small minority had a crap ton of boxes checked. IP/EP/NATOPS/StandEval/Safety/high level staff/managerial positions and anything else you can think of.

Outside the CPP, UAL has hired less than 10 college degree pilots. I venture to guess the number of non current pilots probably isn't too far past that.

I'm sure SOMEONE is gonna post "well I knew a guy that hadn't flown in years and got hired at (insert airline here)".

GREAT! That's good, for THAT GUY. You can bet every other guy in his new hire class WAS current.

Beech Dude
06-06-2018, 08:03 PM
Well, it depends........

Seems here, and other places some guys have posted about getting on at UAL with less than the currency requirement, BUT IT'S NOT THE NORM.

And it seems the common thread of that very small minority had a crap ton of boxes checked. IP/EP/NATOPS/StandEval/Safety/high level staff/managerial positions and anything else you can think of.

Outside the CPP, UAL has hired less than 10 college degree pilots. I venture to guess the number of non current pilots probably isn't too far past that.

I'm sure SOMEONE is gonna post "well I knew a guy that hadn't flown in years and got hired at (insert airline here)".

GREAT! That's good, for THAT GUY. You can bet every other guy in his new hire class WAS current.

Ok. My deal is I'm looking at a 365, but flying a different airframe. I'll only have 6 or 7 months left prior to separating when I get back and don't know if I'll get requal'd in my current airframe since I'll be on my way out. So those last 6 months while I'm working to get hired I'll be current, but might not be when I start indoc at company X. Ill have no issue with rhe 100 hrs in the last year Ive seen guys mention and Ill turn a prop in a 172 to keep current if thay helps. Just worried this might be a negative during the interview process. I appreciate your help.


John Carr
06-06-2018, 08:09 PM
So those last 6 months while I'm working to get hired I'll be current, but might not be when I start indoc at company X. Just worried this might be a negative during the interview process. I appreciate your help.

Others could probably relate/share a better idea, but I don't think being current on day 1 of indoc is a concern.

Keep this in mind;

Again, it's JUST UAL, but some of the guys that started class THIS YEAR got the CJO 8-10 BEFORE class started. I don't think they would have been told to not show up if they weren't current in some fashion.

A couple years ago, DAL was having a 4-6 month wait between CJO and indoc, I wouldn't doubt it was the same for them. AA had a similar situation as well.

Beech Dude
06-06-2018, 08:12 PM
Others could probably relate/share a better idea, but I don't think being current on day 1of indoc is a concern.

Keep this in mind;

Again, it's JUST UAL, but some of the guys that started class THIS YEAR got the CJO 8-10 BEFORE class started. I don't think they would have been told to not show up if they weren't current in some fashion.

Rog. Thanks for the insight. Yeah, I'll turn a prop in a 172 to keep current if that helps.

John Carr
06-06-2018, 08:16 PM
Rog. Thanks for the incite. Yeah, I'll turn a prop in a 172 to keep current if that helps.

That's been discussed a lot.

I'm sure Albie/ECIC, CenterlinePrep, AeroCrew, and the others may have a better idea of what exactly meets that "requirement" for currency. If it's even an issue for you.

Han Solo
06-07-2018, 06:04 AM
You should get some time off in the middle of your 365, can you work a sweetheart deal with your squadron to get 1 flight (or even a sim?) during that time to update currency? Certainly don't want to work during that valuable home time but the update to currency could keep you flying for those last 6-7 months of pain. I was in a somewhat similar situation and my OG agreed to fly me once when I came home on my break to avoid a TX on the back side. It never happened since I ended up getting an assignment instead of the 365 but the agreement was in place. I think there might be a technical issue of flying while on leave, can't remember the exact details.

rickair7777
06-07-2018, 06:46 AM
That's been discussed a lot.

I'm sure Albie/ECIC, CenterlinePrep, AeroCrew, and the others may have a better idea of what exactly meets that "requirement" for currency. If it's even an issue for you.

If they require FAA legal currency when you show for class, cessna time will suffice.

If the issue is "recency" on applications, ie 100 in 12 months or 200 in 24 months or whatever, then it is much better to get that time in a turbine aircraft, but they will probably be understanding of a military guy especially if you had some turbine recency and topped it off with some piston ASEL.

Gordie H
06-07-2018, 10:55 AM
I had similar concerns when I retired from the AF in 2015. I was actively flying until the end of my service but then stopped flying altogether. A few months after retirement I interviewed with JetBlue, was offered a job and was put in the pool (a several month wait back then). Anyway I barely had over a 100hrs of 12 month look back when I interviewed and I knew I’d have much less than 100 hrs by the time I would start class.

So I wondered if I needed to be “current” for class or if that would be an issue but the short answer was no. They only cared / counted what I had the day I interviewed. After I was offered the job I called our pool POC and discussed with him and he told me not to worry about it. Not sure about other carriers.....

Good luck on the 365!!

Hossharris
06-07-2018, 12:17 PM
Have Recency for the interview (100/12, whatever your airline of choice requests).

Once you have the cjo, recency is no longer an issue. Sit back and relax and wait for a class

Beech Dude
06-07-2018, 05:49 PM
You should get some time off in the middle of your 365, can you work a sweetheart deal with your squadron to get 1 flight (or even a sim?) during that time to update currency? Certainly don't want to work during that valuable home time but the update to currency could keep you flying for those last 6-7 months of pain. I was in a somewhat similar situation and my OG agreed to fly me once when I came home on my break to avoid a TX on the back side. It never happened since I ended up getting an assignment instead of the 365 but the agreement was in place. I think there might be a technical issue of flying while on leave, can't remember the exact details.

I'll be flying during my 365 so it won't be an issue at my mid tour R&R. But manning sucks, so I'm sure they're gonna need me back as an IP/EP anyway. Thanks for the back up though.

Beech Dude
06-07-2018, 05:56 PM
If they require FAA legal currency when you show for class, cessna time will suffice.

If the issue is "recency" on applications, ie 100 in 12 months or 200 in 24 months or whatever, then it is much better to get that time in a turbine aircraft, but they will probably be understanding of a military guy especially if you had some turbine recency and topped it off with some piston ASEL.

Thanks rickair. Yeah I'll have no recency issue as I'll still be racking up turbine IP/PIC per my deployed gig. Glad to hear that if I can do the GA thing to suffice the FAA legalities.

Beech Dude
06-07-2018, 05:58 PM
I had similar concerns when I retired from the AF in 2015. I was actively flying until the end of my service but then stopped flying altogether. A few months after retirement I interviewed with JetBlue, was offered a job and was put in the pool (a several month wait back then). Anyway I barely had over a 100hrs of 12 month look back when I interviewed and I knew I’d have much less than 100 hrs by the time I would start class.

So I wondered if I needed to be “current” for class or if that would be an issue but the short answer was no. They only cared / counted what I had the day I interviewed. After I was offered the job I called our pool POC and discussed with him and he told me not to worry about it. Not sure about other carriers.....

Good luck on the 365!!

Thanks for the guidance. Yeah the.info you guys are giving me and after talking to a few bros at DAL, I think I'll be OK.

Beech Dude
06-07-2018, 06:00 PM
Have Recency for the interview (100/12, whatever your airline of choice requests).

Once you have the cjo, recency is no longer an issue. Sit back and relax and wait for a class

Thanks Hoss. You guys have helped put my mind at ease.

dmeg13021
06-08-2018, 02:00 PM
Fly safe, we'll see you when you get back

sailingfun
06-09-2018, 07:21 AM
Thanks rickair. Yeah I'll have no recency issue as I'll still be racking up turbine IP/PIC per my deployed gig. Glad to hear that if I can do the GA thing to suffice the FAA legalities.

All your currency legalities will be met by your initial training at the airline. One you have a job offer currency is a non issue.

Beech Dude
07-07-2018, 07:25 PM
Fly safe, we'll see you when you get back

Thanks man!

Beech Dude
07-07-2018, 07:26 PM
All your currency legalities will be met by your initial training at the airline. One you have a job offer currency is a non issue.

Rog. Thanks sailingfun. I appreciate the help.



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