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RetroABC
07-20-2018, 02:48 PM
How far back does the pilot background check for Republic go? Will a dui from 7-8 years ago make them rescind the offer they gave me?


Otterbox
07-20-2018, 02:53 PM
How far back does the pilot background check for Republic go? Will a dui from 7-8 years ago make them rescind the offer they gave me?

Not if you disclosed it when you applied...

Geardownflaps30
07-20-2018, 03:21 PM
How far back does the pilot background check for Republic go? Will a dui from 7-8 years ago make them rescind the offer they gave me?

Good gawd. Always always disclose these things. You donít want to be THAT guy That gets pulled out of Indoc and sent home. You canít hide that stuff.


Excargodog
07-20-2018, 04:03 PM
How far back does the pilot background check for Republic go? Will a dui from 7-8 years ago make them rescind the offer they gave me?




1. If they asked you and you told them about it, they'd probably accept a seven year old DUI if there has been nothing since.



2. If they asked and you didn't reveal it, they'll never forgive you for trying to sneak it by them. And then you get to decide whether you admit what you did to the other regionals or try to sneak lying to Republic past them as well.



So basically, if it's the situation in paragraph 2 you've likely screwed yourself....

Av8r75
07-20-2018, 04:48 PM
Yeah...no way to hide from something like that...always better to be upfront about it from the beginning. Most states keep DUI on your record for 10 years some states it's longer like Florida is 75 years and Tennessee is on your record for life!

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RetroABC
07-20-2018, 05:53 PM
Not if you disclosed it when you applied...

They haven't asked yet...

RetroABC
07-20-2018, 05:56 PM
1. If they asked you and you told them about it, they'd probably accept a seven year old DUI if there has been nothing since.



2. If they asked and you didn't reveal it, they'll never forgive you for trying to sneak it by them. And then you get to decide whether you admit what you did to the other regionals or try to sneak lying to Republic past them as well.



So basically, if it's the situation in paragraph 2 you've likely screwed yourself....

Thanks man. Planned on talking to them next week.

RetroABC
07-20-2018, 05:59 PM
Not trying to hide anything. I didn't offer it up, because they didn't ask. I've read they do their background checks during training... There's no way in hell I'm going to gettes pulled out of training to get fired from my new job and not having my old job. Aside from the fact that I truly believe honesty is the only way to go. I was really asking to get a feel for how hard I have to brace myself for the follow up next week.

lavService
07-20-2018, 07:23 PM
Every airline has pilots with DUI's. It's not a show stopper. Being it was 7-8 ago it'll show up when they pull your NDR. If you weren't required to report it on your application and weren't asked about your driving record at your interview I wouldn't stress about it. I have friends that I know personally hired by FedEx and United with a DUI. I hear Delta is even hiring with it on your record too.

yrbroom
07-21-2018, 09:14 AM
Isn't there some issue about flying into Canada with the DUI though? I'm not sure how long that restriction lasts.

deftone
07-21-2018, 09:37 AM
Isn't there some issue about flying into Canada with the DUI though? I'm not sure how long that restriction lasts.

Correct, its an issue for crossing into Canada

Excargodog
07-21-2018, 10:28 AM
Just Be Honest...Seriously!
Monday, 28 August 2017
As you read the small print on your airline applications you will see that you are giving permission for the airline to review areas of your background.

The information required by the PRIA is the MINIMUM airlines are required to collect. In addition to gathering the records required by PRIA, most airlines also do their own background checks which can include credit checks, employer references (not just five years), extensive record reviews, criminal background checks, etc.

When you sign your application you are stating that everything you have listed on that application is true to the best of your knowledge. Airlines take this statement very seriously. Airlines do not ask questions such as, "Have you ever had a FAA violation (traffic ticket, job termination, etc.), that we can find?" In fact, many questions will have no time limit: "Have you ever had a traffic ticket (failed a checkride, been terminated, had an incident, etc.)?"

Airlines are looking for pilots that have integrity, the ability to distinguish right from wrong, someone who is accountable for their actions, professional and honest. These traits are made evident by how you answer these questions on the application BEFORE you get the interview.

It is possible to overcome a serious problem in your background by being forthcoming but it is almost impossible to overcome the appearance of being dishonest by trying to hide it.

NOW is the perfect time to address these concerns. Contact Cage Marshall Consulting today and ask about our application review, background check, and special concerns services.

Being proactive today will prevent you from having to be reactive before or during your interview.

.......

While I don't think you need to consult with them for a regional app, the rest of it is nonetheless good advice. And it they gave you for free.

Excargodog
07-21-2018, 10:47 AM
A single uncomplicated DUI over ten years ago with no subsequent legal problems OF ANY KIND is usually just a mass of paperwork but nonetheless can be done by a highly motivated individual him/her self.

Anything more recent or more complicated, and you are probably going to need professional help:

Canada Immigration Lawyer for Canadian DWI Entry (http://www.canadaduientrylaw.com/lawyer.php)

An excerpt:

The eligibility criteria for Criminal Rehabilitation by virtue of time is very simple. A person may be eligible to be "deemed rehabilitated" if they have only one conviction, all jail time has been completed and fees and fines have been paid at least ten years prior, and the offense is not considered a serious crime in Canada (such as a felony) and did not involve a weapon or physical harm/property damage. The eligibility criteria for Streamlined Rehabilitation is also very simple. A person is eligible to apply for CR if all jail time, restitution, and parole or probation have been completed for at least five years. You can not apply for streamlined Criminal Rehabilitation at a Canadian Port of Entry like you can with a Temporary Resident Permit. The application process involves a large number of documents including photocopies of a United States passport or birth certificate, photo identification, a copy of court documents for each conviction as well as proof that the sentences have been fully satisfied, Police certifications from the state where the convictions happened and from any state you have lived in for more than six months in the past ten years, and lastly an FBI identification record. It costs 155 American dollars to apply for Streamlined Rehabilitation, but the Deemed Rehabilitation process is free. Because the application process is very complex and requires you to obtain several legal documents, retaining the services of a Canadian immigration lawyer is highly recommended. An attorney experienced in Canadian immigration matters will be able to ensure the application is submitted accurately and completely, which can maximize your chances of successful entry to Canada.

dera
07-21-2018, 02:04 PM
Not trying to hide anything. I didn't offer it up, because they didn't ask. I've read they do their background checks during training... There's no way in hell I'm going to gettes pulled out of training to get fired from my new job and not having my old job. Aside from the fact that I truly believe honesty is the only way to go. I was really asking to get a feel for how hard I have to brace myself for the follow up next week.

They ask in the initial phone call, when they ask about failed checkrides etc.

RetroABC
08-04-2018, 07:06 PM
Getting into Canada is not a problem. I took care of that for my current job and have been in and out with no problems for the last 2 years.

I want to stress again that I never had intentions of lying or trying to hide this. It honestly had not been asked yet. I just wanted to get a feel for how the rest of the process was going to be.. more to calm my nerves (if possible).

Talked to my recruiter and we cleared everything with HR. For anyone asking in the future, 5 years and under is a hard no. 6-10 years is a case by case basis. Fortunately, I haven't even had a traffic ticket since then and my court documents back up the info I gave them (.053 BAC with no accident or injury of any kind).

There is never an excuse to drive after drinking, but I'm glad to know that not everyone will hold that mistake against someone forever.

Thanks for the support and kind words!

Bahamasflyer
08-11-2018, 10:10 PM
Getting into Canada is not a problem. I took care of that for my current job and have been in and out with no problems for the last 2 years.

I want to stress again that I never had intentions of lying or trying to hide this. It honestly had not been asked yet. I just wanted to get a feel for how the rest of the process was going to be.. more to calm my nerves (if possible).

Talked to my recruiter and we cleared everything with HR. For anyone asking in the future, 5 years and under is a hard no. 6-10 years is a case by case basis. Fortunately, I haven't even had a traffic ticket since then and my court documents back up the info I gave them (.053 BAC with no accident or injury of any kind).

There is never an excuse to drive after drinking, but I'm glad to know that not everyone will hold that mistake against someone forever.

Thanks for the support and kind words!

A DUI for a .053% BAC? Something doesn't seem to add up.

That is well under the legal limit DUI threshold. That's what......like 2 beers for most people?

Half the people driving out of Applebees or TGIF at 8:00 on a Sat night probably have BAC's in that range.

dera
08-11-2018, 10:22 PM
A DUI for a .053% BAC? Something doesn't seem to add up.

That is well under the legal limit DUI threshold. That's what......like 2 beers for most people?

Half the people driving out of Applebees or TGIF at 8:00 on a Sat night probably have BAC's in that range.

Depends on your body weight. More like 4-5 beers. If you're a big guy, 6-7 beers. Can also get a DWI at that BAC.

Rahlifer
08-12-2018, 02:43 AM
A DUI for a .053% BAC? Something doesn't seem to add up.

That is well under the legal limit DUI threshold. That's what......like 2 beers for most people?

Half the people driving out of Applebees or TGIF at 8:00 on a Sat night probably have BAC's in that range.

Utah recently lowered the threshold down to .05 bac. Thatís one drink for a 180lb male.

Bahamasflyer
08-12-2018, 06:13 AM
Utah recently lowered the threshold down to .05 bac. That’s one drink for a 180lb male.


YIKES!

I stand corrected then. I mistakenly thought 0.08% was the limit in all states.

While I personally don't drive with any alcohol in my system, having a lot more to lose in this industry than Joe Schmoe, making criminals out of those between 0.05 and 0.08% seems like an absolute waste of police resources.

I'd MUCH rather see the finite amount of law enforcement manpower targeted at those texting and driving, than targeting those less than 0.08%.

dera
08-12-2018, 10:00 AM
Utah recently lowered the threshold down to .05 bac. That’s one drink for a 180lb male.

No it isn't.
It's 3 standard drinks (beer, single pour of booze etc) in 1 hour for 180lb male.

Rahlifer
08-12-2018, 12:18 PM
No it isn't.
It's 3 standard drinks (beer, single pour of booze etc) in 1 hour for 180lb male.

I checked with a few different online BAC calculators. They all vary between 1 to 2.5 drinks to exceed .05 for a 180 lb male. Most donít take into account the alcohol percentage in each standard drink serving so I can see there being a large variance. Granted, if this keeps someone up at night, they may have bigger issues to worry about. 😃

dera
08-12-2018, 01:25 PM
I checked with a few different online BAC calculators. They all vary between 1 to 2.5 drinks to exceed .05 for a 180 lb male. Most donít take into account the alcohol percentage in each standard drink serving so I can see there being a large variance. Granted, if this keeps someone up at night, they may have bigger issues to worry about. 😃

It's about 2.5 drinks if you drink them as shots, in 10-20 minutes. It's very close to 3 standard drinks consumed over 1 hour. Standard drink is 14 grams of alcohol. A standard bar "tip pour" is often 2-3 standard drinks so got to be careful with that one JD+Coke.

But yes, no-one should play that close to the numbers. But you can safely drink a beer and still be 100% legal to drive, even with 0.05BAC limit. Just don't make that beer a 9% IPA :)

galaxy flyer
08-12-2018, 02:03 PM
How far back does the pilot background check for Republic go? Will a dui from 7-8 years ago make them rescind the offer they gave me?

You said, ďrescind the offer they gave meĒ, which sounds like you have an offer and havenít told them. Second, I canít believe the application you filled out doesnít have questions regarding arrests, convictions, etc. You must have completed one.

GF

dera
08-12-2018, 02:13 PM
You said, ďrescind the offer they gave meĒ, which sounds like you have an offer and havenít told them. Second, I canít believe the application you filled out doesnít have questions regarding arrests, convictions, etc. You must have completed one.

GF

It's in the application, and they also ask in the initial HR screening call.

Random Task
08-13-2018, 07:54 AM
You said, ďrescind the offer they gave meĒ, which sounds like you have an offer and havenít told them. Second, I canít believe the application you filled out doesnít have questions regarding arrests, convictions, etc. You must have completed one.

GF

Yeah this is crazy. That application must ask about DUI or other encounters with the law.