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Voski
08-16-2018, 04:01 AM
Anyone have the details to the new CAE Army fixed-wing course down in Dothan, AL? The old FWMEQC had plenty of info on it when FSI ran it, however, all that’s really known about the new course is that it’s 3 months long and there’s a combination of flying the Grob and the C-12.


kaputt
08-16-2018, 12:01 PM
Truly sorry to hijack this thread a bit, but on a mostly related note, is the Army sending people direct to fixed wing these days?

Gundriver64
08-16-2018, 01:29 PM
Truly sorry to hijack this thread a bit, but on a mostly related note, is the Army sending people direct to fixed wing these days?

YES, FWMEQC exists. Tried explaining that to someone here a couple of months ago and they couldn't be convinced otherwise. We have people in my unit with FY19 reservations. The RA may not be sending people. The Guard and Reserves do.


BeatNavy
08-16-2018, 01:36 PM
YES, FWMEQC exists. Tried explaining that to someone here a couple of months ago and they couldn't be convinced otherwise. We have people in my unit with FY19 reservations. The RA may not be sending people. The Guard and Reserves do.

There is an IEFW track as well now.

Taco280AI
08-17-2018, 06:52 PM
FW is now a selection at Rucker. You go through primary, instruments and BWS like normal, but if you choose FW your rotor wing days are done.

gollum
08-19-2018, 12:20 PM
FW is now a selection at Rucker. You go through primary, instruments and BWS like normal, but if you choose FW your rotor wing days are done.

Only for AD. Guard and Reserves do what they want.

Taco280AI
08-19-2018, 02:34 PM
Was written for the AD side, guard doesn't have selection since they already know what they're flying.

ArmyFW
10-30-2018, 01:04 AM
Yep the IEFW track isn’t bad, building dual engine time with only a 6 year ADSO. And if you stay in past that there is the opportunity to fly UC-35’s or Guifstreams. I graduated flight school about 14 months ago and I have 400 hours total time so the flight time is there as well as long as you deploy.. and are a warrant lol

khergan
11-03-2018, 05:23 PM
They do the Grob and the C-12U now.

Old program had C-182, Baron, C-12C/D, then C-12V sims.

New one AFAIK has Grob then C-12U. C-12V is reserve exclusive and I've heard that they don't do nearly as much - it's C-12U focused. AD sends people through who select FW in selection, usually going on to a SEMA course unless they go straight to a C-12U VIP unit.

Just got out of the MC-12 course and feedback from IPs is that new students who come through the CAE course are not as well prepared as the students who came from Flight Safety. That's obviously anecdotal feedback, but they get less overall time, so it may be true.

Gundriver64
11-04-2018, 08:00 AM
They do the Grob and the C-12U now.

Old program had C-182, Baron, C-12C/D, then C-12V sims.

New one AFAIK has Grob then C-12U. C-12V is reserve exclusive and I've heard that they don't do nearly as much - it's C-12U focused. AD sends people through who select FW in selection, usually going on to a SEMA course unless they go straight to a C-12U VIP unit.

Just got out of the MC-12 course and feedback from IPs is that new students who come through the CAE course are not as well prepared as the students who came from Flight Safety. That's obviously anecdotal feedback, but they get less overall time, so it may be true.

Yep, to the chagrin of USAR VIP units, students are not getting any C-12V time at CAE. It's "fun" teaching someone ProLine 21 straight from the cockpit :eek:

JTwift
11-04-2018, 03:02 PM
Just got out of the MC-12 course and feedback from IPs is that new students who come through the CAE course are not as well prepared as the students who came from Flight Safety. That's obviously anecdotal feedback, but they get less overall time, so it may be true.


I know a guy who knows a guy (for real, though, no kidding) who took the job with CAE at Dothan. He started in January, and by Feb he was with students. He didn't even get a 'how to work the sim' spin-up. So, I can see how this could be true.

sherpster
11-04-2018, 04:28 PM
Yep, to the chagrin of USAR VIP units, students are not getting any C-12V time at CAE. It's "fun" teaching someone ProLine 21 straight from the cockpit :eek:

The horror. I am a former 64 driver myself and the proline 21 is about as easy as they come but hey, if thats what bothers you then OK. What bothers me is that you must be a former 64 driver where there are a bizzilion switch options in that cockpit yet you complain about teaching a proline 21 cockpit. You are making gun bunnies look weak.
Are you sure you werent a 60 pilot at some point???

Gundriver64
11-04-2018, 04:47 PM
The horror. I am a former 64 driver myself and the proline 21 is about as easy as they come but hey, if thats what bothers you then OK. What bothers me is that you must be a former 64 driver where there are a bizzilion switch options in that cockpit yet you complain about teaching a proline 21 cockpit. You are making gun bunnies look weak.
Are you sure you werent a 60 pilot at some point???

I guess the point flew right over your coconut. CAE gets paid umpteengazzilion dollars to teach Proline 21. They should teach it. I was likely "gun bunnying" since before you were popping zits on your face...

sherpster
11-04-2018, 05:55 PM
I guess the point flew right over your coconut. CAE gets paid umpteengazzilion dollars to teach Proline 21. They should teach it. I was likely "gun bunnying" since before you were popping zits on your face...

Proved my point, that was easy

Gundriver64
11-04-2018, 06:20 PM
Proved my point, that was easy

You never had a valid point to begin with. Self-flattery is cheap. Since, I can’t reach through this screen and pat you on the head to make you feel better; you’ll have to work it out on your own with that self-aggrandizing cry for help stuff. If that’s a bridge too far, the local CVS might be running a special on vagisil...

sherpster
11-04-2018, 11:18 PM
You never had a valid point to begin with. Self-flattery is cheap. Since, I can’t reach through this screen and pat you on the head to make you feel better; you’ll have to work it out on your own with that self-aggrandizing cry for help stuff. If that’s a bridge too far, the local CVS might be running a special on vagisil...

Now I know the truth, you were a 60 pilot at some point. Probably tracked 60's in the early 2000's. There is no other explanation as to why you think learning the Proline 21 is difficult. I am guessing you got a couple of years in a 64 cockpit in the reserves/guard and now your screen name is "GunDriver64"? Probably also have a Firebirds cap you wear around town.

Gundriver64
11-05-2018, 01:25 AM
Now I know the truth, you were a 60 pilot at some point. Probably tracked 60's in the early 2000's. There is no other explanation as to why you think learning the Proline 21 is difficult. I am guessing you got a couple of years in a 64 cockpit in the reserves/guard and now your screen name is "GunDriver64"? Probably also have a Firebirds cap you wear around town.

Here’s a little pearl of wisdom that would probably do you a lot of good: “Better to be thought a fool, than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”

sherpster
11-05-2018, 02:58 AM
Here’s a little pearl of wisdom that would probably do you a lot of good: “Better to be thought a fool, than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”

Whatever you say, Mr “Gun Driver”

tomgoodman
11-05-2018, 04:57 AM
This thread has degenerated into a pie fight, and we have run out of pies. Bakery closed.



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