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TCASTESTOK
09-16-2018, 10:03 AM
This was from a post back in 2012 called Eagle Pilots: A must read



There is no job protection. AA will be taken over, more than likely, by US Airways and the AIP contains no successorship or merger protection language when AA is acquired by another carrier.

Who could have predicted that it would be the OTHER WAY AROUND, that AA would take over US Airway.


ps2sunvalley
09-16-2018, 10:13 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Group#Merger_between_AMR_Corpora tion_and_US_Airways_Group

That's not quite how it all shook out.

TL;DR
-The merger was seen more of a merger of equals
-AA branding remained due to better name recognition
-Most of the management team is former US, Doug Parker was even the AW CEO before the AW-US merger
-One world stayed because why would the new AA stay in Star Alliance with United?
-Most operations facilities consolidated to DFW because they already existed, previously US had stuff all over, HQ in PHX, operations center in PIT

So no, AA didn't really take over US Airways.

EMBFlyer
09-16-2018, 11:05 AM
This was from a post back in 2012 called Eagle Pilots: A must read



There is no job protection. AA will be taken over, more than likely, by US Airways and the AIP contains no successorship or merger protection language when AA is acquired by another carrier.

Who could have predicted that it would be the OTHER WAY AROUND, that AA would take over US Airway.

They didn't. But thanks for playing.


sailingfun
09-17-2018, 05:09 AM
This was from a post back in 2012 called Eagle Pilots: A must read



There is no job protection. AA will be taken over, more than likely, by US Airways and the AIP contains no successorship or merger protection language when AA is acquired by another carrier.

Who could have predicted that it would be the OTHER WAY AROUND, that AA would take over US Airway.

I think you got that backward. USAir took over AA. They kept the AA name but it was a USAIR show.

Route66
09-18-2018, 04:21 AM
I think you got that backward. USAir took over AA. They kept the AA name but it was a USAIR show.
Yes, but Parker took the "adapt and go" philosophy where the management would adapt the policies (generally) of the larger group. However, LAA management pilots still generally populate the tiers of flight operations. Now policies that were once used on the DC-6 are now starting to be used on the Airbus. I don't really care, the pay makes up for it and we're not going back to a qfe altimeter setting (as of now, anyway).

flydc
09-18-2018, 05:29 AM
who cares?

EMBFlyer
09-18-2018, 02:25 PM
Yes, but Parker took the "adapt and go" philosophy where the management would adapt the policies (generally) of the larger group. However, LAA management pilots still generally populate the tiers of flight operations. Now policies that were once used on the DC-6 are now starting to be used on the Airbus. I don't really care, the pay makes up for it and we're not going back to a qfe altimeter setting (as of now, anyway).

You could always take that up with the union's Safety Committee.

....Oh, that's right...

SheepDogg
09-18-2018, 03:46 PM
I think you got that backward. USAir took over AA. They kept the AA name but it was a USAIR show.

And they are doing a fantastic job! On a completely unrelated note, has anyone seen the stock price lately? Also, anyone have any guess how much market share we will end up giving up in the largest US market city? Anyway, fanatastic job. Faaantastic.

flyinawa
09-18-2018, 04:37 PM
I think you got that backward. USAir took over AA. They kept the AA name but it was a USAIR show.

Jeez, I thought it was AWA took over USAir. They just kept the...wait, you know what? WHO CARES! ALL that crap is way above our pay grade and water under the bridge. If we donít all start rowing in the same direction, weíre ALL gonna have pretty disappointing careers.

Name User
09-18-2018, 05:56 PM
Jeez, I thought it was AWA took over USAir. They just kept the...wait, you know what? WHO CARES! ALL that crap is way above our pay grade and water under the bridge. If we donít all start rowing in the same direction, weíre ALL gonna have pretty disappointing careers.

I wish more realized this.

As more newbies come on board I hope it will get better. As is, most CA's are checking out within the next five to ten years so they DGAF. Can't say I don't blame them.

jcountry
09-18-2018, 06:08 PM
I think you got that backward. USAir took over AA. They kept the AA name but it was a USAIR show.

Very similar to delta.

The name and HQ stayed the same, but NWA mgmt took over.

jcountry
09-18-2018, 06:10 PM
we're not going back to a qfe altimeter setting (as of now, anyway).

Donít give them the idea.

We record the engine oil added in pints. Figure that one out.

(Thatís the mx equivalent of QFE.)

Saabs
09-18-2018, 10:39 PM
Donít give them the idea.

We record the engine oil added in pints. Figure that one out.

(Thatís the mx equivalent of QFE.)

My plane is in quarts. What fleet are you on? Never seen pints at AA

R57 relay
09-19-2018, 05:24 AM
My plane is in quarts. What fleet are you on? Never seen pints at AA

It's pints. Look at the fine print on the AML page.

Saabs
09-19-2018, 10:46 AM
It's pints. Look at the fine print on the AML page.

That makes zero sense. Itís very clearly in quarts on the gauges and in the expanded preflight in the OM or whatever the heck they are calling it now.

Route66
09-20-2018, 03:44 AM
Jeez, I thought it was AWA took over USAir. They just kept the...wait, you know what? WHO CARES! ALL that crap is way above our pay grade and water under the bridge. If we donít all start rowing in the same direction, weíre ALL gonna have pretty disappointing careers.

That time is over. Iím rowing for me. The union has deserted all of us and the ďdrumsĒ you beat are muted after this last merger. Filling my account with cash. Where wer you about that rowing when the seniority issue was around? Let it go, you say? Itís the gift that keeps on giving. Got my ATW true up today. Whoíd thunk. Of course the union will want its cut.

Itís been a great career for me.....despite the AWA and LAA pilots who continue to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

Route66
09-20-2018, 03:46 AM
You could always take that up with the union's Safety Committee.

....Oh, that's right...

That is right. The APA is a management ďrubber stampĒ.

Spoiler
01-31-2019, 09:59 AM
Oil was measured in 55 gal drums on the DC7



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