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jslehman1
09-17-2018, 05:15 PM
Can any 1st and 2nd year FOs tell me what I could expect to make (not including benefits)? What has been your monthly credit average and days off per month?


Jungle Jim
09-17-2018, 06:02 PM
Can any 1st and 2nd year FOs tell me what I could expect to make (not including benefits)? What has been your monthly credit average and days off per month?

This information is literally everywhere in this forum. If you click more buttons than new thread, you'd find what you're looking for quickly.

Geardownflaps30
09-18-2018, 03:33 PM
$2765.47 net per month.

Of course this varies with your health insurance plan selection, 401(k) selection, disability selections, other insurance selections, etc etc. YMMV


Captain Slow
09-18-2018, 03:51 PM
$2765.47 net per month.

Of course this varies with your health insurance plan selection, 401(k) selection, disability selections, other insurance selections, etc etc. YMMV

Not trying to discredit, but to give OP an idea how useless this information is, my take home is typically at least 1k more than that as a second year FO.

It will vary wildly based on your benefits selections, where you live, bidding, and desire to work/not.

These threads donít paint a very good picture of what you may or may not earn.

TheWeatherman
09-19-2018, 12:47 PM
Yeah, that is not close to mine. And no, I am not going to post my personal income. I always find it kind of rude when people ask for that or for your W2. Pay-rates are all there in the APC profiles for you to puruse. Then take your own personal tax rates and deduct it from that amount. It is going to be different for everybody.

Geardownflaps30
09-19-2018, 04:19 PM
Not trying to discredit, but to give OP an idea how useless this information is, my take home is typically at least 1k more than that as a second year FO.

It will vary wildly based on your benefits selections, where you live, bidding, and desire to work/not.

These threads don’t paint a very good picture of what you may or may not earn.


Bravo. That was the point of my post. Those numbers I pulled from my butt. Congrats on pointing out the incredibly obvious. Perhaps next time you’ll point out only the merely obvious. Or perhaps...you REALLY are “CAPT Slow”! And for gawd sake... per diem does NOT count as income. Subtract that out.

Viking6
09-19-2018, 04:56 PM
The answer youíre looking for isnít the same for every pilot. Iím told 3500-4000 is easy on 2nd year pay. As others have mentioned it will depend on your deductions, and whether youíre a commuter as well. Iíve flown with FOs who credit 100 hours a month, which is about 4300 a month net after only taxes.

Varkguy
09-20-2018, 04:09 AM
Can any 1st and 2nd year FOs tell me what I could expect to make (not including benefits)? What has been your monthly credit average and days off per month?

In my first year now. Since I figure all that you probably care about is what you get in your paycheck to pay your bills with here is my info. The end of month paycheck is always the same. For me it’s $1439. The mid-month pays all your extra hours and such and mine is usually $3,000 to $3,500 when I’m crediting 95-105 hours a month. As an LGA FO I can credit around 100 hours every month picking up time.

Days off have varied, depending on how much I want to work and how busy the schedule is, but in September I have 14 days off and October I have 16 days off, bidding min credit. I had min (12) days off through the summer months but I also left my bid open to whatever they wanted for credit. I credited 109 hours my first month including IOE, then over 100 for the rest of the summer months and now that things have slowed down I’m crediting about 86 this month and 78 in October. I’ll probably pick up some nice open time day trips with high credit since I live in domicile to get into the mid 80s.

Big caveat for my info is that I have other health insurance so I’m not having anything taken out for that. I am maximizing the matching on the 401K but that’s not much. Hope that helps.

pilotdream90
09-20-2018, 05:03 AM
In my first year now. Since I figure all that you probably care about is what you get in your paycheck to pay your bills with here is my info. The end of month paycheck is always the same. For me itís $1439. The mid-month pays all your extra hours and such and mine is usually $3,000 to $3,500 when Iím crediting 95-105 hours a month. As an LGA FO I can credit around 100 hours every month picking up time.

Days off have varied, depending on how much I want to work and how busy the schedule is, but in September I have 14 days off and October I have 16 days off, bidding min credit. I had min (12) days off through the summer months but I also left my bid open to whatever they wanted for credit. I credited 109 hours my first month including IOE, then over 100 for the rest of the summer months and now that things have slowed down Iím crediting about 86 this month and 78 in October. Iíll probably pick up some nice open time day trips with high credit since I live in domicile to get into the mid 80s.

Big caveat for my info is that I have other health insurance so Iím not having anything taken out for that. I am maximizing the matching on the 401K but thatís not much. Hope that helps.

Looks like i made the right move coming here! So excited!!

Random Task
09-20-2018, 12:04 PM
In my first year now. Since I figure all that you probably care about is what you get in your paycheck to pay your bills with here is my info. The end of month paycheck is always the same. For me itís $1439. The mid-month pays all your extra hours and such and mine is usually $3,000 to $3,500 when Iím crediting 95-105 hours a month. As an LGA FO I can credit around 100 hours every month picking up time.

Days off have varied, depending on how much I want to work and how busy the schedule is, but in September I have 14 days off and October I have 16 days off, bidding min credit. I had min (12) days off through the summer months but I also left my bid open to whatever they wanted for credit. I credited 109 hours my first month including IOE, then over 100 for the rest of the summer months and now that things have slowed down Iím crediting about 86 this month and 78 in October. Iíll probably pick up some nice open time day trips with high credit since I live in domicile to get into the mid 80s.

Big caveat for my info is that I have other health insurance so Iím not having anything taken out for that. I am maximizing the matching on the 401K but thatís not much. Hope that helps.

Check the trade board before you look in open time! When people pick up open time for straight pay we lose red flag leverage.

kls81
09-20-2018, 12:56 PM
Do those amounts include any of the bonus money? Or does that come in a separate check?


In my first year now. Since I figure all that you probably care about is what you get in your paycheck to pay your bills with here is my info. The end of month paycheck is always the same. For me itís $1439. The mid-month pays all your extra hours and such and mine is usually $3,000 to $3,500 when Iím crediting 95-105 hours a month. As an LGA FO I can credit around 100 hours every month picking up time.

Days off have varied, depending on how much I want to work and how busy the schedule is, but in September I have 14 days off and October I have 16 days off, bidding min credit. I had min (12) days off through the summer months but I also left my bid open to whatever they wanted for credit. I credited 109 hours my first month including IOE, then over 100 for the rest of the summer months and now that things have slowed down Iím crediting about 86 this month and 78 in October. Iíll probably pick up some nice open time day trips with high credit since I live in domicile to get into the mid 80s.

Big caveat for my info is that I have other health insurance so Iím not having anything taken out for that. I am maximizing the matching on the 401K but thatís not much. Hope that helps.

jslehman1
09-25-2018, 10:09 AM
In my first year now. Since I figure all that you probably care about is what you get in your paycheck to pay your bills with here is my info. The end of month paycheck is always the same. For me itís $1439. The mid-month pays all your extra hours and such and mine is usually $3,000 to $3,500 when Iím crediting 95-105 hours a month. As an LGA FO I can credit around 100 hours every month picking up time.

Days off have varied, depending on how much I want to work and how busy the schedule is, but in September I have 14 days off and October I have 16 days off, bidding min credit. I had min (12) days off through the summer months but I also left my bid open to whatever they wanted for credit. I credited 109 hours my first month including IOE, then over 100 for the rest of the summer months and now that things have slowed down Iím crediting about 86 this month and 78 in October. Iíll probably pick up some nice open time day trips with high credit since I live in domicile to get into the mid 80s.

Big caveat for my info is that I have other health insurance so Iím not having anything taken out for that. I am maximizing the matching on the 401K but thatís not much. Hope that helps.

Thanks for the info. Iím assuming your numbers are gross income?

Varkguy
09-26-2018, 12:13 PM
Thanks for the info. Iím assuming your numbers are gross income?

Those are the numbers that show up in my bank account, i.e. cash in hand. Gross is more obviously.

Varkguy
09-26-2018, 12:14 PM
Do those amounts include any of the bonus money? Or does that come in a separate check?

Nope, those are regular monthly amounts. I got the big bonus payout on the check after IOE was done.

Thewrongstufff
09-27-2018, 07:13 AM
Iíll chime In... I think it helps to paint a better picture of this place with some financial numbers

First year gross $75000 with a $10000 bonus 2.5 month of training and 2 months of reserve @ 85-95 hrs a month

Second year looking at about the same bc minus the bonus and +10/ hr with the 45$ For about 3 months then $50/hr.

Most of my first year was at $40/hr

Living in base now so that will prob be a low ball figure now.

Always living below means (75 X pay rate)

FlyGood
09-28-2018, 09:54 PM
Iíll chime In... I think it helps to paint a better picture of this place with some financial numbers

First year gross $75000 with a $10000 bonus 2.5 month of training and 2 months of reserve @ 85-95 hrs a month

Second year looking at about the same bc minus the bonus and +10/ hr with the 45$ For about 3 months then $50/hr.

Most of my first year was at $40/hr

Living in base now so that will prob be a low ball figure now.

Always living below means (75 X pay rate)

75K??? Either youíre using some new math or picking up a ton of red flag.

MrFriendly7
10-05-2018, 12:45 PM
I hear most hardworking foís making 65-75k