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09-18-2018, 06:37 AM
Just a quick question regarding the new rules regarding complex/TAA time for getting a commercial cert ASEL: as of August 27th you can get your “complex” time in a TAA. Does this mean that anytime you have in a TAA prior to the 27th counts towards this requirement or does all the time have to be accrued in a TAA after the 27th?

09-18-2018, 09:23 AM

§61.129 Aeronautical experience.

(a) For an airplane single-engine rating. Except as provided in paragraph (i) of this section, a person who applies for a commercial pilot certificate with an airplane category and single-engine class rating must log at least 250 hours of flight time as a pilot that consists of at least:

(ii) 10 hours of training in a complex airplane, a turbine-powered airplane, or a technically advanced airplane (TAA) that meets the requirements of paragraph (j) of this section, or any combination thereof. The airplane must be appropriate to land or sea for the rating sought;

There is no date attached.

There is no need to get your "complex" time in a TAA (technically advanced aircraft). You can use a TAA aircraft that is complex, but you need not. Any combination of 10 hours in complex OR turbine powered OR TAA.

The regulation does not specify an effectivity date for that time; if your time was accrued prior to the implementation of the regulatory change, it's valid time and counts. You could not have used that time toward the certification requirements prior to the effective date of the regulation, but that date has arrived, and you can use the time.

If you have TAA time logged prior to August 28th, it's as valid as time logged after.

To be clear, you may use a TAA aircraft that is complex, but you may also use a TAA aircraft that is not complex. It may be turbine, or not. Any of the three categories, or any combination of them, are adequate: complex, turbine, or TAA. So long as it meets one of those criteria, you're good with respect to the regulation.

09-23-2018, 12:02 PM
I owned a Mooney and 2 Cirrus AC. Finding quality COM training in complex AC for training in early 2018 was difficult and the new rules helped me. I had 80 hours in the Mooney but only 7 training so that wasn't going to work on the first adjusted rule changes, but the new TAA made a big difference as I had 15 hours training in Cirruses (with glass and APs) I waited until after August to schedule my check ride and doing it in a 172! Found it a lot easier to do the spot landings as well!