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Christian102001
09-18-2018, 05:53 PM
Are there any flight schools that are like ATP flight school but cheaper?


WesternSkies
09-18-2018, 06:27 PM
Are there any flight schools that are like ATP flight school but cheaper?

I see you seem to think there is something special about ATP that we are all hip on.
Care to elaborate what ATP is "like"?

dbdevkc
09-19-2018, 03:54 AM
Are there any flight schools that are like ATP flight school but cheaper?

I get what you are asking. You are looking for a program that will get you through it quick - zero to hero - for less money than ATP.

There are, but they may not be as quick as ATP. You have to do a lot of research. And there are always trade-offs. For example, ATP will not be holding your hand through the process. There would be a ton of self-study involved. There is a guy on YouTube that is at ATP and describes his experience. They are pushing him through and he busted his private pilot checkride. Many of the "quick" programs are the same way. They get you the flying, you do the study. And be prepared to do it fast. Or go in with your writtens already done.

There are plenty of others, they just don't do the advertising that ATP does. examples: American Flyers, LIFT (don't do it), Epic (FL), Falcon (GA), etc, etc...

Also, from other posts I see you are in NY as am I. NY tends to be on the expensive side for flight training. I know you were asking about Richmor. All I can say is get an estimate/quote from them. Also consider a community college for two years. I know Dutchess County CC has an aviation program.

Also, there is nothing wrong with getting a nursing degree as you have spoken about, while picking up flight time and ratings along the way on the side.


aiir
09-19-2018, 01:45 PM
Iím in the Los Angeles area and there are many mom and pop schools around this area that can do what ATP does and for less, the problem with them is securing the financing. They donít have connections with Sallie Mae and Wells Fargo, like ATP does, which sucks since ATP is obviously crazy overpriced, plus add the time it takes to pay off the loan, and that high interest really adds up.

tvnewspilot
09-19-2018, 04:37 PM
Do all of your writtens.. Private through FOi, find a partner to train with... Backseat and safety pilot for each other.

Jrose22
09-20-2018, 06:28 AM
www.DiscountIdiotl.com

dbdevkc
09-20-2018, 07:05 AM
you are absolutely right! And that's why atp gets the enrollment numbers they do. Please, check out discountflightscamcom. They are a nonprofit vetting agency only that enrolls you in a part 141 program with $750 down and $193 a month with no interest!

avoid this scam

JohnBurke
09-20-2018, 09:37 AM
wwxxx.com

You're just spamming the hell out of threads with this crap, aren't you? How long before you get caught, do you suppose? How much money do you think you'll pull out of it before the site shuts down, and what are the odds you'll get caught?

I've little use for scammers like you. Your website information has been forwarded to the Phoenix FBI and the FTC. Good luck.

JohnBurke
09-20-2018, 11:10 AM
They are a nonprofit vetting agency only that enrolls you in a part 141 program with $750 down and $193 a month with NO interest!

The website is called "Grandparents of America."

Which Part 141 school. Where? Link it. Show it. Prove it.

tomgoodman
09-20-2018, 12:49 PM
Apparently the TSA ďvettingĒ requirement provides an opportunity for ďagenciesĒ to ďenrollĒ a foreign student in a flight school, sort of like a dating service, but with more hazards. :rolleyes:

https://www.wfsb.com/news/flight-schools-explain-vetting-process-after-east-hartford-plane-crash/article_d20a4322-3432-586f-9ed9-ee0bfd3e5984.html

Imasuen1
09-20-2018, 04:06 PM
Iím in the Los Angeles area and there are many mom and pop schools around this area that can do what ATP does and for less, the problem with them is securing the financing. They donít have connections with Sallie Mae and Wells Fargo, like ATP does, which sucks since ATP is obviously crazy overpriced, plus add the time it ta3kes to pay off the loan, and that high interest really adds up.
And if i may ask, What does the flight school got to do with securing a loan? Loans approval largely depends on credit history and credit score.. Why do some schools like ATP have an edge in securing finance over other schools?

Christian102001
09-20-2018, 04:12 PM
I get what you are asking. You are looking for a program that will get you through it quick - zero to hero - for less money than ATP.

There are, but they may not be as quick as ATP. You have to do a lot of research. And there are always trade-offs. For example, ATP will not be holding your hand through the process. There would be a ton of self-study involved. There is a guy on YouTube that is at ATP and describes his experience. They are pushing him through and he busted his private pilot checkride. Many of the "quick" programs are the same way. They get you the flying, you do the study. And be prepared to do it fast. Or go in with your writtens already done.

There are plenty of others, they just don't do the advertising that ATP does. examples: American Flyers, LIFT (don't do it), Epic (FL), Falcon (GA), etc, etc...

Also, from other posts I see you are in NY as am I. NY tends to be on the expensive side for flight training. I know you were asking about Richmor. All I can say is get an estimate/quote from them. Also consider a community college for two years. I know Dutchess County CC has an aviation program.

Also, there is nothing wrong with getting a nursing degree as you have spoken about, while picking up flight time and ratings along the way on the side.

Thanks for info bra

aiir
09-21-2018, 01:34 AM
And if i may ask, What does the flight school got to do with securing a loan? Loans approval largely depends on credit history and credit score.. Why do some schools like ATP have an edge in securing finance over other schools?

Iím not sure why the bigger schools have an edge, itís probably a numbers game...they pump out so many students that the default rate is probably lower and less risky than the smaller schools plus they have a clear structure and timeline and even then, interest rates are still higher than normal school loans, which makes up for the risk. This is the same with the new crop of academies, for example the American Airlines Cadet program that was just announced made a deal with Discory Loans to secure the financing of their cadets. You just canít find this at the smaller no name schools. Most people that go through them have to find their own financing or pay as they go. Oh, and yes of course getting the loan with the bigger schools still entails having a good credit history/score.



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