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DJIA
10-04-2018, 06:44 AM
Can anyone share the time to hold a Florida base as a line holder? Tried searching but there isn't any updated info.


Blue Dude
10-04-2018, 07:36 AM
Don't bother. The trips are so bad now you're better off elsewhere. There's going to be more movement so any predictions are useless.

capt707
10-04-2018, 07:46 AM
MCO 190 went fairly junior on the last bid... MCO A320 at least 4+ yrs to hold...

FLL you can get in about 1.5 yrs.

This is just to Hold the base, not sure abour lineholder.


DJIA
10-04-2018, 07:47 AM
Ok thanks for the info!


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mike sierra
10-04-2018, 07:48 AM
MCO 190 went fairly junior on the last bid... MCO A320 at least 4+ yrs to hold...

FLL you can get in about 1.5 yrs.

This is just to Hold the base, not sure abour lineholder.

Are you seat locked as FO?

how are the aircraft choose, bid by class seniority?

jtrain609
10-04-2018, 07:49 AM
Don't bother. The trips are so bad now you're better off elsewhere. There's going to be more movement so any predictions are useless.

The trips are bad, so you shouldn't work here?

Junior trips are bad in every base, in every category, at every airline.

If you live in base, who cares what the trips look like.

And to answer the question, junior MCO went under a year, and junior FLL seems to sit around a year, maybe a little more.

Blue Dude
10-04-2018, 07:53 AM
No, I mean that I'm a 17 year guy, and the trips are the worst I've seen since base inception 10 years ago. Not just kinda bad for junior pilots. Therefore, don't expect a QOL improvement holding a line in a Florida base. Sorry for being unclear.

jtrain609
10-04-2018, 08:09 AM
No, I mean that I'm a 17 year guy, and the trips are the worst I've seen since base inception 10 years ago. Not just kinda bad for junior pilots. Therefore, don't expect a QOL improvement holding a line in a Florida base. Sorry for being unclear.

Everyone wants something different out of their pairings. Even when I've been bidding in the top few percent in a position, I want half commutable three days that start early every day, and end early every day. There's nothing better than being done at 0900 on the last day of a three day.

Other people want commutability. Some people want specific overnights. Some people want productivity at any cost. Local guys might want day trips. Local guys might be sick of their spouse and want six day trips.

I've been through three airlines now, and maybe 6 iterations of instructions into the pairing optimizer, and if I've learned one thing it's that the only constant in pairings is that they'll change over time.

nuball5
10-04-2018, 08:10 AM
MCO 190 went fairly junior on the last bid... MCO A320 at least 4+ yrs to hold...

FLL you can get in about 1.5 yrs.

This is just to Hold the base, not sure abour lineholder.

My buddy in his first month in MCO/190 held a line cause RSV tends to go senior. Overall seems happy about it and not commuting to the Northeast.

korg128
10-04-2018, 08:40 AM
Can someone lend a clue on e190 and airbus for BOS and JFK for a new hire? Trips and time to be a lineholder. Thanks

Trowserchilli
10-04-2018, 08:59 AM
How long to hold Capt at MCO and FLL?
Thanks

Bluedriver
10-04-2018, 09:31 AM
How long to hold Capt at MCO and FLL?
Thanks

With our current management at the helm, maybe never.

benzoate
10-04-2018, 09:52 AM
The trips are bad, so you shouldn't work here?

Junior trips are bad in every base, in every category, at every airline.

If you live in base, who cares what the trips look like.

And to answer the question, junior MCO went under a year, and junior FLL seems to sit around a year, maybe a little more.

Pilots in the smaller bases do care because they do not commute. If you look at the statistical increases in 4 and 5 days trips its shocking. An increase between 55-76% YoY. Commutable went from 100% to 43-17% YoY. 2 days were cut in half and 1 days were decreased by 71-50% YoY.

The MEC, NC and SSC have drastically affected the smaller bases QOL with their incompetence.

benzoate
10-04-2018, 09:59 AM
How long to hold Capt at MCO and FLL?
Thanks

Im not sure how you answer that. We don't retire more than 10-15 per year for the next few years so upgrades are based solely on growth.



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