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rotorjockey3
10-10-2018, 02:25 PM
I was curious and looking at Envoy job postings and ran across some ground service ones based in LAX. If Envoy is not flying out of LAX, why would they have ground crews already there?


in2deep
10-10-2018, 02:33 PM
There used to be a crew base there. The ground crew is still there.

pitchattitude
10-10-2018, 02:54 PM
Envoy provides ground services at many AA locations because Envoy ground crews, just like pilots, are pennies on the dollar.


BigZ
10-10-2018, 03:09 PM
I was curious and looking at Envoy job postings and ran across some ground service ones based in LAX. If Envoy is not flying out of LAX, why would they have ground crews already there?

There is a super secret Envoy base.
People with the negative seniority numbers get the brand new 175s there and fly them for the first 100 farts in the pilot seats. Sometimes that takes a while because they only fly on every other Wednesday.

Varsity
10-10-2018, 04:06 PM
Piedmont does the ground handling at PHX.

Doesn't make sense, but whatever.

chrisreedrules
10-10-2018, 04:21 PM
I do think Envoy will have an LAX base again... Something is going to give with the TSH regionals in the next year or so.

MD-11Loader
10-10-2018, 04:38 PM
I do think Envoy will have an LAX base again... Something is going to give with the TSH regionals in the next year or so.

Nah, PSA is taking the 175ís from Compass, not us. You guys can have them.

BigZ
10-10-2018, 05:06 PM
Nah, PSA is taking the 175ís from Compass, not us. You guys can have them.

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MD-11Loader
10-10-2018, 05:23 PM
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If youíre an Envoy pilot the last thing you want is 20 more airplane for management to staff and make excuses to meter the flow.

BigZ
10-10-2018, 05:38 PM
If youíre an Envoy pilot the last thing you want is 20 more airplane for management to staff and make excuses to meter the flow.

Flow is metered now too, how would that change?
I was referring to the PSA hate - neither me, nor you, nor this guy you are stalking were around at that time. Bad blood won't make our future brighter.

DreadWing
10-10-2018, 07:15 PM
Bad blood won't make our future brighter.

It sure as ***k wonít make it ďdarker,Ē either; itíll simply cloak matters in a...crimson...veneer.

<chuckle>

N200NN
10-10-2018, 10:38 PM
If Envoy is not flying out of LAX, why would they have ground crews already there?

Envoy does all of our ground services at the eagles nest at LAX.

bigtime209
10-11-2018, 02:14 PM
If youíre an Envoy pilot the last thing you want is 20 more airplane for management to staff and make excuses to meter the flow.

The flow won't change for the worst if more airplanes come and it won't change for the better if more airplanes don't come. The flow will scoot along at the minimum levels spelled out in the contract. However, flow aside, stretching staffing to razor thin levels with to man even more airplanes is most definitely something that will hurt the pilot group from a QOL standpoint. More JMs, denials for drops, denials for PVDs, denials for RSV swaps, etc. Certain statuses are seeing these sort of denials currently more than others, but if more airplanes come you can bet everyone will be feeling the pain.

Flow is metered now too, how would that change?
I was referring to the PSA hate - neither me, nor you, nor this guy you are stalking were around at that time. Bad blood won't make our future brighter.

Bingo....

MD-11Loader
10-11-2018, 03:48 PM
The flow won't change for the worst if more airplanes come and it won't change for the better if more airplanes don't come. The flow will scoot along at the minimum levels spelled out in the contract. However, flow aside, stretching staffing to razor thin levels with to man even more airplanes is most definitely something that will hurt the pilot group from a QOL standpoint. More JMs, denials for drops, denials for PVDs, denials for RSV swaps, etc. Certain statuses are seeing these sort of denials currently more than others, but if more airplanes come you can bet everyone will be feeling the pain.



Bingo....


Management will have even less of a reason to work with us if they are biting off more flying by getting the Compass flying. And no I wasn't here when PSA did what they did, but I was in the industry and watched it happen. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

TalkTurkey
10-11-2018, 04:32 PM
I promise I am not trolling. Word on the street is AA is done with Compass real soon. My guess is you’ll fly their Ejets.

bigtime209
10-11-2018, 05:16 PM
I promise I am not trolling. Word on the street is AA is done with Compass real soon. My guess is youíll fly their Ejets.

Unfortunately, I've talked to a couple of guys in management as well and I'm told it's pretty much a done deal. Can't believe it until it actually happens, but it sounds like that's what is on the horizon.

93Sierra
10-11-2018, 05:20 PM
And word is that delta is done with compass. How can both aa and delta be done with compass? Does compass own any of their 175s?

bigtime209
10-11-2018, 05:34 PM
And word is that delta is done with compass. How can both aa and delta be done with compass? Does compass own any of their 175s?

AAG owns the 20 planes doing the Eagle flying. I have no clue about the Delta birds. Keep in mind there have been wild rumors flying around that Republic might merge with one or more of the TSH carriers (GoJet, TSA, and Compass). If that comes to fruition, there are all kinds of possibilities.

MD-11Loader
10-11-2018, 05:45 PM
In all seriousness, I hope that Compass keeps as much of their DL and AA flying as possible. They are a good pilot group and nobody deserves to have to worry about their future.

bigtime209
10-11-2018, 05:47 PM
In all seriousness, I hope that Compass keeps as much of their DL and AA flying as possible. They are a good pilot group and nobody deserves to have to worry about their future.

Agreed

10/

DiamondDriver
10-11-2018, 05:49 PM
AAG owns the 20 planes doing the Eagle flying. I have no clue about the Delta birds. Keep in mind there have been wild rumors flying around that Republic might merge with one or more of the TSH carriers (GoJet, TSA, and Compass). If that comes to fruition, there are all kinds of possibilities.

Something has to happen it seems. Endeavor's growth is now officially waiting, unsure if they'll be expanding with the (Compass TSH) 175s or more CRJs. United has 25 175s coming that are supposedly going to Xjet which means unless scope changes they need to lose 5 planes for somewhere (maybe GoJet another TSH company). Republic's big 100 plane announcement was supposed to be announced and finalized in Q3 which is now over.

Either something is going to happen. Or nothing is going to happen. Regardless it's creating a bunch of unrest with multiple regionals all for different reasons. We all have the same questions and still no answers.

highfarfast
10-11-2018, 06:26 PM
Either something is going to happen. Or nothing is going to happen.

MIND

BLOWN

:eek:


Sorry, couldn't help it. ;)

zondaracer
10-12-2018, 06:42 AM
AAG owns the 20 planes doing the Eagle flying. I have no clue about the Delta birds. Keep in mind there have been wild rumors flying around that Republic might merge with one or more of the TSH carriers (GoJet, TSA, and Compass). If that comes to fruition, there are all kinds of possibilities.

The Delta planes at Compass are owned by Delta.

Dalda Erlines
10-12-2018, 09:50 AM
AAG owns the 20 planes doing the Eagle flying. I have no clue about the Delta birds. Keep in mind there have been wild rumors flying around that Republic might merge with one or more of the TSH carriers (GoJet, TSA, and Compass). If that comes to fruition, there are all kinds of possibilities.

Delta owns all of the DC Compass planes and AA owns all the Eagle branded airplanes. The only thing Compass owns is a 175 simulator.

dothisbeasa
10-12-2018, 10:19 AM
Flow is metered now too, how would that change?
I was referring to the PSA hate - neither me, nor you, nor this guy you are stalking were around at that time. Bad blood won't make our future brighter.
Being mad at the guys who werenít there wonít make my life better, but remembering that those guys who were there essentially are the reason why our pay is *******ed is reasonable. So yeah Iím still ****ed at PSA and the guys I know who voted the concessions in.