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Floobs
10-11-2018, 12:55 PM
A free times now when a plane comes in late and we're up against departure there are these captains that just stand there and won't get off the a/c.


UPTme
10-11-2018, 01:19 PM
Tool.

You, not them.

Maybe them though. But surely you.

lowflying
10-11-2018, 01:21 PM
Tool.

You, not them.

Maybe them though. But surely you.

You obviously don’t commute... He’s only tool if it’s anything but the last leg ;)


UPTme
10-11-2018, 01:24 PM
I commuted for 4+ years. Finally in base.

My comment was based on the OP coming here and complaining vs confronting the offender. I am not sure what floobs was hoping would happen. I'm glad I could get my daily troll out of the way though.

Fill out your surveys, kids.

Sliceback
10-11-2018, 03:15 PM
Do the walk around in the mean time. Cockpit set up takes less time than it takes to clean and reboard the airplane.

Covfefe
10-11-2018, 04:18 PM
I’m usually yelling my “eight disarmed” response from the jetway..... :cool:

Laker24
10-11-2018, 06:47 PM
A free times now when a plane comes in late and we're up against departure there are these captains that just stand there and won't get off the a/c.

Talk about a ‘forward leaner’. You do realize you have some of the worst work rules in the industry? I’m sure Parker appreciates the extra effort though.

Surprise
10-11-2018, 08:25 PM
Talk about a ‘forward leaner’. You do realize you have some of the worst work rules in the industry? I’m sure Parker appreciates the extra effort though.

Truly. Don’t be a mission hacker.

Name User
10-11-2018, 08:39 PM
They probably don't know you are late. Often times the company will swap aircraft and one that arrives on time or early suddenly becomes the one that is now delayed two hours.

I never got the whole "too cool for school" thing when guys go slow on purpose, or burn a bunch of extra gas to shave 0:01 off your flight time only taxi at 15 kts, etc. etc.

We get paid well for what we do. If this job wasn't union we'd be making half easy of what we currently get paid and I'd bet my pay check things would run a lot better to boot. Eventually we'll get another wake up call and have to take massive pay cuts. Oh and the guys who say they'll walk if that happens, they will be flying 100 hr months.

swaayze
10-12-2018, 07:51 AM
Do the walk around in the mean time. Cockpit set up takes less time than it takes to clean and reboard the airplane.

I’d like to, honestly, but....

1) We have a flow to perform before going outside on the Airbus

2) Risky (theft and security) to leave my bags unattended in the jetway.

airlinegypsy
10-12-2018, 08:16 AM
I’d like to, honestly, but....



1) We have a flow to perform before going outside on the Airbus



2) Risky (theft and security) to leave my bags unattended in the jetway.



So what? Do the job as FM and AOM say to do and if you’re late you’re late.


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nimslow
10-12-2018, 08:16 AM
Once all the passengers are off the airplane? Thats a little bizarre.

Sliceback
10-12-2018, 08:51 AM
I’d like to, honestly, but....

1) We have a flow to perform before going outside on the Airbus

2) Risky (theft and security) to leave my bags unattended in the jetway.

I don't recall being required to do anything before doing the walk around on a through flight. The manual calls for the preflight safety inspection to be done prior to the walk around if electrical power is not established.

The preflight safety checklist says it's purpose is to prepare the aircraft for electrical power and air conditioning. Aircraft doing a quick turn typically have electrical power established.

If time is that critical you can leave you bags on the secure side of the jet bridge.

If the guy's in the way there are multiple options - push him out of the way, knock him down and drag him out of the way, get in his face and tell him to move it, ask him if he's okay and if he knows his flight is over, go back to the terminal and confirm that you're at the right gate, stand by patiently while he gets his act together, etc, etc.

mainlineAF
10-12-2018, 12:46 PM
They probably don't know you are late. Often times the company will swap aircraft and one that arrives on time or early suddenly becomes the one that is now delayed two hours.

I never got the whole "too cool for school" thing when guys go slow on purpose, or burn a bunch of extra gas to shave 0:01 off your flight time only taxi at 15 kts, etc. etc.

We get paid well for what we do. If this job wasn't union we'd be making half easy of what we currently get paid and I'd bet my pay check things would run a lot better to boot. Eventually we'll get another wake up call and have to take massive pay cuts. Oh and the guys who say they'll walk if that happens, they will be flying 100 hr months.



How would things run better if we were non-union?

Besides guys rushing and being afraid to say no bc they don’t want to get fired.

drinksonme
10-12-2018, 03:27 PM
Well maybe I am a d!&k, but I am upset with myself if I am not off before the first passenger....and I no longer commuter either.

If it’s an overnight, then I tell the CA “see you at the curb I’ll call the van”.

If it’s the end of a trip, I say “disarmed” standing in the door way and bolt.

If it’s an overnight with airport hotel, like DFW, I say “I am walking over, you ready?” If not, then it’s “I see you at the plane tomorrow...”.

Don’t care. My time is up on the clock and I am not going to wait around for a slow CA who is overly anal about garbage. If they are moving to get off too, then I’ll wait.

If there is a last minute write-up, fine I’ll wait as long as they are getting things done. CA who pittle around....that’s their choice, I am not sitting our waiting for them

My favorite was a CA who took 30 mins to get the van for a 5 min ride on day one. On day 2, with again a 5 min ride.....I texted him
and left for hotel. He said no worries, cause he was trying to......”get lucky with one of the FA’s”. She wanted literally nothing to do with him, but I wasn’t going to wait for his failure to become reality waiting for him anymore.

flyinawa
10-12-2018, 05:07 PM
I pack my bag up as quickly as possible and am ready to roll in short order but then I’m usually the last one off the airplane in case there are any issues. UNLESS.. the outbound crew is chomping to get on, in which case I get my butt off and out of the way.

Had a crew stay in the cockpit with the door closed until everyone was off (*must have been a serious debriefing) and big shout out to the guy who busily wrote up 3 BS things (ie: display should be brighter) while I was waiting for him to move his butt (*without letting MX know) and then shut the plane down to cold, INCLUDING COCKPIT DOME LIGHTS OFF while I was repeatedly telling him we were due out an hour ago. I messaged his FO to ask WTF the deal was...he said flying with him was just about as enjoyable as I would have guessed it was.

A330FoodCritic
10-12-2018, 05:15 PM
I pack my bag up as quickly as possible and am ready to roll in short order but then I’m usually the last one off the airplane in case there are any issues. UNLESS.. the outbound crew is chomping to get on, in which case I get my butt off and out of the way.

Had a crew stay in the cockpit with the door closed until everyone was off (*must have been a serious debriefing) and big shout out to the guy who would wrote up 3 BS things (ie: display should be brighter) while I was waiting for him to move his butt (*without letting MX know) and then shut the plane down to cold, INCLUDING COCKPIT DOME LIGHTS OFF while I was repeatedly telling him we were due out an hour ago. I messaged his FO to ask WTF the deal was...he said flying with him was just about as enjoyable as I would have guessed it was.

Gee, you guys make me not want to go back to domestic.

flyinawa
10-12-2018, 05:25 PM
Gee, you guys make me not want to go back to domestic.

Shrug. REAL International may be awesome but my 320I is by far the best job I’ve ever had. I literally love every minute of it.

A330FoodCritic
10-12-2018, 05:49 PM
Shrug. REAL International may be awesome but my 320I is by far the best job I’ve ever had. I literally love every minute of it.

I actually liked the old A321, 28 hour SFO layovers. Get in around 9, hit the Irish bar up the hill, with a band sometimes, leave at midnight the next day.

Al Czervik
10-12-2018, 06:26 PM
Once all the passengers are off the airplane? Thats a little bizarre.

SOP on the 7sh!tty7

Dolphinflyer
10-12-2018, 07:41 PM
Reading this thread, I feel like I missed a major buy opportunity of Midol stock.

Seriously, Floobs seems to be a major drama Queen on this board. Whatever we can do to not trigger you, just let us know sweety.

Sorry for not getting off the jet after the brakes are parked (or set, or whatever the latest description is). My apologies if some part of your anatomy was unseemly irritated. We all realize your need to race off the jet, plane or machine to dump the FA's amongst our fine passengers of any given day even if the FA's are all 24 years old and 1/2 the passengers are ex violent felon residents of some place like FL.

Whatever we can do to help phuzzie, just let us know.

I like so called departures times posted by errand clerks sent to collect a bill. I could seriously GAF.

jcountry
10-12-2018, 08:17 PM
Talk about a ‘forward leaner’. You do realize you have some of the worst work rules in the industry? I’m sure Parker appreciates the extra effort though.

Fake News!

We have NO work rules!!

MySaabStory
10-12-2018, 08:35 PM
Tool.

You, not them.

Maybe them though. But surely you.

That was awesome!!!

Arado 234
10-14-2018, 06:12 AM
Do we still give out the Doug P award?

TJBrass
10-14-2018, 06:18 AM
Just code the delay as "Crew Apathy".



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