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814Pilot
10-28-2018, 09:41 AM
Latest rumor from the training department from instructors meetings is that they brought up getting the CRJ training program running again cause of scope limits on 76 seaters and apparently Delta wanting its regional partners to have both fleets to cover for one another.


TheWeatherman
10-28-2018, 10:12 AM
Latest rumor from the training department from instructors meetings is that they brought up getting the CRJ training program running again cause of scope limits on 76 seaters and apparently Delta wanting its regional partners to have both fleets to cover for one another.
omg, I couldn't imagine being forced upgraded into the 200

TheNotoriousPIC
10-28-2018, 10:45 AM
I wonder how they'll get people to fly them. Incentives or just start scheduling people for CRJ training? Or perhaps people can bid by seniority, in which case a lot of people who just finished getting typed in the 170 will face another round of type training.

Or best of all this idea is squashed.


amcnd
10-28-2018, 11:49 AM
Doubtful. Republicís first go at CRJís didnít go well.. easyer to get 175SCís. Or even get back into the E145 game...

ChopNDrop
10-28-2018, 01:06 PM
Latest rumor from the training department from instructors meetings is that they brought up getting the CRJ training program running again cause of scope limits on 76 seaters and apparently Delta wanting its regional partners to have both fleets to cover for one another.

Don't tempt me with a good time...:D

amcnd
10-28-2018, 03:40 PM
If the money is right Bedford may go for it. Who else is a CRJ operating thats not wholly owned (so they can fly for Delta) that can do it besides Wisky, SkyWest...

zondaracer
10-28-2018, 03:43 PM
If the money is right Bedford may go for it. Who else is a CRJ operating thats not wholly owned (so they can fly for Delta) that can do it besides Wisky, SkyWest...

Expressjet has CRJs and is not wholly owned.

KSCessnaDriver
10-28-2018, 03:44 PM
Expressjet has CRJs and is not wholly owned.

No reason for OO to give XJT/ASA more flying when they can take it themselves.

amcnd
10-28-2018, 03:54 PM
Expressjet has CRJs and is not wholly owned.

They just lost all there Delta flying... (ends January)

So besides the rumors of another airline lossing Delta. That leaves OO/ZW/Mesa.. (im not sure DL would go back to Mesa again)

DiveAndDrive
10-29-2018, 01:41 AM
... And Iím not sure of the relationship status between DL and ZW. DL and ZW had an AIP to codeshare together back in 2014/2015. Internal communication from ZWís CEO was along the lines of ďwe have an AIP to fly for Delta. There are just a few minor issues that have to be worked out, but weíre fully confident we can do itĒ. ZW had aircraft on the books. They were at Rockford getting the new ďoperated byĒ sticker slapped on and whatever else had to be done to accept a new aircraft. Literally 10 days after the letter from the CEO, the deal fell apart. So.... not sure if the proverbial bridge between ZW and DL is still there, or if it has been burned.

Ni7irs
10-29-2018, 03:29 AM
Arenít both the 145 and 200 out of production? What is the point of adding the 700 when itís the same seating capacity and you have the same scope issues?

DarkSideMoon
10-29-2018, 03:32 AM
They just lost all there Delta flying... (ends January)

So besides the rumors of another airline lossing Delta. That leaves OO/ZW/Mesa.. (im not sure DL would go back to Mesa again)

ZW still has 4 years on contract with United and not enough pilots to even come close to staffing the 65 airplanes they promised. No way they get a Delta contract.

ChopNDrop
10-29-2018, 04:31 AM
Arenít both the 145 and 200 out of production? What is the point of adding the 700 when itís the same seating capacity and you have the same scope issues?

This... could it be cheaper operating costs??? trying to low bid some of these contracts that are going to be available in the next couple of years??

Bloggs
10-29-2018, 08:57 AM
omg, I couldn't imagine being forced upgraded into the 200
https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1529/38/1529380433090.jpg

KCaviator
10-29-2018, 09:38 AM
For what itís worth, a couple mechanics in IND mentioned getting 700/900s.

Cobra Commander
10-29-2018, 02:41 PM
Anyone have any insight or wild speculation into how this would affect upgrade times or even be implemented? A few months ago I foolishly thought I had this whole regional airline thing figured out when I got a CJO. Now that the 100 aircraft order may or may not have fallen through and SW changed their pay rates...it looks like that is not the case.

I guess we'll just do it live! :D

chrisreedrules
10-29-2018, 03:07 PM
Anyone have any insight or wild speculation into how this would affect upgrade times or even be implemented? A few months ago I foolishly thought I had this whole regional airline thing figured out when I got a CJO. Now that the 100 aircraft order may or may not have fallen through and SW changed their pay rates...it looks like that is not the case.

I guess we'll just do it live! :D

Welcome to the regionals. Where things literally change almost quarterly. Yesterdayís heroís are tomorrowís zeros etc etc

V1Rot8t
10-29-2018, 03:25 PM
Anyone have any insight or wild speculation into how this would affect upgrade times or even be implemented? A few months ago I foolishly thought I had this whole regional airline thing figured out when I got a CJO. Now that the 100 aircraft order may or may not have fallen through and SW changed their pay rates...it looks like that is not the case.

I guess we'll just do it live! :D

Iím scheduled for Dec Indoc and they told me expect late January to come back to training. It seems like this maybe wonít be the case from others Iím hearing from...and that I should really expect March. I thought I was solid with the CJO from RAH, now Iím really thinking i should consider SkyWest with the new TA.... all the hiring at RAH and mention of CRJ fleet and still no real direction on the ERJ LOI (even though they parade it around as an order in the interview process). Just kinda has me scratching my head about my RAH decision at moment. I love the contract at RAH, but just seems like there are building questions about whatís going on and potentially an overstaffed situation.... welcome to Regionals huh, nothing is for certain I suppose. I think Iím gonna go interview at SW and see how their Kool-aide tastes.😜

Swagship
10-29-2018, 03:41 PM
This was kicked around a while back, when 9E was slated to get ERJs. That plan doesnít seem to be in the works anymore.

ChopNDrop
10-29-2018, 03:41 PM
I’m scheduled for Dec Indoc and they told me expect late January to come back to training. It seems like this maybe won’t be the case from others I’m hearing from...and that I should really expect March. I thought I was solid with the CJO from RAH, now I’m really thinking i should consider SkyWest with the new TA.... all the hiring at RAH and mention of CRJ fleet and still no real direction on the ERJ LOI (even though they parade it around as an order in the interview process). Just kinda has me scratching my head about my RAH decision at moment. I love the contract at RAH, but just seems like there are building questions about what’s going on and potentially an overstaffed situation.... welcome to Regionals huh, nothing is for certain I suppose. I think I’m gonna go interview at SW and see how their Kool-aide tastes.��


FWIW, I did the same thing you did and had CJOs from SkyWest, PSA, and RAH. What it came down to for me is the contract, QOL. I am not downplaying the other 2 in any way, and I am super happy for the guys and gals at OO to finally get a better contract, lord knows they've been due, but don't throw RAH out the door yet. I still believe, even with other airline contracts that have come out recently, the uncertainty of the 100 EJets, and the training delays, RAH is still the best company-overall-to work for on the regional level, today.

As far as the whole training delay.. I don't think guys understand how sweet a deal it is. You get your seniority number, pay, and free vacation to do what you'd like. Arguably, I don't see you (or anyone else) getting that much free vacation with pay the rest of our career.

Ultimately you do what is best for you, but don't let the rumor mill from APC affect your view on any airline.

TheWeatherman
10-29-2018, 03:52 PM
Be careful about overreacting to rumors, especially one as flimsy as this. You won't last long in this industry if you do.

Gravity88x
10-29-2018, 04:08 PM
Iím scheduled for Dec Indoc and they told me expect late January to come back to training. It seems like this maybe wonít be the case from others Iím hearing from...and that I should really expect March. I thought I was solid with the CJO from RAH, now Iím really thinking i should consider SkyWest with the new TA.... all the hiring at RAH and mention of CRJ fleet and still no real direction on the ERJ LOI (even though they parade it around as an order in the interview process). Just kinda has me scratching my head about my RAH decision at moment. I love the contract at RAH, but just seems like there are building questions about whatís going on and potentially an overstaffed situation.... welcome to Regionals huh, nothing is for certain I suppose. I think Iím gonna go interview at SW and see how their Kool-aide tastes.😜

Enjoy the CRJs and No union over there.

Dalda Erlines
10-29-2018, 04:35 PM
This was kicked around a while back, when 9E was slated to get ERJs. That plan doesnít seem to be in the works anymore.

I heard from a lady in the grocery store this morning that RAH was getting CRJs.

Mesabah
10-29-2018, 04:48 PM
This was kicked around a while back, when 9E was slated to get ERJs. That plan doesnít seem to be in the works anymore.Nobody knows what's happening, Delta said they want to shrink to three regionals, each flying both CRJs/ERJs. This plan has been on and off 100 times already.

05Duramax
10-29-2018, 04:54 PM
Anyone have any insight or wild speculation into how this would affect upgrade times or even be implemented? A few months ago I foolishly thought I had this whole regional airline thing figured out when I got a CJO. Now that the 100 aircraft order may or may not have fallen through and SW changed their pay rates...it looks like that is not the case.

I guess we'll just do it live! :D

I feel you, in the same boat too. Still hoping for the Compass purchase (tongue in cheek, pipe dream). Seems like picking a regional is like playing the lotto, seems like all the good regionals were yesterday's dogs.

DiveAndDrive
10-29-2018, 05:11 PM
So since weíre speculating, allow me to speculate on the speculation.

Since G7 flies for UA and DL, are we getting their flying and a larger ORD presence and a DEN crew base? When B.B. made his meet and greet at my indoc, he did say there are aircraft coming off contract in DEN. It could explain the level of hiring theyíre doing. That being said, I donít wish anything bad upon any pilot group, and Iím also just spitballing.

05Duramax
10-29-2018, 05:13 PM
So since weíre speculating, allow me to speculate on the speculation.

Since G7 flies for UA and DL, are we getting their flying and a larger ORD presence and a DEN crew base? When B.B. made his meet and greet at my indoc, he did say there are aircraft coming off contract in DEN. It could explain the level of hiring theyíre doing. That being said, I donít wish anything bad upon any pilot group, and Iím also just spitballing.

DEN base, love this rumor!!! Sign me up.

DiveAndDrive
10-29-2018, 05:20 PM
Hahah. Glad to be of service ;p

I just hope I can get my one ASE approach to minimums so I can scare the living crap out of myself and then never fly west of Kansas again.

05Duramax
10-29-2018, 06:14 PM
Hahah. Glad to be of service ;p

I just hope I can get my one ASE approach to minimums so I can scare the living crap out of myself and then never fly west of Kansas again.

That's kind of funny, all of my buddies never want to fly east of Kansas! Of course I counter with "you want the first time you go to O'Hare or LGA to be when you get to the majors"?

Viking6
10-30-2018, 04:00 AM
Hotel van driver in ATL confirmed the rumor this morning. Also three new west coast bases (TYR, MOT, and STL).

Captain Slow
10-30-2018, 05:32 AM
BB was seen in the training center yesterday, he said weíre buying a fleet of Caravans to operate on a 135 doing EAS routes, since the TSH deal fell through. Says itís easy money and a guaranteed profit stream. Nothing to lose.

Jungle Jim
10-30-2018, 06:55 AM
BB was seen in the training center yesterday, he said weíre buying a fleet of Caravans to operate on a 135 doing EAS routes, since the TSH deal fell through. Says itís easy money and a guaranteed profit stream. Nothing to lose.

Sounds like a good flow thru for Lift grads.

Longhornmaniac8
10-31-2018, 01:30 PM
Matt Koscal unequivocally said they're not interested in CRJs, for whatever it may be worth.

170driver
11-04-2018, 01:45 PM
Matt Koscal unequivocally said they're not interested in CRJs, for whatever it may be worth.



Definitely getting CRJs then...


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