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gavinjsouza
10-28-2018, 10:07 PM
Hi everyone!

I was hoping to get some suggestions for good two year colleges that incorporate flight training.

I'm looking to utilize my GI Bill for this. After getting a job at the regionals I'm hoping to use the remainder of my GI Bill for a bachelors degree in something non-aviation (if thats even possible).

Right now I'm stationed in San Diego and hoping to stay in SoCal. But I am open to moving as well. I've been looking into Big Bend Community College, Utah Valley University, and Glendale CC.

If anyone has experience with using their GI Bill this way or either of those schools your input would be appreciated as well!

I also have a decent amount of my gen-ed requirements done. Looking for a school that would allow me to stay full time throughout the summer and complete it as fast as possible.

Thanks!!:)


misterpretzel
10-28-2018, 11:19 PM
Utah Valley gets thrown around in threads quite often, and almost always seems to get positive feedback.

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midengineracer
10-29-2018, 04:40 AM
The FAA's website lists 141 schools (https://av-info.faa.gov/PilotSchool.asp), you should start there for schools that are going to qualify you for the R-ATP if that is one of your goals. Just because a school has a 141 flight training program DOES NOT mean they are going to qualify you for the R-ATP. My flight instructor can personally attest to that and I almost had that issue, it was a specific question I asked of the director of the flight program at the school I selected.

In California, the only school they had listed was San Diego Christian College (looks like 4 years only). I wanted out of CA as soon as possible, so I didn't research anything in Cali.

Cochise Community College in AZ (keeps you in the southwest) is a two year program on the FAA's list, they own/maintain their own fleet. I never got any opinions on them and decided to go to the east coast for my training immediately. However, AZ has great flying weather, so that will most likely not be the thing that slows down the flight portion of your training. I do not know if the flying is listed as a lab fee (paid by GI Bill) or a separate fee (paid for by you).

Community College of Baltimore County just received their 141 certification this year and their program lists the flight training as a lab fee.
Community College of Beaver County, Community College of Alleghany County, and Lehigh Carbon Community College are in PA, (Pennsylvania is icing country and gets some awesome cloud coverage, really can monkey with your flight training timeline, but the clouds are awesome for building actual instrument time after you get the private certificate).

Most of the other stuff I looked at was 4-year programs, but to qualify for the R-ATP, you must graduate with their degree or you get no credit towards the R-ATP. If you are in a head-long rush to the regionals, either select a fast track program (GI Bill won't pay for it all) or a 2-year and the CFI route. The additional 2 years for a BS only nets you another 250 hour reduction to the regionals, which you could have accomplished using CFI work in less than 6 months (3 at some of the busy schools, during their busy seasons). My flight instructor has enough time to apply to the regionals (without R-ATP) after flight instructing for about 14 months.

Further, not all programs include training for your private certificate in their program (and therefore on the GI Bill). That is a recent change (past 2 years), so research carefully. It changed right before I got out and sent me back to the drawing board for my plans, but I'm halfway through my commercial certificate now.


Lastly, look at the BAH rate for an E5 at each location you are considering, research housing and use that to help you decide as well as nearby military bases, if you still have base privileges when you get out.


155mm
10-29-2018, 06:17 AM
Utah Valley gets thrown around in threads quite often, and almost always seems to get positive feedback.

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I've known people that were put on a waiting list for 3 semesters to get the multi-commercial training part 141! I think the positive feedback comes from already made Regional pilots earning a degree online.

gavinjsouza
10-29-2018, 09:10 AM
The FAA's website lists 141 schools (https://av-info.faa.gov/PilotSchool.asp), you should start there for schools that are going to qualify you for the R-ATP if that is one of your goals. Just because a school has a 141 flight training program DOES NOT mean they are going to qualify you for the R-ATP. My flight instructor can personally attest to that and I almost had that issue, it was a specific question I asked of the director of the flight program at the school I selected.

In California, the only school they had listed was San Diego Christian College (looks like 4 years only). I wanted out of CA as soon as possible, so I didn't research anything in Cali.

Cochise Community College in AZ (keeps you in the southwest) is a two year program on the FAA's list, they own/maintain their own fleet. I never got any opinions on them and decided to go to the east coast for my training immediately. However, AZ has great flying weather, so that will most likely not be the thing that slows down the flight portion of your training. I do not know if the flying is listed as a lab fee (paid by GI Bill) or a separate fee (paid for by you).

Community College of Baltimore County just received their 141 certification this year and their program lists the flight training as a lab fee.
Community College of Beaver County, Community College of Alleghany County, and Lehigh Carbon Community College are in PA, (Pennsylvania is icing country and gets some awesome cloud coverage, really can monkey with your flight training timeline, but the clouds are awesome for building actual instrument time after you get the private certificate).

Most of the other stuff I looked at was 4-year programs, but to qualify for the R-ATP, you must graduate with their degree or you get no credit towards the R-ATP. If you are in a head-long rush to the regionals, either select a fast track program (GI Bill won't pay for it all) or a 2-year and the CFI route. The additional 2 years for a BS only nets you another 250 hour reduction to the regionals, which you could have accomplished using CFI work in less than 6 months (3 at some of the busy schools, during their busy seasons). My flight instructor has enough time to apply to the regionals (without R-ATP) after flight instructing for about 14 months.

Further, not all programs include training for your private certificate in their program (and therefore on the GI Bill). That is a recent change (past 2 years), so research carefully. It changed right before I got out and sent me back to the drawing board for my plans, but I'm halfway through my commercial certificate now.


Lastly, look at the BAH rate for an E5 at each location you are considering, research housing and use that to help you decide as well as nearby military bases, if you still have base privileges when you get out.

Thank you so much! This was very helpful.. didn't take my R-ATP into consideration. I'll check out that Arizona school.

misterpretzel
10-29-2018, 09:54 AM
I've known people that were put on a waiting list for 3 semesters to get the multi-commercial training part 141! I think the positive feedback comes from already made Regional pilots earning a degree online.Oooo you may be right

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155mm
10-29-2018, 11:05 AM
Oooo you may be right

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...but I agree, there seems to be a lot of positive feedback!



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