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11-07-2018, 06:20 PM
After lurking around these forums for a while, Iím finally going to post my own situation.

(Sorry for the wall of text I just spent like an hour and a half on this. Very confused, if you canít tell)

Iím at the time where I really need to decide what Iím going to do for a career. Thereís really no competition on what I want to do for work- be a pilot at an airline. Itís really the only career Iíve ever wanted, to be completely honest. But Iíve always been looking way too far ahead- like what kind of plane I would want to fly, with which airline. I now realize that I need to look into my training.

So Iíve narrowed it down to five ďschoolsĒ. ATP, Sevenair, Embry Riddle, Cadet Programs, or Independent Training.

My first option is ATP, who Iíve read a lot about on this forum and others. They seem really great for getting all your licenses quickly (my ideal path, honestly. I have no patience, which is a problem).

Next is Sevenair. Not sure if most of you have even heard of them. They are a training school in Portugal, who can get you from nothing, up to 500 hours with a frozen ATPL. They accept applicants from ages 17. I emailed them, asking if they take students from the US, and they told me that all their classes are in English, and that they can help me get a study Visa. The only downside to this school is that Iíll have a European licesnse.

And now, the infamous, Embry Riddle. They seem pretty great as well, I can get a bachelors degree, and get my
flight training at the same time. The problems are that Iíve read that the flight training isnít as good, because itís stretched out so long, you forget things. Also there are conflicting opinions on if a degree is even needed to be an airline pilot. Some say that itís a good fallback, some say itís necessary in order to go to some of the better airlines, and some say itís just a waste of time and flight hours are all that matters.. so yeah, even more confusion.

Then, there are cadet programs. JetBlue seems good, but it takes FOR EVER. Itís five years long I think. And then Iím sure I would be locked into the company for at least another 5. AA is about the same, from what Iíve seen on their site. But, thereís also some good looking cadet programs in Asia, Scoot has a good one, I believe. So Iím not really sure if one of these is a good idea in the first place.

Lastly, there is independent training. There are tons of places to train here in LA, so that might be a better option than all of these others. Again, I donít know.

I could also combine standard non- aviation college with independent training or ATP. Iíve also looked at military but the minimum service time is 8 years, right? Thatís too long for me.

Thank you, if you read all this. I just really need help narrowing down my options, and who better to ask, than people in the industry? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.

Terrain Inop
11-08-2018, 03:23 PM
ERAU is insanely expensive for what you get.
ATP doesn't have a collegiate partner that I'm aware of.
Look for a state school (ASU, Mt Sac) that has a flying program.
If their locations don't work look at Liberty.

Terrain Inop
11-08-2018, 03:24 PM
I just realized read your post. If you're in Socal look at Mt Sac in Walnut. They train out of Bracket field next to Pamona.

11-08-2018, 04:48 PM
Go to a community college that offers flight technology as a major (think of it as paying yourself a $100,000 signing bonus by choosing this option over riddle) and get your associates in aviation while you get your ratings.

Afterwards work as a CFI and get a bachelors degree (online is best as itís flexible and you can do work between students). Get the bachelors in business or something else to have as a back up if airline pilot doesnít pan out.

Then try to get on with the first operator that will give you pic turbine time.

11-08-2018, 08:51 PM
On March 3, 1969 the United States Navy established
an elite school for the top one percent of its pilots.
Its purpose was to teach the lost art or aerial combat
and to insure that the handful of men who graduated
were the best fighter pilots in the world.

They succeeded.

Today, the Navy calls it Fighter Weapons School.
The flyers call it:


11-08-2018, 10:02 PM
It'll also depend heavily on how you plan to fund your training

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11-09-2018, 07:54 AM
The JetBlue program is stupidly expensive, not worth it.

PT6 Flyer
11-09-2018, 08:55 AM
Go to a community college that offers flight technology as a major... Afterwards work as a CFI and get a bachelors degree...


Is there a benefit to getting a two-year-degree and a four-year-degree, as opposed to getting only a four-year-degree?

11-09-2018, 10:10 AM
Is there a benefit to getting a two-year-degree and a four-year-degree, as opposed to getting only a four-year-degree?Two diplomas. Make sure you have the wall space first. ;)

11-13-2018, 02:56 AM
Soon out of High School? Enough $$ to get started?

If airline pilot is what you want, Iíd go to a 4 yr school with a(Ďfast trackí) pilot program.

Oftentimes the Ďfallbackí career is more to do with the individual than any degree. What I mean by that is, a motivated individual will always have a job, regardless of the state of the economy.