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View Full Version : Best plane for commercial AMEL??


aluce63
11-13-2018, 08:22 AM
I have a question for all of the MEI's out there (or anyone who knows). I am looking to get my AMEL add on to a commercial ASEL, and I am wondering about the Seneca II PA-34-200T. In the ACS it says "The 'Limited to Center Thrust' limitation for the AMEL rating is issued to applicants who complete the practical test for the AMEL rating in an aircraft that does not have a manufacturer’s published VMC".

The seneca POH has a published Vmc as 66kts, but the right engine is a LTSIO-360E, which means it turns the prop to the left.

Wouldn't that eliminate the critical engine? Is this a good training option and would I have the "limited to center thrust" limitation? Thanks everyone :)


Terrain Inop
11-13-2018, 09:53 AM
No. Centerline thrust limitations would be issued if you took your practical in a Cessna 337. For the Seneca your critical engine becomes whichever one fails.

JohnBurke
11-13-2018, 01:05 PM
I have a question for all of the MEI's out there (or anyone who knows). I am looking to get my AMEL add on to a commercial ASEL, and I am wondering about the Seneca II PA-34-200T. In the ACS it says "The 'Limited to Center Thrust' limitation for the AMEL rating is issued to applicants who complete the practical test for the AMEL rating in an aircraft that does not have a manufacturer’s published VMC".

The seneca POH has a published Vmc as 66kts, but the right engine is a LTSIO-360E, which means it turns the prop to the left.

Wouldn't that eliminate the critical engine? Is this a good training option and would I have the "limited to center thrust" limitation? Thanks everyone :)

You answered your own question and then confused yourself. The centerline limitation is for aircraft that lack a minimum control speed (Vmca). The Seneca has a minimum control speed. Therefore the centerline limitation is irrelevant. The issue of a "critical engine" is also irrelevant.


joepilot
11-13-2018, 03:17 PM
You answered your own question and then confused yourself. The centerline limitation is for aircraft that lack a minimum control speed (Vmca). The Seneca has a minimum control speed. Therefore the centerline limitation is irrelevant. The issue of a "critical engine" is also irrelevant.

John is absolutely correct, however, if you use the Seneca for your checkride, you will no doubt be asked to explain the meaning of "critical engine" in excruciating detail during the oral.

Joe

TiredSoul
11-14-2018, 04:23 AM
The Seneca II is turbocharged and it will be difficult to find a school that has one.
Find something cheaper like a Seminole or a Dutchess before you go fancy.



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