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Hellafo
12-03-2018, 10:57 PM
Good morning,
In a couple weeks I will be heading to PRG, And I am strongly considering JS to any of the airports mentioned above. I don't think there are any direct flights on US cargo/acmi carriers, please correct me if I'm wrong.
My question is, are there any direct flights from MIA to those airports? Maybe Atlas?
So far all I got is, Southern to LEJ.
FEDEX to VIE.
Thank you!


sky jet
12-04-2018, 01:11 AM
Kalitta goes CVG to LEJ daily and sometimes twice a day. Call and ask them about the day you want to go.

middies10
12-04-2018, 07:16 AM
Good morning,
In a couple weeks I will be heading to PRG, And I am strongly considering JS to any of the airports mentioned above. I don't think there are any direct flights on US cargo/acmi carriers, please correct me if I'm wrong.
My question is, are there any direct flights from MIA to those airports? Maybe Atlas?
So far all I got is, Southern to LEJ.
FEDEX to VIE.
Thank you!

FWIW you can't JS internationally on Fedex if you are an offline pilot.


Whale Driver
12-09-2018, 07:08 AM
Atlas and Southern does CVG/LEJ, also Southern LAX/LEJ, Atlas MIA/AMS.

whalesurfer
12-09-2018, 01:07 PM
FWIW you can't JS internationally on Fedex if you are an offline pilot.

..same at ups. No reinforced cockpit doors.

Locke
12-09-2018, 01:16 PM
..same at ups. No reinforced cockpit doors.

Is that really the reason for that policy? Seems strange since K4 doesn’t have them either and we allow international jumpseating.

Is it still fallout from Auburn Calloway?

whalesurfer
12-09-2018, 02:06 PM
Is that really the reason for that policy? Seems strange since K4 doesn’t have them either and we allow international jumpseating.

Is it still fallout from Auburn Calloway?

Not sure, could be but who knows?
Supposedly fdx and ups were the driving force for cass after 9/11. If you remember, initially tsa wanted to eliminate jumpseating altogether and make it more like Europe where the jumpseat is used for checkrides, faa events, etc..

However, airlines knew a large percentage of their pilots commuted so they all came up with a compromise and got cass approved. ..for domestic flights only.
Then they allowed international jumpseats again IF you worked for that airline.

For offline jumpseating passenger airlines use non-rev policies. So when I ‘jumpseat’ on United or Delta to Europe or Asia (I’m offline) I actually ‘non-rev’ in the back since I can’t ride in the cockpit. Prior to 9/11 I could.

Since then there have been many changes to cass and to international j/s rules. For whatever reason though non-skeds are still the only ones I know of that are allowed to take jumpseaters on international legs? Don’t think you’ll ever see that at fdx or ups. Not sure what the real reason is..

nitefr8dog
12-09-2018, 02:19 PM
Not sure, could be but who knows?
Supposedly fdx and ups were the driving force for cass after 9/11. If you remember, initially tsa wanted to eliminate jumpseating altogether and make it more like Europe where the jumpseat is used for checkrides, faa events, etc..

However, airlines knew a large percentage of their pilots commuted so they all came up with a compromise and got cass approved. ..for domestic flights only.
Then they allowed international jumpseats again IF you worked for that airline.

For offline jumpseating passenger airlines use non-rev policies. So when I ‘jumpseat’ on United or Delta to Europe or Asia (I’m offline) I actually ‘non-rev’ in the back since I can’t ride in the cockpit. Prior to 9/11 I could.

Since then there have been many changes to cass and to international j/s rules. For whatever reason though non-skeds are still the only ones I know of that are allowed to take jumpseaters on international legs? Don’t think you’ll ever see that at fdx or ups. Not sure what the real reason is..
Could be a negotiated item... as in what are you willing to give up if you want them. I know a few yrs back we had quite a few guys riding our JS back and forth on 4 day layovers in CYVR and MMTY. We got into a ****ing match about something and the company who ultimately controls all the JS put an end to it.



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