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BarrySeal
12-11-2018, 12:22 PM
Article:


https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/business/Amazon-Air-to-Hire-Hundreds-at-New-Alliance-Airport-Hub-502487152.html?fbclid=IwAR0Q-H3xrwPOZHdagbHmZb7BMgcvCMmUZ9ZF7yeUae4-pBwG2wFtax-2vlU





The online retailer announced Tuesday construction has already begun on a hub at Fort Worth's Alliance Airport to serve Amazon Air -- the company's dedicated air cargo network (https://blog.aboutamazon.com/transportation/introducing-amazon-one) -- that will bring with it hundreds of new jobs.


The Regional Air Hub at Alliance is the first airport project of its kind in the Amazon Air network and "will be tailored specifically to Amazon Air's larger scale regional needs ... constructed with the future in mind to include sortation capability and infrastructure to handle multiple flights dailiy."
The hub, which is being built on the west side of the airport according to a report by The Dallas Morning News (https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2018/12/11/amazon-chooses-fort-worths-alliance-airport-regional-air-hub-hundreds-jobs), is expected to be operational in 2019, officials said.


“We are excited to build a brand new facility from the ground up at the Fort Worth Alliance Airport,” said Sarah Rhoads, Director of Amazon Air. “The new facility is the first of its kind for us and we’re thrilled to ensure we have the capacity to continue to delight our customers.”


Amazon currently operates 40 aircraft in its fleet at over 20 gateways across the country. A central air hub will be opened at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

“We are pleased to grow our partnership with Amazon here at Alliance,” said Bill Burton, executive vice president at Hillwood, the developer. “As one of the world’s most influential retail, technology and supply chain logistics companies, Amazon’s selection of Fort Worth Alliance Airport will continue to transform the airport’s role within the region.”

(https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2018/12/11/amazon-chooses-fort-worths-alliance-airport-regional-air-hub-hundreds-jobs)



Question: Will this result in a "Pilot Base" at AFW ? Is this Prime Air or another company (Amazon themselves, aka Amazon employee-Pilots?) doing this ?


nitefr8dog
12-11-2018, 12:29 PM
Article:


https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/business/Amazon-Air-to-Hire-Hundreds-at-New-Alliance-Airport-Hub-502487152.html?fbclid=IwAR0Q-H3xrwPOZHdagbHmZb7BMgcvCMmUZ9ZF7yeUae4-pBwG2wFtax-2vlU





Question: Will this result in a "Pilot Base" at AFW ? Is this Prime Air or another company (Amazon themselves, aka Amazon employee-Pilots?) doing this ?
There are no Amazon/Prime Air pilots.
All subcontracted out.

Riverside
12-11-2018, 01:03 PM
Article:


https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/business/Amazon-Air-to-Hire-Hundreds-at-New-Alliance-Airport-Hub-502487152.html?fbclid=IwAR0Q-H3xrwPOZHdagbHmZb7BMgcvCMmUZ9ZF7yeUae4-pBwG2wFtax-2vlU





Question: Will this result in a "Pilot Base" at AFW ? Is this Prime Air or another company (Amazon themselves, aka Amazon employee-Pilots?) doing this ?

You must be new.


BarrySeal
12-11-2018, 01:36 PM
You must be new.


No, I am not new, nothing says Amazon does not have plans for form their own Amazon cargo airline. How do you think UPS Air Cargo got started ?


You must be, uh, new

GeelErmo
12-11-2018, 01:37 PM
Same stupid question over and over again!!! Do research ppl.

Jurassic Jet
12-11-2018, 01:38 PM
There are no Amazon/Prime Air pilots.

Maybe the A(mazon) Transport International skygod ultra cool dudes can get some PrimeAir Crew - FTW Base bag tags? :confused:

Riverside
12-11-2018, 01:57 PM
No, I am not new, nothing says Amazon does not have plans for form their own Amazon cargo airline. How do you think UPS Air Cargo got started ?


You must be, uh, new

Wow, you must have done research. Would have been nice if you spent that energy doing a search before creating this thread. Alas...you must be new.

BarrySeal
12-11-2018, 02:06 PM
Wow, you must have done research. Would have been nice if you spent that energy doing a search before creating this thread. Alas...you must be new.


haha....


thanks for the info

BoilerUP
12-11-2018, 02:20 PM
Lessee...

Rockford
Ontario
Alliance

Its almostblike a CVS going up on the opposite corner of a Walgreens...

Reactivity
12-11-2018, 08:48 PM
No, I am not new, nothing says Amazon does not have plans for form their own Amazon cargo airline. How do you think UPS Air Cargo got started ?


Look around at Amazon's modus operandi. How much do they actually do themselves, and how much is done by contractors?

The only way Amazon becomes another UPS is if they decide to become major players in the express shipping business and the FAA makes them do it. Even then, look at DHL - they're a fairly large operation in this country, and they have at least seven different airlines contracted.

cargofast
12-12-2018, 12:54 AM
Lessee...

Rockford
Ontario
Alliance

Its almostblike a CVS going up on the opposite corner of a Walgreens...


A more accurate analogy would be Home Depot paying a guy in a trench coat to stand next to a Walgreens and sell Cialis.

nitefr8dog
12-12-2018, 08:07 AM
Lessee...

Rockford
Ontario
Alliance

Its almostblike a CVS going up on the opposite corner of a Walgreens...
That might be the only thing they are doing right...there is a good reason there are other big players at those locations.

Airplaneflyer11
12-12-2018, 11:33 AM
Question: Will this result in a "Pilot Base" at AFW ? Is this Prime Air or another company (Amazon themselves, aka Amazon employee-Pilots?) doing this ?

Hey Barry, Thanks for your question. For what it's worth the ACMI world for the Prime Air banner is nothing short of a dumpster fire. At the moment ATI is doing a bit of flying under the ATSG umbrella as the ABX pilots are still being punished for the strike so we have a bit less than what the original gentleman's agreement had for us (Note: Never make a gentleman's agreement with ATSG). Also Atlas is doing a bit of the flying as well. I'd say between those two that is who you will see in AFW as Amazon is all about marketing and very little overhead (i.e. an airline with union pilots) so of course it will be Amazon painted airplanes and definitely NOT an ABX colored airplane. SO that being said there will not be a pilot because the resultant dumpster fire from poor management decisions (Which in my opinion is also coming from Amazon) has left all the airlines with the inability to expand pilot bases let alone maintain what they are barely holding onto. Hope this helps. Also, doing some picking around on APC will reveal just how out of control the dumpster fire is. Being in it I can't say it's embellished much and most all the ACMI's working for AMZ and DHL are pretty disgruntled in an epic way.

WingOffLight
12-13-2018, 11:45 AM
Its pretty amazing on how these stories get embellished.

1) Amazon doesn’t like dealing with main hubspoke type airports. They dont like the traffic.

2) They have been trying to get off that FedEx ramp for a while but there is no where to go for that area.

Besides at the rate they move Ill be dead and everyone on here retired. How is that Amazon mega sort coming along in CVG?

Tango Uniform
12-18-2018, 08:42 AM
Look around at Amazon's modus operandi. How much do they actually do themselves, and how much is done by contractors?

The only way Amazon becomes another UPS is if they decide to become major players in the express shipping business and the FAA makes them do it. Even then, look at DHL - they're a fairly large operation in this country, and they have at least seven different airlines contracted.


Amazon has hired away a number of people away from UPS. A few years back they had no assets for logistics. Then they got planes, then they got trailers. Now they have package cars. They still use contractors to fly and drive. I imagine it will be like UPS where the infrastructure is being built and then they will bring everything in house. Who knows maybe like FDX ground model and subcontract. Either way its growing very fast. I expect Amazon to fill space from forwarders and pick up the USPS contract. Either way they are growing quickly.

Rolloutflare
12-18-2018, 09:02 AM
Amazon has hired away a number of people away from UPS. A few years back they had no assets for logistics. Then they got planes, then they got trailers. Now they have package cars. They still use contractors to fly and drive. I imagine it will be like UPS where the infrastructure is being built and then they will bring everything in house. Who knows maybe like FDX ground model and subcontract. Either way its growing very fast. I expect Amazon to fill space from forwarders and pick up the USPS contract. Either way they are growing quickly.

With the amount of money they have. Maybe they will just buy FedEx, UPS, or just bribe Congress and ship ultra cheap USPS.

JackStraw
12-18-2018, 09:13 AM
Amazon has hired away a number of people away from UPS. A few years back they had no assets for logistics. Then they got planes, then they got trailers. Now they have package cars. They still use contractors to fly and drive. I imagine it will be like UPS where the infrastructure is being built and then they will bring everything in house. Who knows maybe like FDX ground model and subcontract. Either way its growing very fast. I expect Amazon to fill space from forwarders and pick up the USPS contract. Either way they are growing quickly.

They will never bring anything in-house. They operate on thin margins and make money by selling products on a massive scale and contracting out cheap labor to fulfill their deliveries. An in-house delivery system isn’t in their business model.

Lockheed
12-18-2018, 09:22 AM
How is that Amazon mega sort coming along in CVG?

Exactly.....

nitefr8dog
12-18-2018, 01:08 PM
With the amount of money they have. Maybe they will just buy FedEx, UPS, or just bribe Congress and ship ultra cheap USPS.
That could work......except they have modeled themselves after DHL and so far neither one has a clue what they are doing. Sure DHL is hugh....but my guess is their costs to ship are twice as much as FedEx or UPS. Its a clown show every night. I have had Amazon drivers show up in a 80's Continental with bald tires and no exhaust. It's like a Chevy Chase movie driving to Wally World.

Reactivity
12-18-2018, 02:54 PM
How is that Amazon mega sort coming along in CVG?

Nothing that involves an Indian burial ground ever goes well.

DC8DRIVER
12-18-2018, 05:40 PM
Question: Will this result in a "Pilot Base" at AFW ? Is this Prime Air or another company (Amazon themselves, aka Amazon employee-Pilots?) doing this ?

Barry, don't know why these guys aren't helping you out ... Here's a start for you:

Amazon Prime Air
Amazon Corporate Headquarters
410 Terry Ave N, Seattle, WA 98109
Chief Pilot is Jeff something (can't recall last name, sorry)

Anyway, I hear they are hiring DE captains but only for a couple more months, so I'd get your resume in there ASAP if you qualify for left seat. Otherwise, consider walking your resume in there in person. I've heard that worked for some guys.

Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

lthompson020
12-19-2018, 03:34 AM
Barry, don't know why these guys aren't helping you out ... Here's a start for you:

Amazon Prime Air
Amazon Corporate Headquarters
410 Terry Ave N, Seattle, WA 98109
Chief Pilot is Jeff something (can't recall last name, sorry)

Anyway, I hear they are hiring DE captains but only for a couple more months, so I'd get your resume in there ASAP if you qualify for left seat. Otherwise, consider walking your resume in there in person. I've heard that worked for some guys.


Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

You Sir, won the internet today.



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