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boeingdvr
12-21-2018, 04:53 AM
Reserve is senior at AAWW. Why ? It's the only way to break 62 hours.

So if you want to hold a line, come on over to AAWW and fly just enough to not break 62 hours. Red eyes too !!

We are hiring.


RyeMex
12-21-2018, 05:23 AM
Atlas Air: the first time you will pay money (out of your paycheck) to fly an airplane since flight school!

JohnBurke
12-21-2018, 07:14 AM
I'm curious (in a rhetorical way); the only posts I see the original poster making are baiting posts done in half-hearted irony with the sole purpose of whining about Atlas.

If the goal is to fire up sympathy and alert the world to your sad state, then well done, we're all in tears for you.

Other than that, what do you hope to accomplish? Same drivel every time: look how bad it is here, nobody come here, evil, evil, evil.

You start threads on the subject, you bust into other threads and post the same material. Atlas is a bad place, life is stagnant, there's nothing desirable here, all couched in the same sanguine "we need pilots" rhetoric.

Just entertainment, or a pity party that all will be subject to forever more?

So long as you're going to sing the death song, you might as well get in tune with the ABX guys and start posting a lot more of it; presently 90% of what gets posted is them, circling the drain and making sure the world watches with heavy hearts and tears aplenty and they float belly to the sky in an epic slow motion tragic event only to be matched by the fall of Rome.

Summed up: ABX bad. Atlas bad. ATI...wait for it.


boeingdvr
12-21-2018, 07:15 AM
Not at all. I love it here !

We are hiring and need pilots.

JackStraw
12-21-2018, 07:27 AM
I love it at Atlas, too! If I could be gone 20 days for 55 hours of pay each month I would jump all over it, but sadly I’m only gone 19 and the company keeps paying me 62! It’s great! Please apply! We are hiring even if you don’t have an ATP...

GET PAID TO FLYYYYYY!!!

DC8DRIVER
12-21-2018, 09:08 AM
I'm curious (in a rhetorical way); the only posts I see the original poster making are baiting posts done in half-hearted irony with the sole purpose of whining about Atlas.

If the goal is to fire up sympathy and alert the world to your sad state, then well done, we're all in tears for you.

Other than that, what do you hope to accomplish? Same drivel every time: look how bad it is here, nobody come here, evil, evil, evil.

You start threads on the subject, you bust into other threads and post the same material. Atlas is a bad place, life is stagnant, there's nothing desirable here, all couched in the same sanguine "we need pilots" rhetoric.

Just entertainment, or a pity party that all will be subject to forever more?

So long as you're going to sing the death song, you might as well get in tune with the ABX guys and start posting a lot more of it; presently 90% of what gets posted is them, circling the drain and making sure the world watches with heavy hearts and tears aplenty and they float belly to the sky in an epic slow motion tragic event only to be matched by the fall of Rome.

Summed up: ABX bad. Atlas bad. ATI...wait for it.

I'm curious (in a rhetorical way); the only posts I see JB making are those that say that other people's opinions are wrong. Why is that?

If the goal is to alert the world to your distain for people who pass on their discontent and job frustrations, then well done, we're all in awe of you.

Other than that, what do you hope to accomplish? Same drivel every time: look how how wrong you are, I now better. Me, me. me.

You bust into other threads and post the same stuff. As an "expert on everything" you appear in virtually every thread on APC telling others how much you know about everything and that other opinions are wrong. And eventually you will come up with the inevitable question "If you don't like it there, why don't you just leave?" which is just about the most asinine question that has ever graced these pages, yet seems to be unfailingly popular with those who question a pilot's criticism of their situation. It seems that you just can't abide people being critical and wanting to share their opinions with pilots who want to hear from current employees.

Just entertainment, or an ego party that all will be subject to forever more?

How about this: You share your opinions and let others have their opinions but don't tell them that their opinions are wrong. Just because you have a different point of view doesn't make theirs any less valid. Try agreeing with people once in a while or at least let the others have their say without telling them that they don't know what they are talking about.

JohnBurke
12-21-2018, 09:54 AM
I'm curious (in a rhetorical way); the only posts I see JB making are those that say that other people's opinions are wrong. Why is that?


Because you have an agenda. Because you only read a fraction of what I write. Because you see what you want to see.

Quite possibly because you have a reading comprehension problem.

nitefr8dog
12-21-2018, 10:37 AM
I'm curious (in a rhetorical way); the only posts I see JB making are those that say that other people's opinions are wrong. Why is that?

If the goal is to alert the world to your distain for people who pass on their discontent and job frustrations, then well done, we're all in awe of you.

Other than that, what do you hope to accomplish? Same drivel every time: look how how wrong you are, I now better. Me, me. me.

You bust into other threads and post the same stuff. As an "expert on everything" you appear in virtually every thread on APC telling others how much you know about everything and that other opinions are wrong. And eventually you will come up with the inevitable question "If you don't like it there, why don't you just leave?" which is just about the most asinine question that has ever graced these pages, yet seems to be unfailingly popular with those who question a pilot's criticism of their situation. It seems that you just can't abide people being critical and wanting to share their opinions with pilots who want to hear from current employees.

Just entertainment, or an ego party that all will be subject to forever more?

How about this: You share your opinions and let others have their opinions but don't tell them that their opinions are wrong. Just because you have a different point of view doesn't make theirs any less valid. Try agreeing with people once in a while or at least let the others have their say without telling them that they don't know what they are talking about.
Well said!

DC8DRIVER
12-21-2018, 10:50 AM
Because you have an agenda. Because you only read a fraction of what I write. Because you see what you want to see.

Quite possibly because you have a reading comprehension problem.

My agenda is to speak the truth as I see it to people who are looking for an informed opinion.

Your agenda is to tell others that their opinion is wrong. And a single post of yours is representative of the vast majority of what you write. On virtually every thread here. It is contrary and disparaging 99% of the time.

Apparently others comprehend all of this just as well as I do, but keep on insulting me to prove that I'm wrong.

JohnBurke
12-21-2018, 02:56 PM
Your opinion is wrong.

And irrelevant.

PotatoChip
12-21-2018, 05:21 PM
I'm curious (in a rhetorical way); the only posts I see JB making are those that say that other people's opinions are wrong. Why is that?

If the goal is to alert the world to your distain for people who pass on their discontent and job frustrations, then well done, we're all in awe of you.

Other than that, what do you hope to accomplish? Same drivel every time: look how how wrong you are, I now better. Me, me. me.

You bust into other threads and post the same stuff. As an "expert on everything" you appear in virtually every thread on APC telling others how much you know about everything and that other opinions are wrong. And eventually you will come up with the inevitable question "If you don't like it there, why don't you just leave?" which is just about the most asinine question that has ever graced these pages, yet seems to be unfailingly popular with those who question a pilot's criticism of their situation. It seems that you just can't abide people being critical and wanting to share their opinions with pilots who want to hear from current employees.

Just entertainment, or an ego party that all will be subject to forever more?

How about this: You share your opinions and let others have their opinions but don't tell them that their opinions are wrong. Just because you have a different point of view doesn't make theirs any less valid. Try agreeing with people once in a while or at least let the others have their say without telling them that they don't know what they are talking about.

Hahahah!!!
He IS the resident expert on.... everything.
And one of the most condescending posters, no, the most condescending poster Iíve ever read.

JonnyKnoxville
12-21-2018, 05:39 PM
I'm curious (in a rhetorical way); the only posts I see JB making are those that say that other people's opinions are wrong. Why is that?

If the goal is to alert the world to your distain for people who pass on their discontent and job frustrations, then well done, we're all in awe of you.

Other than that, what do you hope to accomplish? Same drivel every time: look how how wrong you are, I now better. Me, me. me.

You bust into other threads and post the same stuff. As an "expert on everything" you appear in virtually every thread on APC telling others how much you know about everything and that other opinions are wrong. And eventually you will come up with the inevitable question "If you don't like it there, why don't you just leave?" which is just about the most asinine question that has ever graced these pages, yet seems to be unfailingly popular with those who question a pilot's criticism of their situation. It seems that you just can't abide people being critical and wanting to share their opinions with pilots who want to hear from current employees.

Just entertainment, or an ego party that all will be subject to forever more?

How about this: You share your opinions and let others have their opinions but don't tell them that their opinions are wrong. Just because you have a different point of view doesn't make theirs any less valid. Try agreeing with people once in a while or at least let the others have their say without telling them that they don't know what they are talking about.

HAHA...awesome!

Elevation
12-21-2018, 07:35 PM
Previous exchanges aside, reserve on the 767 is the best way to make credit-hours.

On the 747 as an FO I usually broke about 80 credit hours per month without open-time trips, etc. I averaged it once and came out with 83 credit hours/month. I know some others experience less than this. Base selection, bid preferences, etc. all play a role here.

boeingdvr
12-22-2018, 03:42 AM
Because you have an agenda. Because you only read a fraction of what I write. Because you see what you want to see.

Quite possibly because you have a reading comprehension problem.

An agenda... that's laughable. Why are you so butt hurt ?

I only post the truth, no emotional non sense.

Atlas is hiring ! We need pilots !

We get paid 62 hours of min pay, and if you fail bidding you can be out for 40 days at a crack.

Come to Atlas and see for yourself!

JohnBurke
12-22-2018, 04:23 PM
We get paid 62 hours of min pay, and if you fail bidding you can be out for 40 days at a crack.

Come to Atlas and see for yourself!

Young guy, millennial, first ACMI job, first time in a large airplane, huh?

DC8DRIVER
12-22-2018, 07:17 PM
Young guy, millennial, first ACMI job, first time in a large airplane, huh?

Again with the insults? It's Christmas, give it a rest. Get into the holiday spirit.

ChickenChicken
12-22-2018, 09:23 PM
Only a few companies care if you can fly these days, the majority care more about the boxes you checked on the application. Omni is the exception, they actually hire pilots.

boeingdvr
12-23-2018, 02:58 AM
Young guy, millennial, first ACMI job, first time in a large airplane, huh?

No sir... and why would that matter. Atlas pays all their pilots equally. Young, old, regardless of color, weight, and experience. We all have the luxury of 62 hours and weeks and weeks on the road.

Merry Christmas 🎄 ( I hope that's not offensive)

JohnBurke
12-23-2018, 07:41 AM
Again with the insults? It's Christmas, give it a rest. Get into the holiday spirit.

Interesting that you'd find any of those things an insult.

FR8Dog7
12-23-2018, 08:02 AM
Interesting that you'd find any of those things an insult.

I think it is more of the "attitude" of the writing.

FollowMe
12-23-2018, 08:02 AM
Interesting that you'd find any of those things an insult.

Iím guessing it was your smarmy tone that was the insult.

itsjustajob
12-23-2018, 08:33 AM
All whining and crying aside, Atlas exists (no pun intended) as a polar opposite to every other airline in respect to pay.

Next month iíve got a whopping 64 hours of credit...and Iím a 12+ year Captain, just work extra you say? No thanks, but my bull**** bucket is filled to the brim after 5 days of flying here.

I have no soft time work rules to rely on, effectively I live on a ďsalaryĒ scheme aka the Atlas CBA.

Salary? Yeah, if you Fly 14 hours, You only get paid 4.85. New Hires are shocked to learn this after accepting the job! I guess reading and comprehension are low on the prerequisiteís to work here.

Unless I work 19+ days, and all of them away from home/base, and only then do I come close to approaching 2nd and 3rd year compensation at FO pay at any other major on a narrow body.

Truth be told a lot of the guys who hired on recently were expecting big news from Amazon and Atlas regarding CVG. Frankly thatís whatís filling classes!

Alas, this past week with ATSG getting up to 40% ownership by Amazon crushed their hopes.

Making matters even worse, Atlas stock is tanking, all the warrants they had at $37.50 are now pixie dust as the stock is now trading at $36 and in a continued spiral out of control.

Bull **** and contracts aside, Wall Street, Purchase and Amazon are revealing that Atlas may not be the darling so many new hires thought it to be, and now ATI appears to have been the better bet if aligning with Amazon was their career goal.

Connie is still hiring at mega ACMI rates with nearly assured upgrade times of less than 24 months.

Atlas, well it just continues to flounder, demanding more and the pilots just continue to be groomed to expect less.

CallmeJB
12-23-2018, 08:45 AM
In 2016, the existing Amazon flying was announced at ATSG first, and hopes and dreams at Atlas were dashed. Then weeks later the Atlas flying for Amazon was announced.

I don't know why ATSG announces flying immediately and Atlas keeps customer agreements closer to the vest, but that's just how it is.

I'm not saying everything is rainbows and unicorns, but let's wait until the end of Q1 until concluding that ATSG is the chosen child.