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calmwinds
01-07-2019, 05:20 AM
Over at Mesa, we are looking at transitioning to Charts+. Someone posted Air Wisconsin uses the charts.

Is this true? If so, what has been your experience? Charts+ seems to consume more battery power than Jepp. How are you compensating for that? Portal batteries? Flight deck power?


mcat
01-07-2019, 05:58 AM
They suck compared to Jepp, but you get used to it. Uses about the same amount of battery as the jepp app in my opinion. We are required by the FAA to have a backup battery. No power in our -200.

calmwinds
01-07-2019, 07:10 AM
Company issued backup battery? Did they leave ownship active? The way they reduced power consumption on the Jepp was to turn the GPS off.


DarkSideMoon
01-07-2019, 08:46 AM
Company issued backup battery? Did they leave ownship active? The way they reduced power consumption on the Jepp was to turn the GPS off.

Yes. No GPS in our iPads. They seem to suck battery way faster than JeppFD but maybe itís just me. A 12 hour duty day with judicious screen locking seems to burn about 90% of the battery. Seems like itís sucking up a lot of juice for basically being a glorified PDF reader but thatís just me.

squib
01-15-2019, 01:02 PM
Yes. No GPS in our iPads. They seem to suck battery way faster than JeppFD but maybe it’s just me. A 12 hour duty day with judicious screen locking seems to burn about 90% of the battery. Seems like it’s sucking up a lot of juice for basically being a glorified PDF reader but that’s just me.

Apparently your judicious screen locking isn't so good. I can go the first two 12 hour duty days and end at 88%

CanWeGetTheLeft
01-17-2019, 07:11 PM
Apparently your judicious screen locking isn't so good. I can go the first two 12 hour duty days and end at 88%

I can make it through two 12 hour duty days with a 30 minute FDP extension on the first and a 2 hour FDP extension on the second and end at 89%.

squib
01-18-2019, 04:48 AM
I can make it through two 12 hour duty days with a 30 minute FDP extension on the first and a 2 hour FDP extension on the second and end at 89%.

If you denied both those extensions like everyone should you wouldnít need to charge for day 3.

CanWeGetTheLeft
01-18-2019, 08:23 AM
If you denied both those extensions like everyone should you wouldnít need to charge for day 3.

OH MAN, Iíve been doing it ALL WRONG!

So you just tell them no every single time you get an FDP extension? Thatís awesome. Iíve never met anyone here that has never accepted an extension, ever, even a 30 minute one. But you just say no? Every time? Since everyone should?

So cool.

squib
01-18-2019, 10:54 AM
OH MAN, Iíve been doing it ALL WRONG!

So you just tell them no every single time you get an FDP extension? Thatís awesome. Iíve never met anyone here that has never accepted an extension, ever, even a 30 minute one. But you just say no? Every time? Since everyone should?

So cool.

Must be even cooler to have talked to every pilot on property about whether or not theyíve accepted an extension. Fatigued and hotel. They wanna build schedules that are 20 minutes shy of max FDP to begin they can deal with the consequences. Not my problem. The rules were written for a reason and science backs the fact that decision making deteriorates beyond those periods defined in 117. Maybe we wouldnít have 5 leg 12 hour days if it started becoming a duty issue for crews. Mainline doesnít take extensions. Itís regional bull****.

CanWeGetTheLeft
01-18-2019, 11:53 AM
Must be even cooler to have talked to every pilot on property about whether or not theyíve accepted an extension. Fatigued and hotel. They wanna build schedules that are 20 minutes shy of max FDP to begin they can deal with the consequences. Not my problem. The rules were written for a reason and science backs the fact that decision making deteriorates beyond those periods defined in 117. Maybe we wouldnít have 5 leg 12 hour days if it started becoming a duty issue for crews. Mainline doesnít take extensions. Itís regional bull****.

So you never accept an extension, and just fatigue out EVERY time?

https://media.giphy.com/media/EouEzI5bBR8uk/200w.gif

squib
01-20-2019, 10:32 AM
So you never accept an extension, and just fatigue out EVERY time?

https://media.giphy.com/media/EouEzI5bBR8uk/200w.gif

Maybe you should try it once in a while. Or just follow the herd and fly terrible unsafe schedules.

CanWeGetTheLeft
01-20-2019, 01:47 PM
Maybe you should try it once in a while. Or just follow the herd and fly terrible unsafe schedules.

So, just to be clear, not one extension for you? Ever?

squib
01-21-2019, 07:19 AM
So, just to be clear, not one extension for you? Ever?

I never said that. When the rules were new and open to interpretation it happened. Present day, no thanks.