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boeingdvr
01-11-2019, 10:54 AM
Just left the LCA meetings. Lots of new hire classes this year.

Company is offering $1600 a month for 4 months, the 50 hour min guarantee for your first year.

All new hires going to ANC on the -400.


Riverside
01-11-2019, 11:21 AM
Maybe you can teach them how to bid. Cause you didn't teach your buddy that.

JetLaged
01-11-2019, 11:25 AM
Dreams really do come true then. Do you supply the form for food stamps during indoc as well?


boeingdvr
01-11-2019, 11:48 AM
Maybe you can teach them how to bid. Cause you didn't teach your buddy that.

Not sure if you're an atlas pilot. But, if you saw our bidding system, and how its very easy to not line up the selections with the lines.

Also we have an auto number system, in which you need to disable, if you need to make a change.

But, if you don't believe me, why don't you come see for yourself.

Vital Signs
01-12-2019, 05:10 AM
$1600/month??
I made more than that teaching in C-152ís 30 years ago.

Riverside
01-12-2019, 05:12 AM
Not sure if you're an atlas pilot. But, if you saw our bidding system, and how its very easy to not line up the selections with the lines.

Also we have an auto number system, in which you need to disable, if you need to make a change.

But, if you don't believe me, why don't you come see for yourself.

Why would I? Especially when I make more at K4.

captjns
01-12-2019, 06:06 AM
Company is offering $1600 a month for 4 months, the 50 hour min guarantee for your first year.

With the hiring frenzy thatís going on today?:eek: Inconceivable :eek:

boeingdvr
01-12-2019, 03:52 PM
Why would I? Especially when I make more at K4.

Great... today you make more. Good for you and your team over there !

Colt45
01-12-2019, 04:18 PM
Why would I? Especially when I make more at K4.

Really? Kinda bragging I guess.

Riverside
01-12-2019, 04:39 PM
Really? Kinda bragging I guess.

Bragging would be posting my pay stubs. Getting asked to work for Atlas is priceless.

DC8DRIVER
01-12-2019, 05:19 PM
Bragging would be posting my pay stubs. Getting asked to work for Atlas is priceless.

Just a classy guy with nothing better to do than to come over to the Atlas threads and brag that he makes more than Atlas pilots. What kind of person does that?

What a wonderful use of time and energy. Belittling others.

wow ...

FYI, most Atlas guys I know are not only well aware that Kalitta has a good contract these days, but are happy that they do. In fact, we promote aspiring pilots to go there in lieu of coming to Atlas.

Yet, even a good contract is not enough for some people for whom it is necessary to get online and degrade pilots who do virtually the exact same kind of flying by rubbing our noses in the fact that we are struggling under bad work rules and difficult contract negotiations.

sky jet
01-13-2019, 06:39 AM
Why would I? Especially when I make more at K4.

Grow up. In October of 2016 we were some of the lowest payed in the industry and were wondering if we would ever see a new contract after over six years of negotiations. This business is like the player on Wheel of Fortune with $8000 and half of a car. The next spin of the wheel could land on bankrupt and the person in the lead the whole game can lose to the one that hasn't got a puzzle until the last one but when they win it has a trip worth a ton and they end up winning the game.

Yours is bigger today, but there is no need to whip it out and show it in public.

By the way, our union specifically ask us to stop this kind of posting a while back. Perhaps you need to reread the email.

Colt45
01-13-2019, 06:47 AM
Grow up. In October of 2016 we were some of the lowest payed in the industry and were wondering if we would ever see a new contract after over six years of negotiations. This business is like the player on Wheel of Fortune with $8000 and half of a car. The next spin of the wheel could land on bankrupt and the person in the lead the whole game can lose to the one that hasn't got a puzzle until the last one but when they win it has a trip worth a ton and they end up winning the game.

Yours is bigger today, but there is no need to whip it out and show it in public.

By the way, our union specifically ask us to stop this kind of posting a while back. Perhaps you need to reread the email.


Exactly what this ^^^^ guy said.

uhaul heavy
01-13-2019, 08:39 AM
Grow up. In October of 2016 we were some of the lowest payed in the industry and were wondering if we would ever see a new contract after over six years of negotiations. This business is like the player on Wheel of Fortune with $8000 and half of a car. The next spin of the wheel could land on bankrupt and the person in the lead the whole game can lose to the one that hasn't got a puzzle until the last one but when they win it has a trip worth a ton and they end up winning the game.

Yours is bigger today, but there is no need to whip it out and show it in public.

By the way, our union specifically ask us to stop this kind of posting a while back. Perhaps you need to reread the email.

Thank you Sky Jet. I am a current K4 pilot and it disgusts me that some of our pilots would come on here and brag. Those pilots do not represent the majority here. Most of us understand that the rug could be pulled out from underneath us at anytime. Those of you at Atlas, I and many others at K4 support and wish you only the best.

DC8DRIVER
01-13-2019, 03:38 PM
Thank you Sky Jet. I am a current K4 pilot and it disgusts me that some of our pilots would come on here and brag. Those pilots do not represent the majority here. Most of us understand that the rug could be pulled out from underneath us at anytime. Those of you at Atlas, I and many others at K4 support and wish you only the best.

Thanks for the support. I realize that virtually all k4 pilots are good people. Many there are good friends from past lives.

Too bad the few outliers just don't realize that all of our lives and careers are strengthened and enriched when we understand that it is pilots vs airline management and not pilots vs pilots that we need to focus on.

Strength in unity.

CallmeJB
01-13-2019, 03:39 PM
Grow up. In October of 2016 we were some of the lowest payed in the industry and were wondering if we would ever see a new contract after over six years of negotiations. This business is like the player on Wheel of Fortune with $8000 and half of a car. The next spin of the wheel could land on bankrupt and the person in the lead the whole game can lose to the one that hasn't got a puzzle until the last one but when they win it has a trip worth a ton and they end up winning the game.

Yours is bigger today, but there is no need to whip it out and show it in public.

By the way, our union specifically ask us to stop this kind of posting a while back. Perhaps you need to reread the email.

You know a lot about Wheel of Fortune. You must get a lot of time off in hotels.

captainwoo
01-14-2019, 08:07 AM
Just left the LCA meetings. Lots of new hire classes this year.

Company is offering $1600 a month for 4 months, the 50 hour min guarantee for your first year.

All new hires going to ANC on the -400.
Hey,
I am really trying hard to get in for the 747 position to Atlas.
Do you have an idea what is like the magic number and the average time for new hires?
I have now about 2050 total hours with 510 Turbine SIC.
I do have a 4yr degree and just started working on my masters.
I did talk with the recruiters last Fall but was offered a interview for 737 which i was not looking forward.
Any helps and tips would be really appreciated!

Hogcapt
01-14-2019, 08:31 AM
Hey,
I am really trying hard to get in for the 747 position to Atlas.
Do you have an idea what is like the magic number and the average time for new hires?
I have now about 2050 total hours with 510 Turbine SIC.
I do have a 4yr degree and just started working on my masters.
I did talk with the recruiters last Fall but was offered a interview for 737 which i was not looking forward.
Any helps and tips would be really appreciated!


Atlasfacts.org

Twin Wasp
01-14-2019, 10:03 AM
Hey,
I am really trying hard to get in for the 747 position to Atlas.
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I did talk with the recruiters last Fall but was offered a interview for 737 which i was not looking forward.
Any helps and tips would be really appreciated!

Atlas HR will put you where they need you that month. You could have a -400 type and if they need 737 bodies that is where you will go.

B727DRVR
01-14-2019, 12:55 PM
Not sure if you're an atlas pilot. But, if you saw our bidding system, and how its very easy to not line up the selections with the lines.

Also we have an auto number system, in which you need to disable, if you need to make a change.

But, if you don't believe me, why don't you come see for yourself.

Maybe you can teach them how to bid. Cause you didn't teach your buddy that.

Why would I? Especially when I make more at K4.

Hey all,

I think that this has gotten a little crazy.. I'm a little confused if Boeing was saying if $1600 per month was a good thing or a bad thing....:confused: I think that the answer is pretty bad.

Then, all I believe Riverside was saying was answering why he wouldn't want to come there since he was already making more money at K4 (which everybody here already knows is the case currently)... I realize that tensions are high these days, but this blow up doesn't make a whole lot of sense... I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think boasting would include dollar amounts... IMHO.

Riverside
01-14-2019, 01:04 PM
Then, all I believe Riverside was saying was answering why he wouldn't want to come there since he was already making more money at K4 (which everybody here already knows is the case currently)but I think boasting would include dollar amounts... IMHO.

How dare you make sense :)

Elevation
01-14-2019, 03:58 PM
Thanks for the burgers tonight!

jungle driver
01-18-2019, 05:05 PM
From the Atlas page...

Pay Hours for work on scheduled workdays: Crewmembers are paid the greater of (1.) Pay Credits (Flight + DH + Training, etc), (2.) Calculated Rig Time (CRT), commonly known as a Trip Rig or (3.) Minimum Monthly Guarantee. CRT is calculated based on Time Away From Base at a factor of 1:4.95, which pays 4.85 pay hours for each 24 hour period away from base (24 divided by 4.95). CRT is also paid while crews are on layover or reserve in base.

So according to this if you do a 17 day trip you shouldn't ever credit less that about 80 hours in a normal month right?

boeingdvr
01-18-2019, 05:14 PM
From the Atlas page...

Pay Hours for work on scheduled workdays: Crewmembers are paid the greater of (1.) Pay Credits (Flight + DH + Training, etc), (2.) Calculated Rig Time (CRT), commonly known as a Trip Rig or (3.) Minimum Monthly Guarantee. CRT is calculated based on Time Away From Base at a factor of 1:4.95, which pays 4.85 pay hours for each 24 hour period away from base (24 divided by 4.95). CRT is also paid while crews are on layover or reserve in base.

So according to this if you do a 17 day trip you shouldn't ever credit less that about 80 hours in a normal month right?

Yes ! And NO !

The company owns you for 17 days. In theory they could put you on r2 every day for 17 days for 1 min and duty you off for 23:59 mins, and you would only make 62 hours.

So- the company owns you for 17 days. It's very very possible especially on the 76 to work 17 days and only get 62 hours of pay.

The only pilots breaking min pay, are the senior pilots bidding 17 day trips, or preferably 17 day continuous RSV lines (CRT KEEPS ROLLING ) and you will make 78.50 for the bid roughly.

The 747. ANC base ( junior base ) you will have the pleasure of doing 17 day trips ( don't forget your 4 days of commuting ) for 80 hours. So the company is paying you 3.8 hours per day for your 21 days.

We are hiring !!! Come see for yourself.

boeingdvr
01-18-2019, 05:16 PM
From the Atlas page...

Pay Hours for work on scheduled workdays: Crewmembers are paid the greater of (1.) Pay Credits (Flight + DH + Training, etc), (2.) Calculated Rig Time (CRT), commonly known as a Trip Rig or (3.) Minimum Monthly Guarantee. CRT is calculated based on Time Away From Base at a factor of 1:4.95, which pays 4.85 pay hours for each 24 hour period away from base (24 divided by 4.95). CRT is also paid while crews are on layover or reserve in base.

So according to this if you do a 17 day trip you shouldn't ever credit less that about 80 hours in a normal month right?

Don't forget.

2x times per year your will have training. Plan on 62 hours
2x per year you will have VACA. Plan on 62 hours.
Sick calls. Plan on 62 hours.
Plan on breaking 62 hours once or twice a year and you will not be let down !!!

We are hiring !!

Cujo665
01-18-2019, 06:36 PM
Hey,
I am really trying hard to get in for the 747 position to Atlas.
Do you have an idea what is like the magic number and the average time for new hires?
I have now about 2050 total hours with 510 Turbine SIC.
I do have a 4yr degree and just started working on my masters.
I did talk with the recruiters last Fall but was offered a interview for 737 which i was not looking forward.
Any helps and tips would be really appreciated!

Man how times have changed.... not a dig at you, just observing that when most of us started those times might get you an interview to fly a B1900. Today, itís turning down 737.
Some people still insist thereís no pilot shortage too....

Good luck, keep applying yourself. Youíll get there.

Twin Wasp
01-18-2019, 09:58 PM
From the Atlas page...

Pay Hours for work on scheduled workdays: Crewmembers are paid the greater of (1.) Pay Credits (Flight + DH + Training, etc), (2.) Calculated Rig Time (CRT), commonly known as a Trip Rig or (3.) Minimum Monthly Guarantee. CRT is calculated based on Time Away From Base at a factor of 1:4.95, which pays 4.85 pay hours for each 24 hour period away from base (24 divided by 4.95). CRT is also paid while crews are on layover or reserve in base.

So according to this if you do a 17 day trip you shouldn't ever credit less that about 80 hours in a normal month right?

Rig starts when your trip starts. So if you have an early morning local departure half the Z day is gone. And if you get back in the evening it's only a couple hours into the Z day and you probably won't get home that evening. Low 70's rig credit is normal.

jungle driver
01-19-2019, 12:17 PM
Yes ! And NO !

The company owns you for 17 days. In theory they could put you on r2 every day for 17 days for 1 min and duty you off for 23:59 mins, and you would only make 62 hours.

So- the company owns you for 17 days. It's very very possible especially on the 76 to work 17 days and only get 62 hours of pay.

The only pilots breaking min pay, are the senior pilots bidding 17 day trips, or preferably 17 day continuous RSV lines (CRT KEEPS ROLLING ) and you will make 78.50 for the bid roughly.

The 747. ANC base ( junior base ) you will have the pleasure of doing 17 day trips ( don't forget your 4 days of commuting ) for 80 hours. So the company is paying you 3.8 hours per day for your 21 days.

We are hiring !!! Come see for yourself.

Don't forget.

2x times per year your will have training. Plan on 62 hours
2x per year you will have VACA. Plan on 62 hours.
Sick calls. Plan on 62 hours.
Plan on breaking 62 hours once or twice a year and you will not be let down !!!

We are hiring !!

Rig starts when your trip starts. So if you have an early morning local departure half the Z day is gone. And if you get back in the evening it's only a couple hours into the Z day and you probably won't get home that evening. Low 70's rig credit is normal.

Thanks! Those are all about what I expected to hear just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking something.

Globemaster2827
01-19-2019, 03:02 PM
Don't forget.

2x times per year your will have training. Plan on 62 hours
2x per year you will have VACA. Plan on 62 hours.
Sick calls. Plan on 62 hours.
Plan on breaking 62 hours once or twice a year and you will not be let down !!!

We are hiring !!

I lost two grandparents while there... 62 hours.

atpcliff
01-19-2019, 10:39 PM
From the Atlas page...

Pay Hours for work on scheduled workdays: Crewmembers are paid the greater of (1.) Pay Credits (Flight + DH + Training, etc), (2.) Calculated Rig Time (CRT), commonly known as a Trip Rig or (3.) Minimum Monthly Guarantee. CRT is calculated based on Time Away From Base at a factor of 1:4.95, which pays 4.85 pay hours for each 24 hour period away from base (24 divided by 4.95). CRT is also paid while crews are on layover or reserve in base.

So according to this if you do a 17 day trip you shouldn't ever credit less that about 80 hours in a normal month right?

You can also either start late, or get home early, with your paid days changed to R1, which is home reserve, no pay. My schedule this month I have two days of R1 at the end of my pattern.

The last average I heard was overall for ALL Atlas pilots, the number is 74 hours/month. That WAS several years ago, before much of the Amazon flying. In ONT, which is Amazon only I believe, pretty much everyone is at 62 hours every month, due to the way Amazon schedules their flying (Note: I am on the 747, so the above is what I have read)...