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FANS1A
01-23-2019, 03:38 PM
Hi all:

I am doing research on the benefits of FANS1A and wondering how much does it cost the airline to send/receive a CPDLC message?

Thanks a lot in advance!:)

Best


bottoms up
01-23-2019, 04:25 PM
Well someone has to push accept. And someone else there to verify it. That ainít free

FANS1A
01-23-2019, 04:38 PM
Well someone has to push accept. And someone else there to verify it. That ainít free

thanks for the reply. I am expecting a number something like 20 cents per message sent to controller or received from controller


rickair7777
01-23-2019, 05:10 PM
I know some of the ARINC message services were $15-$20 back in the day. Company would send you a nasty gram if you were doing ORD-JAX and sending for LAX weather to help plan your days off.

My guess is that CPFLC is more in that range. Aviation: add a zero.

Borden Drousy
01-24-2019, 05:58 AM
You're asking the wrong group.



Try a Dispatcher forum. They have management strolling through breathing down their necks with helpful money saving advice all day.

cornbeef007
01-24-2019, 06:46 AM
You're asking the wrong group.



Try a Dispatcher forum. They have management strolling through breathing down their necks with helpful money saving advice all day.

This...corporations have the tendency to compile all costs associated with a particular action as opposed to a singular breakdown. They want actions to appear as expensive as possible in a way that helps to motivate us to be more cost conscious.

Get ahold of ARINC or Nav Canada. They may be able to answer your questions

Std Deviation
01-24-2019, 09:04 AM
Over water itís going through the Iridium satellite network. Despite the low bandwidth of the Iridium network, satellite time is not cheap. Also, ADS-C for automatic position reporting is used far more regularly than CPDLC. Although we tend to use the term CPDLC as a catch all, the ADS-C is a factor in the cost.

galaxy flyer
01-24-2019, 12:59 PM
Arenít these charges all rolled into the navigation fees, depending on ANSP?

GF

cargofast
01-24-2019, 05:22 PM
Arenít these charges all rolled into the navigation fees, depending on ANSP?

GF


Yes, from the ANSP provider side of things. You still have to pay a service provider such as ARINC or Iridium/Inmarsat for the transmission of those messages.



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