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ERAUAV8TR
04-17-2019, 10:01 AM
Pay Raises!


MD-11Loader
04-17-2019, 10:13 AM
Pay Raises!

Boondoggle!

See, I can say stupid stuff too without backing it up.

Bassman1985
04-17-2019, 10:14 AM
LAX!

Three can play at this game.


MD-11Loader
04-17-2019, 10:20 AM
Smegma!

Words are great!

Varsity
04-17-2019, 10:42 AM
Did I miss something? :confused:

moon
04-17-2019, 10:43 AM
Must have just passed his company anniversary.

Voski
04-17-2019, 10:45 AM
E190s from American!

wiz5422
04-17-2019, 10:46 AM
Slurpee machines in every crew room.

Bassman1985
04-17-2019, 10:46 AM
E190s from American!

175s to Mainline. We don’t want ANYTHING bigger coming down to our level.

Voski
04-17-2019, 11:35 AM
175s to Mainline. We don’t want ANYTHING bigger coming down to our level.

I don't disagree with you, but we're currently discussing imaginary things that are not actually happening at Envoy.

buddies8
04-17-2019, 11:50 AM
175s to Mainline. We don’t want ANYTHING bigger coming down to our level.

Yes hold out for that one.

MD-11Loader
04-17-2019, 12:03 PM
I don't disagree with you, but we're currently discussing imaginary things that are not actually happening at Envoy.

Respect from management and to not be treated like we are the runoff at a pig farm!

Captain Kirk
04-17-2019, 12:14 PM
RAP1 is no longer the default

BigZ
04-17-2019, 12:19 PM
RAP1 is no longer the default

Meh, you'll be senior some day.

Slurpee Machine!

Captain Kirk
04-17-2019, 12:21 PM
Meh, you'll be senior some day.

Slurpee Machine!

Ok, how about NY lines are increasing for the summer season

use2fly
04-17-2019, 01:51 PM
Flow is increased and we get to choose between United, Delta or FedEx.

BIueSideUp
04-17-2019, 03:17 PM
Can we just get a Dunkin by the ORD L gates tho...?

BigZ
04-17-2019, 03:24 PM
Can we just get a Dunkin by the ORD L gates tho...?

With Starbucks already there, I'd guess the Slurpee machine would happen before that happens.

Voski
04-17-2019, 04:05 PM
Flow is increased and we get to choose between United, Delta or FedEx.

Nobody would flow to American then. ;)

Cujo665
04-17-2019, 04:41 PM
New management and new managers.

EnyFlyr
04-17-2019, 04:48 PM
New management and new managers.

This would be so nice

Varsity
04-17-2019, 05:08 PM
New management and new managers.

I would give a few $$$/hour for this.

Ijustlikeflying
04-18-2019, 04:23 AM
Anyone hear anything on the meeting they had yesterday evening?

BigZ
04-18-2019, 04:51 AM
Anyone hear anything on the meeting they had yesterday evening?

Yesterday's DFW crew room meeting notice mentions "upcoming meetings" with the company. Between the timing of that (2 to 4:30pm) and the scheduled MEC officer meeting at 6pm, I don't know if we should be expecting much just yet.
Anyone make it to the DFW crew room yesterday?

MD-11Loader
04-18-2019, 05:08 AM
Anyone hear anything on the meeting they had yesterday evening?

Nope. Hoping it was somewhat productive. 😬

Varsity
04-18-2019, 05:11 AM
I'm sure glad our union communicates this stuff to us so well.

"hey guys, got a meeting on the 17th, will report back after thx"

nooope.

Ijustlikeflying
04-18-2019, 06:01 AM
I'm sure glad our union communicates this stuff to us so well.

"hey guys, got a meeting on the 17th, will report back after thx"

nooope.

In their defense it has not even been 24hours haha...but I would like to hear something...anything...by the weeks end. Even if it’s just a “we are headed in the right direction...” or “...we aren’t making much progress...” email.

FlyPurdue
04-18-2019, 06:08 AM
Yesterday Pat was in the DFW crew room (I sit a lot of standby). He said that we should hear something either way on Monday.

jake cutter
04-18-2019, 10:59 AM
Unconscious Bias!

Ijustlikeflying
04-18-2019, 11:06 AM
Are the rumors true

MISOhigh
04-18-2019, 12:05 PM
Unconscious Bias!



Haha brilliant


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rld1k
04-18-2019, 12:08 PM
Are the rumors true

Stapled to mainline?

Voski
04-18-2019, 12:19 PM
Stapled to mainline?

Not so much stapled, but paperclipped with AA seniority numbers?

pitchattitude
04-18-2019, 12:20 PM
Stapled to mainline?
Folded in. Envoy pilots with 175 ratings will get one day of seniority at American per two days. All Envoy pilots will get one day per three if only typed in the CRJ or 145, so PSA and PDT will be one for three as well.

bigtime209
04-18-2019, 12:32 PM
I'm sure glad our union communicates this stuff to us so well.

"hey guys, got a meeting on the 17th, will report back after thx"

nooope.

NC met with the company for the first time yesterday. MEC is spending the next few days reviewing the company’s proposal. MEC is planning on communicating the status of the talks between ALPA and the company. As others have mentioned, DO NOT negotiate online. Especially publicly volunteering to accept concessions. Don’t negotiate for the company.

buddies8
04-18-2019, 12:46 PM
Its minimum pay raises and pay rates equal to psa and no concessions on our current contract. Not much to think about. If it's not the above then there is no consideration to be had.

JustAsking
04-18-2019, 12:50 PM
Folded in. Envoy pilots with 175 ratings will get one day of seniority at American per two days. All Envoy pilots will get one day per three if only typed in the CRJ or 145, so PSA and PDT will be one for three as well.What does that mean, and why would anyone agree to that if they were not on the 175?

MISOhigh
04-18-2019, 12:59 PM
What does that mean, and why would anyone agree to that if they were not on the 175?



Exactly. AA really has an opportunity right now to bring us all under the fold pay/seniority wise and make one big “happy” family. I have a feeling if Envoy Pilots don’t get what we deserve, you will see many jump ship, myself included. Fingers crossed


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Varsity
04-18-2019, 01:00 PM
What does that mean, and why would anyone agree to that if they were not on the 175?

They’re joking. We’re not getting stapled.

SilentLurker
04-18-2019, 01:31 PM
I agree! People need to chill out.

Reminds me of a popular commercial.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H2pvSQYCZcc

dera
04-18-2019, 01:32 PM
Folded in. Envoy pilots with 175 ratings will get one day of seniority at American per two days. All Envoy pilots will get one day per three if only typed in the CRJ or 145, so PSA and PDT will be one for three as well.

Finally they realize how much more valuable underwing engine time is!

SilentLurker
04-18-2019, 01:32 PM
And...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D3TxCsw_P3Q

MISOhigh
04-18-2019, 01:32 PM
So all these "rumors", I would think our MEC guys would have had to sign the ND agreement...makes ya think.

havick206
04-18-2019, 01:33 PM
Hot off the press. Negotiations currently taking place as we speak. The slurpee machine is in play.

SilentLurker
04-18-2019, 01:39 PM
Hot off the press. Negotiations currently taking place as we speak. The slurpee machine is in play.



I rather a Starbucks or Dunkin’ Krueger cup machine.

dvtpilot
04-18-2019, 01:44 PM
I rather a Starbucks or Dunkin’ Krueger cup machine.

That complete with an office lackey to deliver it to the gate, and the ability to send my order in on the in range acars message.

For that, I’ll give up 2 US cents per hour on the going rate.

buddies8
04-18-2019, 01:45 PM
That complete with an office lackey to deliver it to the gate, and the ability to send my order in on the in range acars message.

This I like too.

ERAUAV8TR
04-18-2019, 01:50 PM
That complete with an office lackey to deliver it to the gate, and the ability to send my order in on the in range acars message.

For that, I’ll give up 2 US cents per hour on the going rate.

The Grab app....your welcome

pitchattitude
04-18-2019, 01:52 PM
Hot off the press. Negotiations currently taking place as we speak. The slurpee machine is in play.
I think we need a slurpee machine in the crew room AND galley.

Houpilot2001
04-18-2019, 03:10 PM
Update from the latest news blast on pay raises.

Nothing new, keep waiting.

Smutter
04-18-2019, 03:21 PM
You guys are already all ****ed, look at all the comments over the last couple pages everybody saying just give me a couple dollars not even fighting to get anything close to the top. Wait till the MEC is staffed with a whole bunch of two year seniority pilots you guys will drive down lower than Mesa.

Houpilot2001
04-18-2019, 03:57 PM
You guys are already all ****ed, look at all the comments over the last couple pages everybody saying just give me a couple dollars not even fighting to get anything close to the top. Wait till the MEC is staffed with a whole bunch of two year seniority pilots you guys will drive down lower than Mesa.

What the majority of people dont seem to understand is that this isnt negotiations. Either they pay up with no concessions, or we take nothing.

This isnt the time to talk about reserve, qol, or slurpee machines.

Every one needs to shut the @#$% up and take what we get (or dont get). Nothing else matters right now.

Ijustlikeflying
04-18-2019, 03:59 PM
What the majority of people dont seem to understand is that this isnt negotiations. Either they pay up with no concessions, or we take nothing.

This isnt the time to talk about reserve, qol, or slurpee machines.

Every one needs to shut the @#$% up and take what we get (or dont get). Nothing else matters right now.


This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

SilentLurker
04-18-2019, 04:03 PM
What the majority of people dont seem to understand is that this isnt negotiations. Either they pay up with no concessions, or we take nothing.



This isnt the time to talk about reserve, qol, or slurpee machines.



Every one needs to shut the @#$% up and take what we get (or dont get). Nothing else matters right now.



I really hope you did not emailed that to your Rep.


Edited to add:

Relax. A lot of sarcasm posts occurring. Nothing to feed the lurking grazing wilder beasts. ;)

copycopy
04-18-2019, 04:06 PM
Slurpee machines in every crew room.

I love a good, nostalgic troll comment.

Houpilot2001
04-18-2019, 04:07 PM
I really hope you did not emailed that to your Rep.

Let’s not feed the lurking wilder beasts y’all. ;)

So you want concessions?

tonsterboy5
04-18-2019, 04:10 PM
I know a friend who knows this guy that said envoy is the new mainline and all AA employees will be stapled to the bottom of Envoys list.

SilentLurker
04-18-2019, 04:13 PM
So you want concessions?



That’s called negotiating in public! Nobody answer that...


Email your Reps. ;) Relax y’all!

Houpilot2001
04-18-2019, 04:15 PM
That’s called negotiating in public! Nobody answer that...


Email your Reps. ;) Relax y’all!

I see your edited response, that's what I am talking about. Everyone wants to joke and play but this isnt the forum for it.

This isnt contract negotiations, we get what's offered....or we dont... it's not the time or place to talk about other stuff.

SilentLurker
04-18-2019, 04:18 PM
I see your edited response, that's what I am talking about. Everyone wants to joke and play but this isnt the forum for it.



This isnt contract negotiations, we get what's offered....or we dont... it's not the time or place to talk about other stuff.



I say everyone is excited and overly hyped up. I think people here on APC do need to relax. We agree. I also think we should let the people elected do their jobs.

There are still “ Eagle Strong” guys left! I’m proud of that fact. I trust their judgment.

pitchattitude
04-18-2019, 04:34 PM
You guys are already all ****ed, look at all the comments over the last couple pages everybody saying just give me a couple dollars not even fighting to get anything close to the top. Wait till the MEC is staffed with a whole bunch of two year seniority pilots you guys will drive down lower than Mesa.
And the person that posted that said a few posts down (and if you look at their post history) they don’t even work at Envoy! Nothing to keep Ric or Pedro from coming on here and saying “ just a few more bucks”. Y’all are taking this “negotiating in public” on an anonymous forum WAY too seriously. I also said somewhere earlier “mainline wages and work rules” is THAT “negotiating in public”?

ERAUAV8TR
04-18-2019, 04:41 PM
You guys are already all ****ed, look at all the comments over the last couple pages everybody saying just give me a couple dollars not even fighting to get anything close to the top. Wait till the MEC is staffed with a whole bunch of two year seniority pilots you guys will drive down lower than Mesa.

Place is already below Mesa silly

rld1k
04-18-2019, 05:31 PM
Place is already below Mesa silly

B...but...my flow!

BigZ
04-18-2019, 07:43 PM
#MEGA

About damn time.

UncreativeUser
04-18-2019, 08:22 PM
You guys are already all ****ed, look at all the comments over the last couple pages everybody saying just give me a couple dollars not even fighting to get anything close to the top. Wait till the MEC is staffed with a whole bunch of two year seniority pilots you guys will drive down lower than Mesa.



Anybody can come on here and say ANYTHING, they may not even work here. I was taught to never believe the internet unless met with facts. Nobody knows anyone, so everything said on here isn’t reflective of an entire pilot group


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chrisreedrules
04-19-2019, 04:06 AM
If you guys get slurpee machines in your crew rooms be prepared for the rush of new hires from every other regional. Game changer.

Justadude91
04-19-2019, 12:26 PM
Any news? If it’s good I think we would here something by tonight?

pitchattitude
04-19-2019, 12:42 PM
Any news? If it’s good I think we would here something by tonight?

This is the sarcasm thread, not to be confused with the threads that have lies and half truths. Those seem to indicate that any such word forthcoming will not be until Monday.

crj700
04-19-2019, 12:43 PM
Any news? If it’s good I think we would here something by tonight?
No no no, bad news is usually announced near close of business on Friday.

Is today (Good Friday) by chance a holiday at HQ?

MD-11Loader
04-19-2019, 02:13 PM
I am sure this will take more than a meeting or two in order to get hashed out. Hopefully there’s an update.

SlowtationXL
04-22-2019, 07:27 PM
I want a company credit card for meals, Rental cars at all of our overnights, and all the hotel points... all of them.

buddies8
04-23-2019, 05:56 AM
I am with you on that.◇◇◇

ParkingatMIA
04-23-2019, 06:15 AM
and all the hotel points... all of them.

The only way they’ll give us all the points is if we stay at motel 6s and Red Roof Inns

RawHide
04-23-2019, 06:39 AM
The only way they’ll give us all the points is if we stay at motel 6s and Red Roof Inns

Just think of all the free family vacations to motel 6!

402FreightDog
04-23-2019, 07:09 AM
I think our FAs need parity with Mesa and Skywest. Think about it.

Ijustlikeflying
04-23-2019, 12:29 PM
any negotiation meetings this week ?

Timbird
04-23-2019, 05:15 PM
any negotiation meetings this week ?

It’s top secret. Can’t risk messing up the negotiations. Standby for a 4 paragraph no update email.

bigtime209
04-23-2019, 05:34 PM
It’s top secret. Can’t risk messing up the negotiations. Standby for a 4 paragraph no update email.

Or they could send out details of the current talks and then we could sit back and watch all the posts on here about all the concessions guys would gladly take.

crj700
04-23-2019, 07:55 PM
Or they could send out details of the current talks and then we could sit back and watch all the posts on here about all the concessions guys would gladly take.

I don't want details, I too would just like to know if they are talking.

smtx123
04-23-2019, 08:00 PM
I don't want details, I too would just like to know if they are talking.
Latest email indicated discussions had stopped for easter and would continue afterwards. No timeline of when they would continue

pitchattitude
04-23-2019, 08:11 PM
Latest email indicated discussions had stopped for easter and would continue afterwards. No timeline of when they would continue

Because we all know how important religious holidays are to Envoy. They need several days to honor them.

Ijustlikeflying
04-24-2019, 09:27 AM
...Bueller


...filler

RawHide
04-24-2019, 11:05 AM
You could just hsd your negotiating committee

bigtime209
04-24-2019, 11:15 AM
You could just hsd your negotiating committee

Or instead of Sabre stalking or trying to get secondhand info off of an online forum, you could just pick up your phone and reach out to your rep directly to ask questions and provide input.



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