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speedbrakearmed
04-21-2019, 12:22 AM
Anyone have any recommendations on eLogbooks? I currently use ELogsite which is great but all of my prior 121 stuff is on FlightLogg.in and it's honestly too much work to try and import all of the Elogsite data into FlightLogg as there's a repetition error that keeps occurring when I try to import it. It keeps creating a 'new plane' for the same tail number (so I have like 50 N942LT's in there for example). I'm almost just looking for a new eLogbook all together so that I can just import both of my ELogsite and FlightLogg together and continue to import Elogsite data as it comes in month by month.


arbatistoni
04-21-2019, 04:22 AM
I use elogsite and import it all into log10pro each month. Elogsite spits out a .csv file and you can assign the columns a title within log10 and import them. These settings get saved for future use. Its fairly easy.

You just export elogsite’s backup file and unzip it. Take the csv file and import it into log10pro. It will prompt you to assign a list of predetermined categories ( total flight, imc, night,etc.) to each column. Once you do this it retains the format and will save for the next import.

speedbrakearmed
04-21-2019, 07:57 AM
Thank You! I was bouncing between Log10Pro and ForeFlight since it looks like you get ForeFlight automatically when you get their Logbook.


Cujo665
04-23-2019, 11:53 AM
Thank You! I was bouncing between Log10Pro and ForeFlight since it looks like you get ForeFlight automatically when you get their Logbook.

Logbookpro will also import csv

It’s companion airline pilot daily logbook is a great app also

Reaperblade
04-26-2019, 06:09 AM
LogTen pro here!!! Basically in my opinion if you have a PC=logbook pro, MAC=LogTen pro


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Pahpa Kilo
05-06-2019, 06:19 PM
If you are considering MCC Pilot Log, here’s my experience:

I purchased MCC Pilot Log Enterprise Edition (Lifetime) 5 months ago because I had heard good reviews and the company’s web site pitched how there were no subscription fees. It cost me about $81.09 after the EUR conversion. The MCC Pilot Log web site states “We do not run a subscription plan. We have 3 editions with one-time fee for life-time use. The basic STD Edition is even FREE.”

During these 5 months I used the software, but suddenly the airline interface stopped working. I went to the support page to log a support ticket and was greeted with the following message:

“IMPORTANT NOTE : 10 years after the first release, and 2600 changes and fixes later, it was time to rebuild mccPILOTLOG on new fundaments.

mccPILOTLOG is still available to existing customers. New customers can still purchase mccPILOTLOG, if they want. However, we are no longer updating mccPILOTLOG. Instead, the team is focusing on the new logbook. We recommend all pilots to migrate to our new app CrewLounge PILOTLOG !”

After my initial disbelief and further investigation I found the FAQ page for people like me who had just purchased what was sold as a lifetime license. Below is an excerpt from the company’s FAQ page:

” I paid for mccPILOTLOG, do I have to pay again ?
We keep our word : your license for mccPILOTLOG remains valid ! You have paid for a lifetime use of mccPILOTLOG, so you can continue to using mccPILOTLOG as long as you want. We do not terminate mccPILOTLOG, your logbook continues to run. We do not terminate support, you continue to receiving the same support as before.
We only terminate further updating and bug fixing. Our team is now focusing on the CrewLounge AERO Suite, a completely new platform created with the latest coding technologies and security protocols. CrewLounge PILOTLOG, as part of the CrewLounge AERO Suite, is the new pilot logbook to replace mccPILOTLOG. CrewLounge PILOTLOG is subscription based, we do no longer offer one-time payments.
We invite all pilots with a lifetime license for mccPILOTLOG to migrate and enjoy the new CrewLounge AERO Suite ! We certainly understand that you are reluctant to switching to a subscription plan. We have GOOD news for you : You don’t !
Contrary to our competitors, that either ceased to exist, or that canceled all license keys and forced users into a subscription plan, we offer grandfathering rights to all users of mccPILOTLOG ! You can now migrate your lifetime license from mccPILOTLOG to CrewLounge PILOTLOG with a one-time contribution ! Buy 3 years and get Lifetime ! No subscription, no extra charges ! We will also pay the VAT for you !
That’s true ! All pilots with a lifetime license for mccPILOTLOG can now transfer their license to the new CrewLounge PILOTLOG application and be excluded from subscriptions, for lifetime! This offer is limited in time !
As a bonus, you receive a free 1-year license for the popular calendar app CrewLounge CONNECT (value 12.00 EUR) ! And, as an extra bonus, all PRO users (mccPILOTLOG) can now free upgrade to ENT (CrewLounge PILOTLOG) without being charged extra !
So, here is our offer :

• purchase 3 years of the new CrewLounge PILOTLOG software (*)

• get 10% immediate discount (for 3-year orders)

• get another 20% discount (that is, we will pay the VAT applicable to your country)

• transfer your Lifetime license to CrewLounge PILOTLOG (be excluded from subscriptions)

• upgrade to a higher Edition ENT or the new ENT+ (even if you are on PRO today)

• get 1 year free use of our popular roster app CrewLounge CONNECT


This is a temporary offer, we hold the right to terminate this offer at any time !
(*) Pilots that purchased mccPILOTLOG in 2019, can upgrade with paying only 1-year subscription to CrewLounge AERO.”

Essentially, the lifetime software I just purchased will not be updated any more. Therefore, the airline interface will not be fixed. In other words, my software is now useless to me.

But wait, I checked out their upgrade offer and found that I will need to pay for 3 years up front to get the lifetime subscription that I already paid for 5 months ago. The price is 2.99 EUR/month or about $3.35/month as of today. A total of about $120.00. Believe it or not, I actually considered just paying the money and moving on with my life. So I downloaded the trial version of the new CrewLounge Pilot Log, imported my data and tried to download my schedule with the airline interface. Of course – it doesn’t work.

Overall, my experience with this company is extremely negative. I would not recommend MCC Pilot Log or CrewLounge Pilot Log. You will be disappointed and will end up having to pay for a real logbook program from a reputable company. Good luck folks. Learning is a change in behavior as a result of experience.

Jamesthunder
05-07-2019, 01:18 AM
If you are considering MCC Pilot Log, here’s my experience:

I purchased MCC Pilot Log Enterprise Edition (Lifetime) 5 months ago because I had heard good reviews and the company’s web site pitched how there were no subscription fees. It cost me about $81.09 after the EUR conversion. The MCC Pilot Log web site states “We do not run a subscription plan. We have 3 editions with one-time fee for life-time use. The basic STD Edition is even FREE.”

During these 5 months I used the software, but suddenly the airline interface stopped working. I went to the support page to log a support ticket and was greeted with the following message:

“IMPORTANT NOTE : 10 years after the first release, and 2600 changes and fixes later, it was time to rebuild mccPILOTLOG on new fundaments.

mccPILOTLOG is still available to existing customers. New customers can still purchase mccPILOTLOG, if they want. However, we are no longer updating mccPILOTLOG. Instead, the team is focusing on the new logbook. We recommend all pilots to migrate to our new app CrewLounge PILOTLOG !”

After my initial disbelief and further investigation I found the FAQ page for people like me who had just purchased what was sold as a lifetime license. Below is an excerpt from the company’s FAQ page:

” I paid for mccPILOTLOG, do I have to pay again ?
We keep our word : your license for mccPILOTLOG remains valid ! You have paid for a lifetime use of mccPILOTLOG, so you can continue to using mccPILOTLOG as long as you want. We do not terminate mccPILOTLOG, your logbook continues to run. We do not terminate support, you continue to receiving the same support as before.
We only terminate further updating and bug fixing. Our team is now focusing on the CrewLounge AERO Suite, a completely new platform created with the latest coding technologies and security protocols. CrewLounge PILOTLOG, as part of the CrewLounge AERO Suite, is the new pilot logbook to replace mccPILOTLOG. CrewLounge PILOTLOG is subscription based, we do no longer offer one-time payments.
We invite all pilots with a lifetime license for mccPILOTLOG to migrate and enjoy the new CrewLounge AERO Suite ! We certainly understand that you are reluctant to switching to a subscription plan. We have GOOD news for you : You don’t !
Contrary to our competitors, that either ceased to exist, or that canceled all license keys and forced users into a subscription plan, we offer grandfathering rights to all users of mccPILOTLOG ! You can now migrate your lifetime license from mccPILOTLOG to CrewLounge PILOTLOG with a one-time contribution ! Buy 3 years and get Lifetime ! No subscription, no extra charges ! We will also pay the VAT for you !
That’s true ! All pilots with a lifetime license for mccPILOTLOG can now transfer their license to the new CrewLounge PILOTLOG application and be excluded from subscriptions, for lifetime! This offer is limited in time !
As a bonus, you receive a free 1-year license for the popular calendar app CrewLounge CONNECT (value 12.00 EUR) ! And, as an extra bonus, all PRO users (mccPILOTLOG) can now free upgrade to ENT (CrewLounge PILOTLOG) without being charged extra !
So, here is our offer :

• purchase 3 years of the new CrewLounge PILOTLOG software (*)

• get 10% immediate discount (for 3-year orders)

• get another 20% discount (that is, we will pay the VAT applicable to your country)

• transfer your Lifetime license to CrewLounge PILOTLOG (be excluded from subscriptions)

• upgrade to a higher Edition ENT or the new ENT+ (even if you are on PRO today)

• get 1 year free use of our popular roster app CrewLounge CONNECT


This is a temporary offer, we hold the right to terminate this offer at any time !
(*) Pilots that purchased mccPILOTLOG in 2019, can upgrade with paying only 1-year subscription to CrewLounge AERO.”

Essentially, the lifetime software I just purchased will not be updated any more. Therefore, the airline interface will not be fixed. In other words, my software is now useless to me.

But wait, I checked out their upgrade offer and found that I will need to pay for 3 years up front to get the lifetime subscription that I already paid for 5 months ago. The price is 2.99 EUR/month or about $3.35/month as of today. A total of about $120.00. Believe it or not, I actually considered just paying the money and moving on with my life. So I downloaded the trial version of the new CrewLounge Pilot Log, imported my data and tried to download my schedule with the airline interface. Of course – it doesn’t work.

Overall, my experience with this company is extremely negative. I would not recommend MCC Pilot Log or CrewLounge Pilot Log. You will be disappointed and will end up having to pay for a real logbook program from a reputable company. Good luck folks. Learning is a change in behavior as a result of experience.

That's disappointing, McPilotLog is who I use.

ninerdriver
05-07-2019, 04:07 AM
That's disappointing, McPilotLog is who I use.

I use them, too. They just published a patch last week.

YLpilot
05-07-2019, 05:57 AM
I used to use them with a previous airline but I could never get it to sync with Envoy so I let it go by the wayside. Sucks. It was a good deal while it lasted.

Cujo665
05-07-2019, 06:40 AM
LogbookPro
Cut-n-paste import of HI3
One button totals page customized to airlineapps.com
Printout in any format including Jepp
Numerous summary printouts for that schnazz factor
Prints PDF format also
Easily import/export to from LBP
Apps for phone, iPad, desktop with cloud sync.
Organize your PDF files, email to Fedex office for printout binding and go to an interview with a highly customized hardcopy Logbook.

UncreativeUser
05-07-2019, 10:24 AM
I use LogTen pro. It’s the best out there which, is kinda sad to say in 2019 considering their cloud sync algorithm can get messed up at times. Love the PDF Jeppesen output but can’t customize.

Honestly can’t remember the last time I totaled with a calculator, the app has done an excellent of auto forwarding and calculating totals for me


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