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teamflyer
05-06-2019, 11:46 AM
Is this the start of envoy taking over all eagle flights in MIA. see a envoy 175 on flightaware ENY4385


bigtime209
05-06-2019, 11:53 AM
There is no Envoy 4385. There is, however, a Republic 4385 that operates in MIA.

NoValueAviator
05-06-2019, 11:56 AM
Republic is shutting Envoy down in both our east coast bases, but much slower in Miami.


SoFloFlyer
05-06-2019, 03:18 PM
Safe to say that MIA will be a small ENY base in the next few years?

pitchattitude
05-06-2019, 03:47 PM
Safe to say that MIA will be a small ENY base in the next few years?

Likely, yes. Safe to say, no. Not in this business, and not at Envoy. It only recently came back.

Squirrel27
05-06-2019, 03:49 PM
Safe to say that MIA will be a small ENY base in the next few years?

Not necessarily. I wouldn't be surprised if there is no Envoy MIA 175 base ever. I think AAG is pretty happy with Republic.

Ijustlikeflying
05-06-2019, 04:41 PM
Not necessarily. I wouldn't be surprised if there is no Envoy MIA 175 base ever. I think AAG is pretty happy with Republic.

I love how everyone on here talks like they sit in on AAG meetings...haha...you have no idea what AAG is or isnít happy with, nor do I or anyone posting on these forums. And if they say they do, theyíre lying.

Squirrel27
05-06-2019, 04:47 PM
I love how everyone on here talks like they sit in on AAG meetings...haha...you have no idea what AAG is or isnít happy with, nor do I or anyone posting on these forums. And if they say they do, theyíre lying.

I just go off of the news articles about TSA, ExpressJet, and Air Whiskey flying going away, and Mesa being "reprimanded" by American. I haven't seen any such articles about Republic.

One can also deduce clues from what the VP of AAG Planning said about American's regional feed a few quarters ago.

I never pretended to know what all the future plans are. But it seems that Republic is pretty safe at the moment. And betting on a 175 Miami base that nobody really knows if it will happen may not be a smart move.

Pedro4President
05-07-2019, 07:03 AM
I just go off of the news articles about TSA, ExpressJet, and Air Whiskey flying going away, and Mesa being "reprimanded" by American. I haven't seen any such articles about Republic.

One can also deduce clues from what the VP of AAG Planning said about American's regional feed a few quarters ago.

I never pretended to know what all the future plans are. But it seems that Republic is pretty safe at the moment. And betting on a 175 Miami base that nobody really knows if it will happen may not be a smart move.

The only way I see the 175 going to MIAMI is to replace our 145.

jake cutter
05-07-2019, 08:09 AM
In order for our 175 fleet to serve MIA in lieu of Republic theyíd need to be equipped for over water shenanigans. Far as anyone knows that ainít happening.

Cyio
05-07-2019, 08:48 AM
In order for our 175 fleet to serve MIA in lieu of Republic theyíd need to be equipped for over water shenanigans. Far as anyone knows that ainít happening.
The whole program was scrapped because certifying the planes would mean they couldnít use them for Canada flying out of Dallas. The logistics would have been an issue.

buddies8
05-07-2019, 11:02 AM
How far is yyz from dfw, and how far is phl to oma. Republic does phl oma.

Varsity
05-07-2019, 11:11 AM
How far is yyz from dfw, and how far is phl to oma. Republic does phl oma.

Envoy flies to YYC from DFW. 1,523 miles.

PHL-OMA is barely 1,000 miles.

MD-11Loader
05-07-2019, 11:11 AM
The whole program was scrapped because certifying the planes would mean they couldnít use them for Canada flying out of Dallas. The logistics would have been an issue.

I wonder how much weight it would be? Republic only has life vests on their aircraft and they have the 160 mile exemption. I think thatís what we had for the ATR as well isnít it? Just doing that couldnít add too much weight.

Varsity
05-07-2019, 11:15 AM
I wonder how much weight it would be? Republic only has life vests on their aircraft and they have the 160 mile exemption. I think thatís what we had for the ATR as well isnít it? Just doing that couldnít add too much weight.

It's over 600 pounds.

MD-11Loader
05-07-2019, 11:36 AM
It's over 600 pounds.

Each vest and plastic container is almost 8 lbs? Thatís nuts. Oh well. Let Republic have MIA, we have cool lanyards.

jake cutter
05-07-2019, 11:38 AM
Envoy flies to YYC from DFW. 1,523 miles.



PHL-OMA is barely 1,000 miles.



We do DFW-YYZ too. And the new California flying is just as much as YYC almost.

Tyrion
05-07-2019, 12:01 PM
Republic isn't going anywhere anytime soon because they are partially owned by AAG, Delta, and United as part of their most recent bankruptcy restructuring, and their contacts are secured as part of that agreement.

Varsity
05-08-2019, 07:41 AM
Each vest and plastic container is almost 8 lbs? Thatís nuts. Oh well. Let Republic have MIA, we have cool lanyards.

The slides are different too, bigger and probably heavier.

buddies8
05-08-2019, 08:16 AM
A billion dollar corporation cant a afford the cost and savings by in house flying but a non w/o can afford it and make profits from aag.
What a concept.