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Turbotimer
07-10-2019, 08:30 AM
Anyone hear anything about suncountry hiring? I submitted my app a month or two ago and keep updating it, but havenít heard anything at all. I fly for a 135 op, have my ATP, and over 1300 twin turbine


Pull and Rotate
07-10-2019, 09:37 AM
A couple classes were delayed due to attrition not keeping pace with their expectations. Next class of 6, I believe, starts in August. Not sure if they are resuming monthly classes after that. I think they have a pool of some sort so that might explain why you haven't heard anything.

sMFer
07-10-2019, 10:17 AM
You can all do Sun Country pilots a favor by staying clear and not applying. When mgmt can't find anyone to sit in class because of their turd contract, they'll come to the table. Then and only then because we all know they will never be released.

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tolipenalpria
07-10-2019, 10:42 PM
Don't let me tell you what to do, but if you plan to come here to "be based at home" be careful. Inefficient schedules that leave you with only 10 days off each month after you pick up additional flying to try and make ends meet doesn't exactly make you feel "based at home". New bases are not completely off the table either, it's just a matter of time.
#May2020

beech1980
07-12-2019, 07:11 AM
Itís not the airline it was. Guys that have been here for 30 years are now packing overnight bags. The previous poster is correct. You will work your butt off just to make a few extra bucks. The fast upgrades and doing turns is all but gone. Itís lost itís QOL. Guys came here knowing pay was less but you were home most nights. Itís turned into a worse place to be because the pay isnít offsetting the lost QOL. Management doesnít care either.

nibake
07-14-2019, 06:10 AM
Anyone hear anything about suncountry hiring? I submitted my app a month or two ago and keep updating it, but havenít heard anything at all. I fly for a 135 op, have my ATP, and over 1300 twin turbine

Since the other posts didn't seem to really answer your question, yes, it would seem that they are hiring. I'm also 135 but had some other helpful boxes checked on my resume. Fewer hours than you. I got an interview invite two months after first submitting the app.

friend
07-14-2019, 10:12 PM
Do u need a tap or will.they provide atp.cpt course

Starlifter
07-14-2019, 10:52 PM
Do u need a tap or will.they provide atp.cpt course

Yes, you need an ATP...no ATP course

beech1980
07-15-2019, 07:02 PM
Yes, you need an ATP...no ATP course

I had heard a couple months ago they were looking at giving the ATP with the type ride. I guess they are in need of pilots.

Pull and Rotate
07-15-2019, 08:05 PM
I had heard a couple months ago they were looking at giving the ATP with the type ride. I guess they are in need of pilots.

Think they are referring to the new CTP course that needs to be taken prior to the ATP written.

Starlifter
07-15-2019, 11:30 PM
I had heard a couple months ago they were looking at giving the ATP with the type ride. I guess they are in need of pilots.

Hmm...good info! Hope you are well...see you soon.

R,

apex7
07-16-2019, 08:00 PM
Listen to beech. I didn't before I came here and am paying for it now. I earn less than I do at my regional , am getting called daily now on reserve and yup, they will stop calling or bring you right up to guarantee. Bunch of BS gone 5 days home for 2 , you will get no turn lines unless you sit here for 10 years as a senior FO by the looks of it. Living the dream I guess :confused:

3rdGen
07-16-2019, 09:09 PM
Listen to beech. I didn't before I came here and am paying for it now. I earn less than I do at my regional , am getting called daily now on reserve and yup, they will stop calling or bring you right up to guarantee. Bunch of BS gone 5 days home for 2 , you will get no turn lines unless you sit here for 10 years as a senior FO by the looks of it. Living the dream I guess :confused:

Iíve held many turns in and out of MSP with SY and Iíve been here a year. This job is what you make it, if you donít live in base you are going to hate life, unless you donít mind commuting on this schedule, but then again you should know already what to expect, I sat reserve for 6 months, held vacation relief lines and now holding normal line. Honestly I hate turn lines, having to drive to airport 3-4 days in a row just to be back home every night... Iíd rather go out in 3-4 day trips. Just my two cents, though.

phrogpi
07-23-2019, 11:58 PM
20 year Captain here. Worst QOL it has ever been. Gone for 5-6 days at a time with 12 days off....lucky to to have an 75-80 hour schedule and the abysmal work rules and the low hourly rate....you would make a lot more and have a better QOL at the majors on a 3rd year FO pay scale then I do.

Octagon
07-31-2019, 10:10 AM
Things sound kinda bleak there. Im just curious how long till your contract is up for negotiation and is there any timeline for PDX to be a base?

tolipenalpria
07-31-2019, 01:52 PM
Nov 2020. But negotiations can start 6 months before that.
No news on any new base, my guess is it will be in the new contract.

YerOnGuard
08-27-2019, 06:56 PM
Got offered an interview this week. Highly considering it, but wondering how bad QOL really is. Iíd be driving about 4 hours to MSP if I got selected. Just trying to determine how the schedule actually is and how long to expect to sit on reserve before being able to hold a line. When someone is a lineholder, what are the general trip lengths? Iím used to 4 day trips coming from the regionals, is it similar? My wife and I are expecting a baby in February, so just trying to see what everybodyís thoughts are.

Starchkr
08-27-2019, 09:44 PM
Reserve rules here are the worst Iíve heard of. 10 days off, 14 hr RAP, no long call or airport reserve. Thereís virtually no way to make extra money on reserve so plan on guarantee plus a little per diem.

Trips, once you can hold a line are anywhere from turns to 6 days. From what Iíve seen most of those long trips arenít very efficient. Lines run anywhere from as much as 18-20 days off for the most senior efficient lines to the minimum of 12 days off at right around guarantee.

The lines arenít built for commuters, period. Even with a 4hr drive it wouldnít be easy IMO.

Everything seems to be 10 years behind here. The contract is up in just over a year but itís very difficult to predict with any confidence what the companies approach will be. Even with the worst contract for a 737 operator in the U.S. it doesnít seem the company is interested in making negotiations easy, quite the contrary.

They do keep saying they want to grow. Right now they are planning to hire over 100 which would make the wait to get off reserve reasonable if you got in on the front end(6 months?).

Itís a good group here and the flying is better than the regionals IMO. That said, if I was a captain at a decent regional Iíd hold out for a more stable and lucrative prospect.

wannabee
08-28-2019, 07:01 AM
Got offered an interview this week. Highly considering it, but wondering how bad QOL really is. Iíd be driving about 4 hours to MSP if I got selected. Just trying to determine how the schedule actually is and how long to expect to sit on reserve before being able to hold a line. When someone is a lineholder, what are the general trip lengths? Iím used to 4 day trips coming from the regionals, is it similar? My wife and I are expecting a baby in February, so just trying to see what everybodyís thoughts are.

I had an interview a few weeks ago too. I deliberated for a while before accepting the job. My family and I are just going to move to Minneapolis and make the most of it. From the outside looking in, it seems like a good place to work if you live close to the airport. But Iím an FO at a regional, been on reserve for over a year and fly about 10 hrs a month with no prospect of change for at least another 6 months. So taking the leap made a lot of sense to me. But as said before, if youíre a captain at your regional then Iíd probably stick around if you have a pretty good QOL.

Iíd at least go to the interview. The experience was really great and everyone I met was awesome.

tolipenalpria
08-28-2019, 09:26 AM
I would agree with the previous 2 posts, I don't want to tell you what to do, but I can share some information. In our slow months, like Sept, we have 154 lines. Of which 85 are hard lines ranging from 18 to 13 days off. Credit between 89-70 hours. 20 vacation relief lines, which is high, mainly because they don't allow many vacations during the summer or the winter when we are busy. The other 49 lines are reserve, 10 days off, one block of 4 off, otherwise usually 2 off in-between. 14 hour RAP, start times are 3:00, 11:00 or 17:00.
I did about 6 months of reserve when I started. My guess is once the Max comes back online, majors will increase hiring and people might start to bail out of here again.
Not much info yet, and it shouldn't be a surprise, but they are looking at an IPO around April 2020. Our contract is up Nov 2020.
Good luck.

David Puddy
08-31-2019, 05:14 AM
Sun Country sounds like a decent place to go while you are applying to SWA. So many better options out there for people who meet the minimum hours and who actually know how to network effectively....

Jeff4912
09-05-2019, 03:28 PM
I had an interview a few weeks ago too. I deliberated for a while before accepting the job. My family and I are just going to move to Minneapolis and make the most of it. From the outside looking in, it seems like a good place to work if you live close to the airport. But Iím an FO at a regional, been on reserve for over a year and fly about 10 hrs a month with no prospect of change for at least another 6 months. So taking the leap made a lot of sense to me. But as said before, if youíre a captain at your regional then Iíd probably stick around if you have a pretty good QOL.

Iíd at least go to the interview. The experience was really great and everyone I met was awesome.

You sound like a QX pilot. I was in the same boat and donít blame you.