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juju
09-22-2019, 10:57 AM
I recently got my CPL sitting at 240TT SEL IR, and been applying to ALOT of jobs (willing to relocate). Surveying,pipeline, diver drivers,and many 135 operators. Unfortunately most jobs wouldn't even look at someone with just a cpl at 250 TT (not to talk about being below that). I dont have enough cash for CFI or Multi and its frustrating deciding what cause of action to do next.

Please i need serious advice. Thanks


Excargodog
09-22-2019, 11:40 AM
I recently got my CPL sitting at 240TT SEL IR, and been applying to ALOT of jobs (willing to relocate). Surveying,pipeline, diver drivers,and many 135 operators. Unfortunately most jobs wouldn't even look at someone with just a cpl at 250 TT (not to talk about being below that). I dont have enough cash for CFI or Multi and its frustrating deciding what cause of action to do next.

Please i need serious advice. Thanks


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CFI Guy
09-22-2019, 12:34 PM
Sorry to be so blunt, but you posted the same question a month ago and the advice you were given is still valid.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/career-questions/123804-trying-not-cfi-need-help-finding-gig.html

Most low time jobs require around 500 hours. Outside of flight training in a controlled environment (how you got your hours thus far) you have no experience. Insurance companies usually set this requirement for all the "low time" jobs in my area including traffic watch and banner towing.

If you are trying to get to 1500 as fast as possible, get your CFI certs from a busy school that guarantees you a job afterwards. You can easily fly 80-100 hours a month.

If you don't want to go this route then you'll need to find a way to build up to 500 hours. You may need to take another job (maybe a FBO lineman??) to make some cash and buy your hours / split time. This is the long route (and expensive) IMHO. I suggest getting a job if you need cash and get your CFI ratings.

You're getting frustrated because you're looking for a shortcut. I looked at the requirements for GVair (where it looks like you were interested at getting a job by searching your previous posts). I had a student who flew aerial mapping for them and is now at a regional.


(What Will Make You Stand Out (Preferred Qualifications)

You have a Multi-Engine License (strongly preferred, required in certain hub locations)
You have a CFI, CFII, or MEI
You have a High Performance Endorsement

There are people applying to this job who have some if not ALL these requirements. You might as well replace the word "preferred" with required. It's like when a major airline "prefers" a 4 year college degree. Good luck without it.


DrSmacFum
09-22-2019, 01:05 PM
I'm in the same situation my friend, and I'm around 350TT with my multi engine. No interviews at all so far.
I'm currently looking for a part time gig so I can afford the CFI checkride. It's hard work, but itll pay off in the end.

ESQ702
09-22-2019, 01:19 PM
500hrs is a minimum out there it seems. Look at shops like Key Lime and Cape Air as examples of this. Keep at it!

juju
09-22-2019, 04:14 PM
I'm in the same situation my friend, and I'm around 350TT with my multi engine. No interviews at all so far.
I'm currently looking for a part time gig so I can afford the CFI checkride. It's hard work, but itll pay off in the end.

you're right hard work but resiliency is key. we're going to make it bro

DrSmacFum
09-22-2019, 04:36 PM
you're right hard work but resiliency is key. we're going to make it bro

Absolutely! Best of luck to you man. Keep your head up! I know how frustrating it is to apply every where and not make any progress.

dera
09-22-2019, 06:12 PM
Get up to 135 VFR mins and you will get a job within a few weeks.

osuav8r
09-23-2019, 05:04 AM
Another job is the answer. I waited tables in college even after I was working as a cfi just to make extra cash. Anything that pays and will allow you to bank extra cash will help you get there. It's not fun, but the time passes quickly and I have good memories with the people I worked with so I don't regret it. The difference between people who made it and didn't make it is that the people who made it didn't quit when they had to do things the hard way. I watched a ton of my contemporaries quit after 9/11 and most of them work in an office right now and wish they were flying. Hang in there just a little longer and find another job to pay the bills!

juju
09-23-2019, 06:40 AM
Thats true. Thanks

SonicFlyer
09-23-2019, 07:34 AM
Have you checked with any Pictometry / EagleView vendors? They start hiring this time of year.

juju
09-23-2019, 09:28 AM
Have you checked with any Pictometry / EagleView vendors? They start hiring this time of year.

looks like no one would hire someone below 250tt and just a cpl ir

Dburg30
09-23-2019, 09:56 AM
STAR Marianas Air is where I got my 135 time if youíre willing to go that far away. Itís not for everybody and pay is low but you will build time and enjoy it while youíre there.

baseball
09-23-2019, 01:49 PM
I'm in the same situation my friend, and I'm around 350TT with my multi engine. No interviews at all so far.
I'm currently looking for a part time gig so I can afford the CFI checkride. It's hard work, but itll pay off in the end.

This is it!

If you need to take a loan do it. Time is money. Work an extra job. Do it the way Sergeant York did it. He worked day and night to get his piece of bottom land.

I worked a job in college plus air guard on the side. drove 5 hours one way for air guard duty.

Join the guard. The GI bill is great.