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preflight
10-01-2019, 05:13 AM
I noticed the latest door codes included one for CVG Base crew room.

Does that make it official? Anybody know how to get to CVG crew room?

Next vacancy bids for CVG?


FlyJay
10-01-2019, 05:36 AM
I noticed the latest door codes included one for CVG Base crew room.

Does that make it official? Anybody know how to get to CVG crew room?

Next vacancy bids for CVG?

There's been a shared DCI CVG crew room for quite awhile now.

ninerdriver
10-01-2019, 06:19 AM
Anybody know how to get to CVG crew room?

It's at the high end of the B-gates on the right.

When you find the room that looks like an office from Silent Hill, then you'll know that you made it.


preflight
10-01-2019, 06:57 AM
It's at the high end of the B-gates on the right.

When you find the room that looks like an office from Silent Hill, then you'll know that you made it.

Thanks, will check it out on my next 3 hour CVG sit...

Avroman
10-01-2019, 06:29 PM
CVG base, sure, just find a time machine that can take you back to 2005. You might find really cool airplanes based there too. :D But if you can pull that off, you'd need to look for the crew room over by gate A2 just before the escalator to the bus to the C concourse (you know, the deice ramp now) You'll probably find a couple flight attendants wasting their lives sitting ready reserve in a base that had 5-6 departures a day.

Casualinterest
10-01-2019, 08:40 PM
That RDU base just makes more sense [emoji6]


"Additionally, we are exploring options of an incremental crew base(s) in an effort to gain efficiencies (i.e., increase in block per duty)."


Or it could be both!!

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blindfayth
10-02-2019, 12:44 AM
We might find out next vacancy.

preflight
10-02-2019, 03:13 AM
We might find out next vacancy.

Anybody know if they have at least discussed Home Bases?

JulesWinfield
10-02-2019, 05:42 AM
Anybody know if they have at least discussed Home Bases?

Hahaha. Never going to happen.

vessbot
10-02-2019, 06:37 AM
I think that conversation was on track until they got distracted away by the $1000/block hour raise back-and-forth.

flyingmau5
10-06-2019, 06:40 AM
Hahaha. Never going to happen.

Never say never. ;)

Sperrysan
10-06-2019, 02:45 PM
Rumor is that the analysis results on a new base are supposed to be out within 2 months.

KelvinHelmholtz
10-06-2019, 02:57 PM
Rumor is that the analysis results on a new base are supposed to be out within 2 months.

Why do we need any more bases? Iíd rather them just staff the flying from DTW and NYC and grow those bases.

msprj2
10-06-2019, 03:12 PM
Why do we need any more bases? Iíd rather them just staff the flying from DTW and NYC and grow those bases.

Or MSP would be great

vessbot
10-06-2019, 03:15 PM
Or MSP would be great
Hmmmm...yeah
🤔👉

Casualinterest
10-06-2019, 03:28 PM
Why do we need any more bases? Iíd rather them just staff the flying from DTW and NYC and grow those bases.We do have a lot of commuters from cvg and rdu. It seems this is less about needing more bases and more about trying to cut the costs associated with the huge number of overnights we're going to have it both places.

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KelvinHelmholtz
10-06-2019, 04:16 PM
We do have a lot of commuters from cvg and rdu. It seems this is less about needing more bases and more about trying to cut the costs associated with the huge number of overnights we're going to have it both places.

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Is our CVG flying really increasing that much? Also seems pretty split between 200 and 900. Forcing people into outstation bases that will have completely uncommutable trips is a huge concession except for the few pilots who live there.

Casualinterest
10-06-2019, 04:56 PM
Is our CVG flying really increasing that much? Also seems pretty split between 200 and 900. Forcing people into outstation bases that will have completely uncommutable trips is a huge concession except for the few pilots who live there.Well there was an email or FOU or something with the anticipated RON count in each. I can't remember how many. I want to say it was over 10 RON's per night total. I'll look for it later.

You don't really know right now if they would be non-commutable though. RDU has a crazy number of routes. Even direct outstation routes like BDL, IND, etc.

Guess we'll find out when they do their analysis. Fwiw, Raleigh is an awesome place to live. I think a good number of people would move.



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JulesWinfield
10-07-2019, 04:43 AM
Heard LAX is the new base.

Casualinterest
10-07-2019, 05:10 AM
Heard LAX is the new base.Seems legit

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Mesabah
10-07-2019, 09:03 PM
That RDU base just makes more sense [emoji6]


"Additionally, we are exploring options of an incremental crew base(s) in an effort to gain efficiencies (i.e., increase in block per duty)."


Or it could be both!!

Sent from my SM-G965U using TapatalkWhen you combine our flying with G7, CVG has a lot more rons than RDU. Also, I think RDU has higher revenue potential leaning towards more mainline flights. CVG seems the most likely base choice, if we get another one.

Casualinterest
10-08-2019, 03:31 AM
When you combine our flying with G7, CVG has a lot more rons than RDU. Also, I think RDU has higher revenue potential leaning towards more mainline flights. CVG seems the most likely base choice, if we get another one.Yea probably [emoji853]

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ninerdriver
10-29-2019, 09:01 AM
Well, if we do get a CVG base, then I have a solid guess as to where our crew room will be.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/psa-airlines/125051-cvg-crew-base-closing-march-2020-a.html

blindfayth
10-29-2019, 02:55 PM
I'm really interested to see what comes out of the next vacancy.

FlyWhite
10-31-2019, 08:27 AM
So CVG base Vacancy tomorrow, or being a holiday do you think they will make us wait into next week?

overqualified52
10-31-2019, 09:38 AM
That was an old Styx song from my freshman year of high school in 79í .. 😂.we had a CVG base when I was an AVRO Captain . Mother Delta Lord already has CVG covered with a base ..

overqualified52
10-31-2019, 09:40 AM
Rumor is that the analysis results on a new base are supposed to be out within 2 months.

The analysis will say that Saskatoon will be the new base 😂

overqualified52
10-31-2019, 09:42 AM
That RDU base just makes more sense [emoji6]


"Additionally, we are exploring options of an incremental crew base(s) in an effort to gain efficiencies (i.e., increase in block per duty)."


Or it could be both!!

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Philknight
10-31-2019, 12:46 PM
. Probably Newark😂

Co-domicile with LGA, JFK, HPN and SWF.

wiggy15
10-31-2019, 12:54 PM
I have it on good authority that we will be transitioning to home basing.

Philknight
10-31-2019, 04:21 PM
I have it on good authority that we will be transitioning to home basing.

Who's home?

JulesWinfield
10-31-2019, 05:33 PM
I have it on good authority that we will be transitioning to home basing.


:D:D

Doubtful.

Green Needles
11-01-2019, 04:34 AM
Who's home?

Ed's. Filler.

42jeff
11-01-2019, 06:21 AM
Ed's. Filler.

I get dibs on the couch.

AimHigh1
11-01-2019, 08:59 AM
So CVG base Vacancy tomorrow, or being a holiday do you think they will make us wait into next week?

When do the Vacancy postings usually appear? I'm convinced it will have CVG on it. :cool:

FlyWhite
11-01-2019, 09:54 AM
When do the Vacancy postings usually appear? I'm convinced it will have CVG on it. :cool:

First week, every other month. So within the week is my guess.

blindfayth
11-01-2019, 04:37 PM
Next week seems likely

jody75881
11-02-2019, 03:44 PM
Next week seems likely

Word in training is the 6th

blindfayth
11-02-2019, 04:16 PM
Word in training is the 6th

That sounds about right. They usually come out the first week of every other month, towards the middle or end of said week.

Avroman
11-03-2019, 03:49 AM
Historically, IF there is a new base coming, you will see it show up several days before the bid opens if you look in your bid card. Also there is usually a memo reminding everyone to go look at said card to put the new options in the order you want with the current options. ;)

AimHigh1
11-03-2019, 06:16 AM
Historically, IF there is a new base coming, you will see it show up several days before the bid opens if you look in your bid card. Also there is usually a memo reminding everyone to go look at said card to put the new options in the order you want with the current options. ;)

"IF" *Facepalm* :confused:

Avroman
11-03-2019, 06:19 AM
"IF" *Facepalm* :confused:

Yes, IF. Remember how long we all thought SLC was going to be the next base? Any day now... for the better part of a year, then guess what showed up on the bid card...

Meow1215
11-03-2019, 06:57 AM
Yes, IF. Remember how long we all thought SLC was going to be the next base? Any day now... for the better part of a year, then guess what showed up on the bid card...

Big ďIFĒ and if that ďifĒ turns into a base it wonít be in 2020. Budget for next year is already done.

42jeff
11-03-2019, 09:00 AM
Yes, IF. Remember how long we all thought SLC was going to be the next base? Any day now... for the better part of a year, then guess what showed up on the bid card...

I wasn't here then..... Do tell

flyingfiddler
11-03-2019, 09:02 AM
I wasn't here then..... Do tell

Yeah, SLC was the hot talk when I hired on.

IAFDOF
11-03-2019, 09:41 AM
Yes, IF. Remember how long we all thought SLC was going to be the next base? Any day now... for the better part of a year, then guess what showed up on the bid card...

Does it rhyme with Blue Dork S#!+•?

wiggy15
11-03-2019, 11:16 AM
Big ďIFĒ and if that ďifĒ turns into a base it wonít be in 2020. Budget for next year is already done.

Unless the 2020 budget has the base in it...

Avroman
11-03-2019, 05:01 PM
Does it rhyme with Blue Dork S#!+•?

Not initially, that was after the two individual dumps were combined into one.

Avroman
11-03-2019, 05:06 PM
I wasn't here then..... Do tell

Back during the NWA/Delta merger we (Mesaba) were doing a lot of flying out of SLC (I seem to remember the peak being about 70 departures a day back in 2010 or 11) We even TDY'd maintenance there and I think they sent some instructors there to sit reserve since contractually they couldn't let line pilots sit out of base reserve there (even though several would have volunteered) because we didn't have a pilot base there. Needless to say this led to lots of speculation and assumption that SLC was just a vacancy away, but well, when is the last time you've flown into SLC?

Meow1215
11-04-2019, 09:27 AM
Should be an email on CVG today, or so Iím told after rambling around C-Tower today.

AimHigh1
11-04-2019, 12:04 PM
Big ďIFĒ and if that ďifĒ turns into a base it wonít be in 2020. Budget for next year is already done.

Obviously can't announce a new base and open it prior to the end of 2019.. It will be 2020, most likely February - March, and I'm leaning more towards March.

deerparkVOR
11-04-2019, 12:52 PM
I heard there is going to be an announcement today, maybe tomorrow. But I think news is coming soon, looks like CVG is a for sure thing.

AimHigh1
11-04-2019, 01:07 PM
I heard there is going to be an announcement today, maybe tomorrow. But I think news is coming soon, looks like CVG is a for sure thing.

That's old news. When they announce is the question now. :confused:

AimHigh1
11-05-2019, 08:43 AM
CVG has been announced! :D

"Opening the new domicile with 40 pilots and 40 flight attendants. We will grow the base throughout 2020 and expect CVG to eventually be similar in size to our MSP crew base. At this time, there are no other plans to open any additional crew bases in 2020."

prex8390
11-05-2019, 09:28 AM
So will CVG go junior or senior? Iím leaning about as senior as Atlanta. I bet a lot people commuting to Detroit might bite into it.

10L 4 Spacing
11-05-2019, 09:31 AM
I thought CVG was not in the "budget" for next year.

10L 4 Spacing
11-05-2019, 09:32 AM
So will CVG go junior or senior? Iím leaning about as senior as Atlanta. I bet a lot people commuting to Detroit might bite into it.

I need lots of "biters" so I can get DTW. Although CVG is driveable.

AimHigh1
11-05-2019, 09:39 AM
I thought CVG was not in the "budget" for next year.

:rolleyes:

AimHigh1
11-05-2019, 09:42 AM
So will CVG go junior or senior? Iím leaning about as senior as Atlanta. I bet a lot people commuting to Detroit might bite into it.

I think CA Senior FO Junior :confused:

chrisreedrules
11-05-2019, 09:42 AM
I thought CVG was not in the "budget" for next year.

Until PSA announced they are closing CVG in March of 2020. Actually a smart move. We have a lot of lifers in CVG who would rather stay at a regional and live in base than move/commute for PSA or a legacy. So itís possible it may have something to do with that.

AimHigh1
11-05-2019, 09:48 AM
Until PSA announced they are closing CVG in March of 2020. Actually a smart move. We have a lot of lifers in CVG who would rather stay at a regional and live in base than move/commute for PSA or a legacy. So itís possible it may have something to do with that.

This was in the works prior to that. But great timing though!

Flogger
11-05-2019, 10:07 AM
It's official.

Qute from company email:

Our recent growth announcement outlined the expansion of our fleet, team, and network as a result of the consolidation of the Delta Connection portfolio to three carriers. With our increased flying, we also committed to exploring the feasibility of a new crew base location to support our growing operation. Today, Iím pleased to announce that Endeavor will open a CRJ-700/900 crew base in Cincinnati, OH (CVG), making this our 6th domicile by the end of Q1 2020.

prex8390
11-05-2019, 12:05 PM
Also word of advice. This is also an ďoutstationĒ by all means for delta. For those that never worked at air whiskey and weíre based in orf. Think a lot of 0500 shows day 1 and post 1800 releases day 4. Being a Mx base means taking a lot of planes out of the hanger and putting a lot to bed. I would bid accordingly.

chrisreedrules
11-05-2019, 01:46 PM
Also word of advice. This is also an ďoutstationĒ by all means for delta. For those that never worked at air whiskey and weíre based in orf. Think a lot of 0500 shows day 1 and post 1800 releases day 4. Being a Mx base means taking a lot of planes out of the hanger and putting a lot to bed. I would bid accordingly.

Thatís what it was for PSA too. Early shows and late finishes.

Casualinterest
11-05-2019, 03:44 PM
I need lots of "biters" so I can get DTW. Although CVG is driveable.Dude if it's driveable.... No question. Do that

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10L 4 Spacing
11-05-2019, 04:43 PM
Y'all just want me to vacate ATL...I will oblige...if DTW will do some vacating.

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Casualinterest
11-05-2019, 04:47 PM
Y'all just want me to vacate ATL...I will oblige...if DTW will do some vacating.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using TapatalkYou're not wrong lol. But seriously if it's driveable. That's awesome

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ChuckMK23
11-09-2019, 07:47 AM
So as a new hire (I start class on Monday) whats the best way to ensure I get CVG as a base? I live literally just a few miles away from CVG in Northern KY.

Any advice would be appreciated. I assume the first goal is to be in the 700/900 out of training.

blindfayth
11-09-2019, 07:50 AM
So as a new hire (I start class on Monday) whats the best way to ensure I get CVG as a base? I live literally just a few miles away from CVG in Northern KY.

Any advice would be appreciated. I assume the first goal is to be in the 700/900 out of training.

1) Hope you get the 7/9 in training. It's not really up to you.
2) Be NYC based until a slot opens up in CVG for you. There will likely be additional positions opening up next year for it.
3) Enjoy being home-based once you get the award. It truly is a game-changer.

10L 4 Spacing
11-09-2019, 07:50 AM
List CVG as your top choice for all positions CA and FO

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KelvinHelmholtz
11-09-2019, 07:51 AM
So as a new hire (I start class on Monday) whats the best way to ensure I get CVG as a base? I live literally just a few miles away from CVG in Northern KY.

Any advice would be appreciated. I assume the first goal is to be in the 700/900 out of training.

Get the 700/900, or else you're going to be commuting for 18 months.

theUpsideDown
11-09-2019, 09:47 AM
So as a new hire (I start class on Monday) whats the best way to ensure I get CVG as a base? I live literally just a few miles away from CVG in Northern KY.

Any advice would be appreciated. I assume the first goal is to be in the 700/900 out of training.

It's a seniority based system. NYC isn't a popular new hire base, pilots senior to you will have first crack and you'll get the leftovers. Someday you'll be more senior.

Green Needles
11-09-2019, 11:03 AM
So as a new hire (I start class on Monday) whats the best way to ensure I get CVG as a base? I live literally just a few miles away from CVG in Northern KY.

Any advice would be appreciated. I assume the first goal is to be in the 700/900 out of training.

Enjoy NYC....

13pro
11-09-2019, 11:45 AM
So as a new hire (I start class on Monday) whats the best way to ensure I get CVG as a base? I live literally just a few miles away from CVG in Northern KY.

Any advice would be appreciated. I assume the first goal is to be in the 700/900 out of training.

Keep your fingers crossed. No one here knows how senior CVG will go. Rank it #1 on your list, and hope for the best. Also, make sure you bid for the 900 at all bases before any 200 slots. You can move from NYC to CVG if you are 900, but there will be no 200ís based in CVG, so youíll be stuck for 18 months if you get 200. Any 900 would be best for you.

FlyWhite
11-09-2019, 01:22 PM
We can pretty much guarantee cvg will be fairly senior, so as a new hire you will lucky to see it within 2 years. All the senior guys commuting from Msp and Dtw will jump at cvg. Then all the guys like you will be bidding it as well.

I'm guessing captains don't go past a #700 for a year. FOs #1500.

Enjoy NYC with a potential to ATL in a year.

Zerosilver84
11-09-2019, 02:10 PM
We can pretty much guarantee cvg will be fairly senior, so as a new hire you will lucky to see it within 2 years. All the senior guys commuting from Msp and Dtw will jump at cvg. Then all the guys like you will be bidding it as well.

I'm guessing captains don't go past a #700 for a year. FOs #1500.

Enjoy NYC with a potential to ATL in a year.


Could favor NH who wants Dtw since that's a quick easy commute for myself. Yes I'm prepared for NYC.. 12 fights a day to lga vs 6 to dtw.. Just assumed if people leave dtw reserve wouldn't be that bad especially with the idea of growth at dtw(?)

But we all know what happens when you assume

13pro
11-09-2019, 06:38 PM
We can pretty much guarantee cvg will be fairly senior, so as a new hire you will lucky to see it within 2 years. All the senior guys commuting from Msp and Dtw will jump at cvg. Then all the guys like you will be bidding it as well.

I'm guessing captains don't go past a #700 for a year. FOs #1500.

Enjoy NYC with a potential to ATL in a year.

I guess time will tell. What you say could make sense, as other than a select number of cities, the hubs are the only ones with single leg commute to CVG. I canít see anyone bidding for CVG that doesnít live in a base already, or somewhere with single legs to CVG. Thatís why it ďcouldĒ stay somewhat junior. Not to mention, some may hold off on bidding it for this vacancy just to see how junior it is or isnít.

Sperrysan
11-10-2019, 01:32 AM
I guess time will tell. What you say could make sense, as other than a select number of cities, the hubs are the only ones with single leg commute to CVG. I canít see anyone bidding for CVG that doesnít live in a base already, or somewhere with single legs to CVG. Thatís why it ďcouldĒ stay somewhat junior. Not to mention, some may hold off on bidding it for this vacancy just to see how junior it is or isnít.

Agree. If I lived MSP I would think DTW would be a better choice than CVG. More flights daily between the two hubs than CVG. However, I do forsee alot of 200 pilots taking whatever base they can to get the 7/900 if they were under the seat lock. That will push junior 900 peeps down even further.

invadertim
11-10-2019, 08:17 AM
Ya know when ATL opened up I thought it would go more senior than grannyís favorite shoes, but initially it didnít. If itís not absolutely a no brainer a lot of folks will hold off to see how things pan out.

And of course for you new guys, once you hold a base, you canít be forced out on a vacancy. Different story for a realignment and ect of course.

So, new guys bid it early if you really want it, you can even bid a new base in training, as long as your not changing seats or equipment you can have any base you can hold at your seniority.

As well, Iím not at all convinced CVG will be all that senior, itíll certainly go junior to MSP, and likely DTW & ATL. Depends on what sort of flying gets added. If DAL wants CVG to get back a bit of its former glory we could see a fair amount of new flying added next year.

theUpsideDown
11-10-2019, 08:53 AM
Ya know when ATL opened up I thought it would go more senior than grannyís favorite shoes, but initially it didnít. If itís not absolutely a no brainer a lot of folks will hold off to see how things pan out.

And of course for you new guys, once you hold a base, you canít be forced out on a vacancy. Different story for a realignment and ect of course.

So, new guys bid it early if you really want it, you can even bid a new base in training, as long as your not changing seats or equipment you can have any base you can hold at your seniority.

As well, Iím not at all convinced CVG will be all that senior, itíll certainly go junior to MSP, and likely DTW & ATL. Depends on what sort of flying gets added. If DAL wants CVG to get back a bit of its former glory we could see a fair amount of new flying added next year.

Good point, senior guys hate dealing with bases first spinning up, junior pilots lock it in early.

Zerosilver84
11-10-2019, 09:40 AM
Love to bid cvg..sucks it's a 2 leg commute (as of now) or 4.5hr drive for me.

prex8390
11-10-2019, 03:45 PM
As I said earlier. I think CVG will initially go senior and will trend more junior as people realize itís a un commutable base. Which itís gonna be. There isnít all too many direct flights unless you live in a hub. Also CVG to DTW is pretty difficult. Thereís a lot of mainline folk on that. My hypothesis was also agreed upon by management at recurrent that a vast majority of Trips will start early on day 1 and end late on go home day. If you live in the area, awesome, bid it. Itís living in base, canít go wrong there, if you commute, Buyer beware.

Casualinterest
11-10-2019, 05:25 PM
As I said earlier. I think CVG will initially go senior and will trend more junior as people realize itís a un commutable base. Which itís gonna be. There isnít all too many direct flights unless you live in a hub. Also CVG to DTW is pretty difficult. Thereís a lot of mainline folk on that. My hypothesis was also agreed upon by management at recurrent that a vast majority of Trips will start early on day 1 and end late on go home day. If you live in the area, awesome, bid it. Itís living in base, canít go wrong there, if you commute, Buyer beware.Raleigh would've been a way easier commute for some people.... Just saying haha

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invadertim
11-13-2019, 01:24 PM
Looks like the CVG Chief Pilot & Base Manager job openings have posted. While I'd like to see it sooner, I'm thinking the CVG base opens for business 3/1/20 or there about.

I wonder if we're going to see any TDY associated with this?

invadertim
12-03-2019, 05:42 PM
Looks like CVG went a fair amount more junior on the final award, at least on the captain side anyhow. I was really hoping theyíd have a move date for CVG on the final too, oh well.

Sperrysan
12-04-2019, 03:28 AM
Raleigh would've been a way easier commute for some people.... Just saying haha

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Rumor is it is coming next year. I heard it from an FA. Must be true.

Casualinterest
12-04-2019, 04:44 AM
Rumor is it is coming next year. I heard it from an FA. Must be true.Two years ago a FA was like, " oh you live in rdu? You know we're opening a base there!"

Oh really? Wow! Did you tell the company that??

Lol

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preflight
03-22-2020, 06:01 AM
Seemed like the Revised Bid showed LCR but I saw some communication saying no LCR at CVG. Anybody know more?

msprj2
03-22-2020, 06:55 AM
Seemed like the Revised Bid showed LCR but I saw some communication saying no LCR at CVG. Anybody know more?
think it stated 7 or less SC only. 8 or more SC & LC.

ninerdriver
03-22-2020, 09:44 AM
think it stated 7 or less SC only. 8 or more SC & LC.
Captains have enough reserves to get LCR in CVG. FOs do not.