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airplane401
01-23-2020, 04:07 PM
What’s the deal with Mesa getting a new contract soon? Or just new hire rumor nonsense?


KCaviator
01-23-2020, 04:16 PM
What’s the deal with Mesa getting a new contract soon? Or just new hire rumor nonsense?

Yes, Mesa is in negotiations to take subpar pay to fly 737s. Just like they’ve done their entire existence.

NovemberBravo
01-24-2020, 07:46 AM
What’s the deal with Mesa getting a new contract soon? Or just new hire rumor nonsense?

no new contract on the horizon maybe when attrition picks up but for now no.


Avgeek7248
01-24-2020, 03:23 PM
I don’t see us getting a new contract for at least a couple years. You already know they’re gonna drag negotiations out. I could careless about those stupid 737’s.

love2bflying
03-05-2020, 05:00 AM
I don’t see us getting a new contract for at least a couple years. You already know they’re gonna drag negotiations out. I could careless about those stupid 737’s.

well the short answer is “No New Contract” in the near future.

the long answer.... our current contract is only 2 1/2 years old and doesn’t even become eligible for us to begin the negotiations of anew contract till next year. That being said, IF, and I stress the IF, the company wanted to be proactive in preventing attrition they can negotiate an amendment to the current contract with (I believe, and don’t quote me in this) with a two year extension. This really would be in the company’s best interest as we need to get more bodies in the door, and we are entering the “posturing phase” of contract negotiations with American (don’t roll your eyes).

ninerdriver
03-05-2020, 05:18 AM
and we are entering the “posturing phase” of contract negotiations with American (don’t roll your eyes).

JO: "We want to keep flying for you, but you need to stop smashing into all of our planes." *postures*

coodrough568
03-05-2020, 08:18 PM
well the short answer is “No New Contract” in the near future.

the long answer.... our current contract is only 2 1/2 years old and doesn’t even become eligible for us to begin the negotiations of anew contract till next year. That being said, IF, and I stress the IF, the company wanted to be proactive in preventing attrition they can negotiate an amendment to the current contract with (I believe, and don’t quote me in this) with a two year extension. This really would be in the company’s best interest as we need to get more bodies in the door, and we are entering the “posturing phase” of contract negotiations with American (don’t roll your eyes).


I flew there from 17-19, maybe I'm wrong but I thought the current contract was signed in 2016, and expires in 2021. I still have a lot of friends flying at Mesa, and finding enough pilots to keep new hire classes full doesn't sound like an issue for the company. As long as that's the case, JO will change nothing. I never understood it, with the reputation that Mesa has, you would think them, out of all regionals, would be hurting the most.

By the way I actually enjoyed flying there, I have nothing too bad to say about it. I knew what it was when I accepted the job. I do hope to see y'all get a new contract with a lot of improvements on it next time. You all deserve it.

EconSpeed
03-07-2020, 07:28 AM
A very senior guy in IAD who is going to the 737 instead of the 175 told me that the next time the company meets with the Union to renegotiate the 737 pay scales that they want them to set new pay scales company wide. Just a crew room rumor but the guy who told me that is a very respectable LCA. I guess time will tell.

NovemberBravo
03-07-2020, 08:36 AM
I’m sure the union wants it, I’ll be surprised if it happens.

pangolin
03-09-2020, 06:50 AM
I’m sure the union wants it, I’ll be surprised if it happens.

I won’t. Here’s why. What we need is QOL improvements. We need commuter hotels. Duty rigs. 12 instead of 11days off, decent per diem, and some language to stop unstacking that is used to cover an understaffed airline. The money will come as the company cannot retain pilots. They showed that as the didn’t exercise their right to reduce starting FO pay year over year. So raising pay, pushing out the amenable date without any other concessions is in their best interest.

backtoregionals
03-09-2020, 09:16 AM
I won’t. Here’s why. What we need is QOL improvements. We need commuter hotels. Duty rigs. 12 instead of 11days off, decent per diem, and some language to stop unstacking that is used to cover an understaffed airline. The money will come as the company cannot retain pilots. They showed that as the didn’t exercise their right to reduce starting FO pay year over year. So raising pay, pushing out the amenable date without any other concessions is in their best interest.

We probably won’t be understaffed for the next few months until UAL resumes regular schedules...

NovemberBravo
03-09-2020, 11:46 AM
We probably won’t be understaffed for the next few months until UAL resumes regular schedules...

yeah I was counting on 300% this summer. Probably not happening now

pangolin
03-09-2020, 11:49 AM
yeah I was counting on 300% this summer. Probably not happening now

Don’t despair. I think we will see it.