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kalyx522
05-14-2007, 08:44 AM
Thanks guys for the response to my "Big Sky or Colgan" thread a little while back. I chose Colgan. While it's far from my dream company (I don't even know if I have a dream company within the regionals), I thought maybe it will work out after all and I could actually stay in this company till I upgrade instead of the lateral moves that I would have inevitably made had I gone with Piedmont or Comair which were initially my top choices. (And if you're wondering why I would've had to make lateral moves, it's cuz upgrade at both companies are super long.)

Now I have another choice, Trans States. Again, this is kind of a toughie cuz neither is hugely better than the other. If I went with Colgan I would probably stay long enough to upgrade. Of course I might end up hating the company but if the upgrade is 1.5-2 years, then I would really try to stay instead of making a lateral move and prolonging the process of getting that turbine PIC. If I went with Trans States I would probably stay just a few months (if that) and then go grab that sign-on bonus at RAH afterwards.

I've read many threads here on Trans States but never in relation to Colgan. what do yall think.


cruiseclimb
05-14-2007, 08:49 AM
Maybe it's me, but I think it's wrong to go to a company with the intention of leaving in a couple of months. Can you get into RAH now, or do you still need a few hours to meet the mins?

mregan
05-14-2007, 08:49 AM
I was offered an interview at Colgan and didnt except it. They seem decent esp. if you live n base as you are home every night, upgrade is less than 2 years and they have the Q400s on the way. I dont really know too much about TSA except that their training is tough, they are all jets, i believe. Pay isnt that bad but thats all i really know. I applied to the m a few weeks ago and havent heard back yet. Good luck. ARe you employed 121 right now?


POPA
05-14-2007, 09:03 AM
Pay isnt that bad but thats all i really know.

I guess you're talking about some sort of Trans States other than the one Hulas owns...

VTcharter
05-14-2007, 09:05 AM
Thanks guys for the response to my "Big Sky or Colgan" thread a little while back. I chose Colgan. While it's far from my dream company (I don't even know if I have a dream company within the regionals), I thought maybe it will work out after all and I could actually stay in this company till I upgrade instead of the lateral moves that I would have inevitably made had I gone with Piedmont or Comair which were initially my top choices. (And if you're wondering why I would've had to make lateral moves, it's cuz upgrade at both companies are super long.)

Now I have another choice, Trans States. Again, this is kind of a toughie cuz neither is hugely better than the other. If I went with Colgan I would probably stay long enough to upgrade. Of course I might end up hating the company but if the upgrade is 1.5-2 years, then I would really try to stay instead of making a lateral move and prolonging the process of getting that turbine PIC. If I went with Trans States I would probably stay just a few months (if that) and then go grab that sign-on bonus at RAH afterwards.

I've read many threads here on Trans States but never in relation to Colgan. what do yall think.

Be careful with your train of thought here. With this industry, especially in the present, you shouldn't go to a company with plans on leaving in a few months for something better that may or may not exist when a few months rolls around. What would happen if the industry takes a dump tomorrow and hiring slows, signing bonuses go away and you are stuck at a carrier that you despise. Think about these things as you make your choices. Go somewhere that you think you could be happy for a while, and if something better comes along down the road, worry about taking it at that time.

mregan
05-14-2007, 09:11 AM
My apologies, I meant Colgan 's pay isntbad for an all turbo prop airline. I must ve acccidentally deleted that sentence, TSA i have no comment about as I dont know enough about the comapny.

kalyx522
05-14-2007, 09:35 AM
cruiseclimb - yeah, I do agree that it feels.. wrong. But then again, if companies wanted to retain employees, then maybe they should proactively try to improve the conditions at their company so employees would WANT to stay forever and ever. is RAH's mins still 1000/100? if so, I'm still 300 short on TT and 50 short on ME. It's not so hard to get another part 91 job to increase my TT, but the only way to get more ME time is to buy it.. I just can't justify buying 50 ME in this job market right now. (and I don't have the $ even if I wanted to buy the time!)
mregan - no, not currently employed at 121, but the class for colgan starts soon.
vtcharter - good point... who knows if RAH (or any of the other upper tier regionals) will be hiring 5 months from now. who knows....

jtf560
05-14-2007, 09:37 AM
I personally hope you go to Trans States, get the training, and bail ASAP because I was there and got screwed repeatedly and I wish bad things for Hulas. I get a smile whenever I hear about someone escaping to something better- especially Captains I know who took the crap long enough and really new guys who cost the scum sucker a big load of training cash and get almost nothing in return. I can't stress enough how much of a scumbag Hulas is and that you WILL be screwed by the guy if you stay any appreciable amount of time. The crews themselves are a great bunch to fly with, but management is especially evil there. Good luck in this gamble of a career that most of us just can't quit.

kalyx522
05-14-2007, 09:42 AM
jtf560 - uhm, could you elaborate on how you got screwed? are you at a better place now? do you think Trans States was a big waste of time and energy or did it help in getting you a better 121 job afterwards? would it be a huge risk to go there given their washout reputation?

kansas
05-14-2007, 10:46 AM
3 regionals in less than a year (not sure how long you've been at Colgan) would not look good in ANY interview (including RAH/CHQ). Think about what the guys down the road (majors/lcc's) would think about having that on your resume. Stick it out, stay the course, get it done, and get the heck out.

Good luck.

flynavyj
05-14-2007, 11:42 AM
agreed, granted you haven't started class at colgan, so it wouldn't like quite as bad, but lateral moves do have the potential to follow you, however, talk to some captains, and they'll tell you that it won't matter one bit.

Trans States has a very "questionable" future, granted you have no intentions of sticking it out, upgrade time @ TSA is very low, but theres the potential for street captains right around the corner, which will take the uber short upgrade and drag it out some when they're hired later this summer. There's also some uncertainty with what could happen to united if they decide to ditch the 50 pax flying for something more larger, say....a crj-700 operated by an alter ego you happen to know.

STR8NLVL
05-16-2007, 07:57 AM
I'd definitely choose Colgan over TSA. Colgan's got it's cons, but they're growing with the addition of the of the Q's. That should drop upgrade to about a year and a half for guys starting in right now, so you'd be starting at a good time. Go, put in your time, get the quick upgrade, and move on.

Another bonus to working there is that you'll fly with guys a month at a time, so you get to know the captain really well, then they move on to places like SWA, CO, DL, etc. So, you get references at the majors.

I'd say it'd be a great choice for a place to move on to the majors in the shortest time.

I've not heard much positive about TSA.