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theG3NERAL
03-09-2020, 09:37 PM
Hello! I am new to this forum. After browsing through some Endeavor articles, I have seen some people that have said that you need a bachelorís degree to get hired at Endeavor. Is this the case or not? If not, would a bachelorís degree help in the hiring process? Also, how competitive is the hiring process at Endeavor?

Right now, my plan is to do my flight training first (then build time as a CFI) and then get my bachelorís degree while working for a regional airline. However, I could change plans as I havenít started flight training yet.

As of right now, my goal is to ultimately work for Delta and be based in Atlanta. I would prefer to fly for Endeavor because of the Delta Guaranteed Interview Program.

Thanks in advance for your help!


Mesabah
03-09-2020, 09:47 PM
A degree is not required for Endeavor, however, it is required for the DGI.

Casualinterest
03-10-2020, 04:12 AM
Hello! I am new to this forum. After browsing through some Endeavor articles, I have seen some people that have said that you need a bachelorís degree to get hired at Endeavor. Is this the case or not? If not, would a bachelorís degree help in the hiring process? Also, how competitive is the hiring process at Endeavor?



Right now, my plan is to do my flight training first (then build time as a CFI) and then get my bachelorís degree while working for a regional airline. However, I could change plans as I havenít started flight training yet.



As of right now, my goal is to ultimately work for Delta and be based in Atlanta. I would prefer to fly for Endeavor because of the Delta Guaranteed Interview Program.



Thanks in advance for your help!Like mesabah said. You'll need it for the DGI. It definitely helps during the interview, technically it's preferred because they want to hire people who will be successful in their Delta interview. But depending on when you interview you'll be absolutely fine without it. I know a bunch of people hired here without one. Good luck

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Baradium
03-10-2020, 02:57 PM
Hello! I am new to this forum. After browsing through some Endeavor articles, I have seen some people that have said that you need a bachelorís degree to get hired at Endeavor. Is this the case or not? If not, would a bachelorís degree help in the hiring process? Also, how competitive is the hiring process at Endeavor?

Right now, my plan is to do my flight training first (then build time as a CFI) and then get my bachelorís degree while working for a regional airline. However, I could change plans as I havenít started flight training yet.

As of right now, my goal is to ultimately work for Delta and be based in Atlanta. I would prefer to fly for Endeavor because of the Delta Guaranteed Interview Program.

Thanks in advance for your help!

If your goal is Delta, it is best to do your degree normally at a college so you can complete it in 4-5 years and then start flying after that. Delta is big on where you got your degree, what kind of degree (as far as either aviation or showing difficulty), and how long it took you to get it. Same applies to flight training. An accredited collegiate program or military for flight training is best.

overqualified52
03-10-2020, 04:02 PM
If your goal is Delta, it is best to do your degree normally at a college so you can complete it in 4-5 years and then start flying after that. Delta is big on where you got your degree, what kind of degree (as far as either aviation or showing difficulty), and how long it took you to get it. Same applies to flight training. An accredited collegiate program or military for flight training is best.
as long as you have a 4 year , it could be a 4 year in finger painting , they donít care . Previous generations of airlines focused on skill , hours and experience as well as paying ones dues , but now itís more focused on the 4 year degree thing . I guarantee that passengers only care about if the pilot knows what they are doing , especially in an emergency. The business or basket weaving degree or any other degree does not fly airplanes and make skilled decisions , the pilots do . Considering Endeavor pilots are already flying Delta Jets and Passengers and they pay us and own us already , if one does not have a 4 year now then it would seem beyond silly to say that all of a sudden you need a 4 year to just simply move up and go to training on a 717 or whatever . If one does not have a 4 year to fly a Delta RJ9 , then why would one need a 4 year to Fly a Delta 717 ? Itís beyond silly . Especially to those pilots who have been here for 25 plus years and have like 23,000 hours . The propel thing is a further kick in the marbles . But then again , Big D probably wonít be hiring for a long while now ,so the DGI enhancement is suddenly not worth anything .

Air Guitar
03-11-2020, 08:58 AM
A degree is not required for Endeavor, however, it is required for the DGI.
Can you opt in to the DGI after you earn your degree after say year 2 or year 3 at EDV? Or do you need it by the time you start with the company to be eligible?

Mesabah
03-11-2020, 09:04 AM
Can you opt in to the DGI after you earn your degree after say year 2 or year 3 at EDV? Or do you need it by the time you start with the company to be eligible?
Yes, you can complete your degree while working here, but I recommend completing it before, since working at a regional can be pretty hectic at times. I got hired at Mesaba my senior year of college with the same plan as you, but if I had not gotten furloughed, I don't know if I would have been able to finish.

Baradium
03-12-2020, 03:49 PM
as long as you have a 4 year , it could be a 4 year in finger painting , they donít care . Previous generations of airlines focused on skill , hours and experience as well as paying ones dues , but now itís more focused on the 4 year degree thing . I guarantee that passengers only care about if the pilot knows what they are doing , especially in an emergency. The business or basket weaving degree or any other degree does not fly airplanes and make skilled decisions , the pilots do . Considering Endeavor pilots are already flying Delta Jets and Passengers and they pay us and own us already , if one does not have a 4 year now then it would seem beyond silly to say that all of a sudden you need a 4 year to just simply move up and go to training on a 717 or whatever . If one does not have a 4 year to fly a Delta RJ9 , then why would one need a 4 year to Fly a Delta 717 ? Itís beyond silly . Especially to those pilots who have been here for 25 plus years and have like 23,000 hours . The propel thing is a further kick in the marbles . But then again , Big D probably wonít be hiring for a long while now ,so the DGI enhancement is suddenly not worth anything .

I think you missed the memo about how whining about how you've always flown passengers while always working at a regional doesn't actually entitle you to a job just because your regional later became a wholly owned. Your entire career a 4 year degree has been required, so it's not like you were surprised by a generational change, you just apparently never took going to a major seriously and now think it's an entitlement. And yes, they care about more than just that it's a 4 year degree.