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RedOverWhite
09-07-2007, 10:59 AM
Rode on a B6 E190 yesterday for the first time in daylight. The deck angle on climbout shocked me - it was like being on a mini 75-. I hope I didn't startle the other passengers with my child-like giggling...

What do you guys pitch to when you rotate?

Nice, nice plane. Now to just get the 190 payscale to where it should be...


KiloAlpha
09-07-2007, 11:02 AM
FWIW, the 170 initially pitches to 11 (F2 T/O) degrees then pitches for v2 at approximately 15 degrees. I had a nearly empty 175 the other day and we had a pitch of 21 degrees with a no flex T/O :D

JoeyMeatballs
09-07-2007, 11:10 AM
FWIW, the 170 initially pitches to 11 (F2 T/O) degrees then pitches for v2 at approximately 15 degrees. I had a nearly empty 175 the other day and we had a pitch of 21 degrees with a no flex T/O :D

Kilo, you and I both know, nothing and I mean nothing can climb like the SAAB in heat....................


KiloAlpha
09-07-2007, 11:19 AM
haha or an A model with the engine A/I on :eek:

bintynogin
09-07-2007, 11:32 AM
Kilo, you and I both know, nothing and I mean nothing can climb like the SAAB in heat....................

I will have to say the Q400 put the SABB and all other turboprops to shame

SabreDriver
09-07-2007, 11:34 AM
Departed DFW the other day in a Whale that was completely EMPTY :eek: Climbed like a scalded dog! Got to FL400 in under 18 minutes :cool:

jungleguppy
09-07-2007, 11:40 AM
Initial pitch is comanded on the FD to rotate to 17 degrees on the 190, after a short delay, it goes into a speed hold mode. It is a high angle of pitch on rotation.

DLAJ77
09-07-2007, 11:49 AM
I will have to say the Q400 put the SABB and all other turboprops to shame

i think they might have both flew a sabb and i would bet there being a little sarcastic...lol

KiloAlpha
09-07-2007, 11:51 AM
...i would bet there being a little sarcastic...

very much so

ERJ135
09-07-2007, 04:48 PM
I have to say I flew the E135 on a repo the other day empty. What a rocket. To maintain our 200kts on accel alt the pitch was way the hell nose high. Thats all I can say. Didn't see the pitch degrees but, I felt like I was in the space shuttle.

FlyerJosh
09-08-2007, 08:03 AM
I saw, ummm, 30 degrees (yeah... 30... it couldn't have been any higher or else we would have needed parachutes...) nose up once on an empty repo where we climbed up at V2 to 10000'.

Reggie Dunlop
09-08-2007, 08:45 AM
How responsible. I guess the lessons from Pinnacle were lost on some of the hair gel crowd.

VTcharter
09-08-2007, 10:16 AM
How responsible. I guess the lessons from Pinnacle were lost on some of the hair gel crowd.

How is operating an aircraft within its performance envelope irresponsible?? I believe that there was much more than climbing within the envelope going on that lead to the Pinnacle crash. Lets compare:

Climbing at V2 : within the performance limits of the airframe

Pinnacle : Operating above the max altitude in the area of coffin corner, switching seats, improper restart procedures, overflying emergency airports...

Yep...these are one in the same in the responsibility arena!! ;)



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