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crewdawg52
09-12-2007, 07:04 AM
Press Release Source: US Airways

Ready to Fly? US Airways to Hire 350 New Pilots
Wednesday September 12, 11:00 am ET
Airline also recalls 140 pilots currently flying for regional carriers

TEMPE, Ariz., Sept. 12 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- US Airways today announced plans to hire more than 350 new pilots with training dates beginning in November 2007. The airline will also move 140 pilots, who currently fly for US Airways Express carriers, back to the mainline flying seats they were furloughed from several years ago. The airline's pilot staffing needs are being driven primarily by retiring mainline pilots. New hire pilots will move onto the airline's growing Embraer 190 fleet, which in turn will drive current pilots to other aircraft like the Boeing 737 and Airbus A320 family.

President Scott Kirby stated, "It was only two short years ago that both the former US Airways' and America West's futures were in the air. To stand strong two years later and announce that not only will we no longer have any pilots on furlough, but also will begin to hire new pilots is simply great news for our employees and our airline. Our pilots are among the most experienced and professional in our industry, and we look forward to welcoming our returning pilots from our Express partners as well as new pilots to our airline."

Positions will be filled over the next 12 to 16 months. The airline's Philadelphia base is home to Embraer 190 flying. Candidates can find qualifications and apply on-line at www.usairways.com/careers or by clicking the Careers link online at www.usairways.com.

US Airways is the fifth largest domestic airline employing more than 36,000 aviation professionals worldwide. US Airways, US Airways Shuttle and US Airways Express operate approximately 3,800 flights per day and serve more than 230 communities in the U.S., Canada, Europe, the Caribbean and Latin America. The new US Airways -- the product of a merger between America West and US Airways in September 2005 -- is a member of the Star Alliance network, which offers our customers 16,000 daily flights to 855 destinations in 155 countries worldwide. This press release and additional information on US Airways can be found at www.usairways.com. (LCCG)


Flyby1206
09-12-2007, 07:19 AM
Couldnt find anything on their careers page about minimums, nothing posted yet?

TriStar_drvr
09-12-2007, 08:19 AM
I wonder if I'll finally get called back for phase 2.... :rolleyes:


Xray678
09-12-2007, 03:48 PM
serious question.....given all the turmoil at USAir now and in the foreseeable future, who would go there?

tone
09-12-2007, 03:54 PM
serious question.....given all the turmoil at USAir now and in the foreseeable future, who would go there?

Wonder if they will rescind the hiring plans anyway given thet the age 65 thing passed today.. hope not.

Worldguy
09-12-2007, 03:56 PM
So many of the folks that were furloughed will NEVER go back, for a multitude of reasons. I know a good number of 15+ year guys, and know some FAs too, married one, that will never go back. But, good luck to the new hires, I think..

Cheers,
WG

JoeyMeatballs
09-12-2007, 03:56 PM
serious question.....given all the turmoil at USAir now and in the foreseeable future, who would go there?

I know a lot of people that would gladly make the move, mostly becuase its their hometown Airline, i think that ha s alot to do with it, I have spoken to a few CAL F/O's that are leaving for either DAL, United, or even a few that want to go to NWA, Commuting is a ***** (from what I am told) and like CAL's pay & contract the pay can really only go up (for now)

JoeyMeatballs
09-12-2007, 03:57 PM
Wonder if they will rescind the hiring plans anyway given thet the age 65 thing passed today.. hope not.

well not official yet though.........

Worldguy
09-12-2007, 04:01 PM
Plenty of folks will fly shiny jets for food too......and so here we are...this is our future.....I should have been a hedge fund manager....maybe in my next life I won't have a conscience.......but...good luck....

Cheers,
WG

jetlaggy
09-12-2007, 04:07 PM
Wonder if they will rescind the hiring plans anyway given thet the age 65 thing passed today.. hope not.

NOT

September 12, 2007


By an 88-7 vote, the Senate today passed its FY'08 Transportation Appropriations bill with one important modification: At the urging of ALPA, it added the “Oberstar language” that ALPA has supported for any legislative directives to change the mandatory pilot retirement age rule.
The Senate version of this bill now must be reconciled with the House-passed Transportation Appropriations bill, which does not address changing the rule. (The Oberstar language is contained in the House FAA reauthorization bill.) ALPA will provide a more detailed status update on this legislation in a future FastRead.

L1a4u4r0a
09-12-2007, 05:36 PM
Here's the mins, you have to click the apply button and then if you answer no to any of the questions it says you do not meet the minimums:

* 1. Do you have 1500 hours Turboprop/turbojet flight time?
Yes No
* 2. Do you have an FAA Commercial/Instrument/Multi-engine Land Ratings?
Yes No
* 3. Do you have an Air Transport Pilot Rating or successful completion of the ATP Written Exam?
Yes No
* 4. Do you have an FCC Radiotelephone operator permit?
Yes No
* 5. Do you have a FAA First Class Medical?
Yes No
* 6. Are you 21 years of age?
Yes No
* 7. Do you have a Four-year college degree?(preferred but not required)
Yes No
* 8. Do you have a current passport?
Yes No
* 9. Do you have the legal right to work in the US?
Yes No
* 10. Are you fluent(read,write and speak) in English?
Yes No

aircraftdriver
09-12-2007, 06:17 PM
Here's the mins, you have to click the apply button and then if you answer no to any of the questions it says you do not meet the minimums:

* 1. Do you have 1500 hours Turboprop/turbojet flight time?
Yes No
* 2. Do you have an FAA Commercial/Instrument/Multi-engine Land Ratings?
Yes No
* 3. Do you have an Air Transport Pilot Rating or successful completion of the ATP Written Exam?
Yes No
* 4. Do you have an FCC Radiotelephone operator permit?
Yes No
* 5. Do you have a FAA First Class Medical?
Yes No
* 6. Are you 21 years of age?
Yes No
* 7. Do you have a Four-year college degree?(preferred but not required)
Yes No
* 8. Do you have a current passport?
Yes No
* 9. Do you have the legal right to work in the US?
Yes No
* 10. Are you fluent(read,write and speak) in English?
Yes No


One could argue they are Delta style mins!

tantrum
09-13-2007, 06:27 AM
So, they're only hiring 21 year olds?:D

captscott26
09-13-2007, 07:02 AM
It prob just user error, but is anyone else having trouble with the online app? I get all the way to the end where it says to verify everything is true, then a screen comes up that says input to large for space provided....or something like that. I looked over the whole thing and cant seem to find anything that would cause such a problem.

citationdrvrmob
09-13-2007, 07:21 AM
Ok, 1500 Turbine time to fly an E-190? Who are they kidding?

rickair7777
09-13-2007, 07:26 AM
OK, so where are the E190's based? PHL & CLT?

And what's the seat lock?

LR45DRIVER
09-13-2007, 07:41 AM
It prob just user error, but is anyone else having trouble with the online app? I get all the way to the end where it says to verify everything is true, then a screen comes up that says input to large for space provided....or something like that. I looked over the whole thing and cant seem to find anything that would cause such a problem.

Not user error. I am having the same problem as well.

cheeseheadcrj
09-13-2007, 09:13 AM
I get to the end and its just a blank screen. Not too supprising as most of airways computer stuff doesn't work these days. (kiosks, gate printers, timetables, etc....)

atpcliff
09-14-2007, 07:28 AM
Hi!

Another poster said they were having problems with the app-hope to have it fixed by Fri (today) or Mon (9.17).

Good luck!

cliff
GRB

Lighteningspeed
09-14-2007, 08:13 AM
I fly jets but I never understood why so many airlines are hung up on turbine time. They should be more concerned with applicant's attitude and the willingness to put up with BS that will be thrown at that during training.

swaayze
09-14-2007, 10:11 AM
E190s in PHL only right now. 12 mo seat lock afaik unless it's different for street folk.

HercDriver130
09-14-2007, 11:13 AM
I got it to take mine at the end.

edznaz
09-14-2007, 12:00 PM
Just had it completed, and then got an error. Just a little frustrating!!!!

Z

edznaz
09-14-2007, 03:31 PM
Got it to work on the fourth try. Do not use "back" button and it seems ok.

HercDriver130
09-14-2007, 04:23 PM
also...use the "buttons" at the top when instead of the NEXT page feature..it kept giving me a DB Oracle error until I used the top buttons.

Jared
09-14-2007, 05:36 PM
Step one to see if you are the right kind of person to work there: How much hassle can you tolerate in order to finish the application?

It sort of reminds me of mesa's interview fee- yet another level of screening, intentional or not.

Don't get me wrong... I finished my application this morning after only 4 or so tries. All of my problems were with the little HR bit at the end. If the IT department at the mainline is anything like the one for our wholly-owned carrier, this is business as usual.

Our company president put out a letter today that sounded pretty fishy, almost implying that though there will be preference for the wholly owned pilots, they may be coordinating a release as to not have a huge exodus. He didn't say that directly, but he sort of left the door open. To me it sounds more like a penalty than a preference!

captscott26
09-15-2007, 05:51 AM
also...use the "buttons" at the top when instead of the NEXT page feature..it kept giving me a DB Oracle error until I used the top buttons.

What top buttons are you referring to.....I dont see anything at the top of the application....only buttons are on the bottom, back and next.

HercDriver130
09-15-2007, 09:56 AM
there were like the five parts of the HR part... circles with lines between them .... you can click on them and move from page to page.

captscott26
09-16-2007, 01:40 PM
there were like the five parts of the HR part... circles with lines between them .... you can click on them and move from page to page.

Well Im not sure what Im doing wrong, but I just dont see anything like that, just The US Air logo on top. Hopefully they will get it working right soon....Im getting tired off filling the thing out!

Jettubby
09-17-2007, 05:40 PM
Hello all. I rarely post here as there is a lot of negativity and flaming but what the heck I'll put my neck out to help those that are seriously considering working at AAA.

I just came back from over 5 years of furlough to the 190. Took the first thing available but that's another story. Regardless of what some say the 190 is a good airplane. It's state of the art, LCD screens with lots of automation. More than a CRJ and a hair less than the Little Bus. It's a good size airplane that is bigger than a DC9 & fun to fly. We're configured 88 coach and 11 first class seats. We have 6 airplanes and getting 2 per month until we get our 25 orders and then we have options on 30 more 190/195s. All planes for now are based in PHL and although there is nothing official, CLT looks to be a reasonable possibility when we get more airplanes.

The training is AQP (Advanced Qualification Program) and was created by our fleet captain who is one of the creators of AQP and what all other fleet's training are being modeled after. The training is very good and the check airmen and instructors are top notch. Really super guys and none of that petty empire building garbage. Every Captain I've flown with on the aircraft has been great and fun to fly with. I'm not sure about first year pay I believe it's somewhere in the $40's per hour. We have a long call (9hr) and short call (1.5hrs). As recalls finish their year lock they are bidding off the 190 for more pay. Bottom line is FO's are moving up quick and becoming block holders within several months. A lot of the lines are day trips because it was a new airplane but every month we are getting more 2, 3, & 4 days. If you live in base it's a good life. At the moment reserves aren't working a lot but that's subject to change. 72hr guarantee for long call and 76hr guarantee for short call.

Now to the ugly. As most of you know things here haven't been peachy. The seniority award will get worked out, we will get a better contract, and it's no secret that Doug Parker is looking to buy or merge with another carrier. Things are far from perfect here but there are a lot of changes coming including possibly going to an inhouse union which may be a good thing, but we won't get into that discussion. If you look on the positive side this could be a great place to be in the not-so-distant future. If you are young (early 40's and younger) you'll have time for things to change. We have a lot of retirements and things are moving quickly. I don't see USAirways as a company that's going to go away soon, but as with any carrier it's a roll of the dice. I was at ValuJet when they started. Everyone said, "get the heck out of there!" It was a horrible place to be. If you stuck it out you are sitting very pretty now so you can't judge the future by today. I'll be happy to answer any questions for those that have them. I won't get involved into a AAA or AW bashing. Life's too short. One thing I will say is that these are some of the best crews I've ever flown with. Very professional and fun! Lot's of original Piedmont, PSA, and USAir folk as well as new junior folk like myself. It may not be your cup of tea and hey that's great. Whatever blows your dress up, but I'd also say not to dwell on what all the negative people say. There's too many negative people in this business that do a good job making flying airplanes a bummer. I've been doing this too long to be miserable in life. Good luck to those that want to come here. Hopefully all of our brother at USAir east and west will come together one day. ;)

FlyByCable
09-17-2007, 07:47 PM
Hello all. I rarely post here as there is a lot of negativity and flaming but what the heck I'll put my neck out to help those that are seriously considering working at AAA.

I just came back from over 5 years of furlough to the 190. Took the first thing available but that's another story. Regardless of what some say the 190 is a good airplane. It's state of the art, LCD screens with lots of automation. More than a CRJ and a hair less than the Little Bus. It's a good size airplane that is bigger than a DC9 & fun to fly. We're configured 88 coach and 11 first class seats. We have 6 airplanes and getting 2 per month until we get our 25 orders and then we have options on 30 more 190/195s. All planes for now are based in PHL and although there is nothing official, CLT looks to be a reasonable possibility when we get more airplanes.

The training is AQP (Advanced Qualification Program) and was created by our fleet captain who is one of the creators of AQP and what all other fleet's training are being modeled after. The training is very good and the check airmen and instructors are top notch. Really super guys and none of that petty empire building garbage. Every Captain I've flown with on the aircraft has been great and fun to fly with. I'm not sure about first year pay I believe it's somewhere in the $40's per hour. We have a long call (9hr) and short call (1.5hrs). As recalls finish their year lock they are bidding off the 190 for more pay. Bottom line is FO's are moving up quick and becoming block holders within several months. A lot of the lines are day trips because it was a new airplane but every month we are getting more 2, 3, & 4 days. If you live in base it's a good life. At the moment reserves aren't working a lot but that's subject to change. 72hr guarantee for long call and 76hr guarantee for short call.

Now to the ugly. As most of you know things here haven't been peachy. The seniority award will get worked out, we will get a better contract, and it's no secret that Doug Parker is looking to buy or merge with another carrier. Things are far from perfect here but there are a lot of changes coming including possibly going to an inhouse union which may be a good thing, but we won't get into that discussion. If you look on the positive side this could be a great place to be in the not-so-distant future. If you are young (early 40's and younger) you'll have time for things to change. We have a lot of retirements and things are moving quickly. I don't see USAirways as a company that's going to go away soon, but as with any carrier it's a roll of the dice. I was at ValuJet when they started. Everyone said, "get the heck out of there!" It was a horrible place to be. If you stuck it out you are sitting very pretty now so you can't judge the future by today. I'll be happy to answer any questions for those that have them. I won't get involved into a AAA or AW bashing. Life's too short. One thing I will say is that these are some of the best crews I've ever flown with. Very professional and fun! Lot's of original Piedmont, PSA, and USAir folk as well as new junior folk like myself. It may not be your cup of tea and hey that's great. Whatever blows your dress up, but I'd also say not to dwell on what all the negative people say. There's too many negative people in this business that do a good job making flying airplanes a bummer. I've been doing this too long to be miserable in life. Good luck to those that want to come here. Hopefully all of our brother at USAir east and west will come together one day. ;)




And what was the pay on the "smaller" DC-9?

jsled
09-17-2007, 08:08 PM
With Lcc hovering around 2.7B market cap, I am afraid that Tilton will get the company checkbook out soon and write the check. What a mess the UAUA/LCC seniority integration will be. Tilton and Dougie seem to be the only players in the merger game. It will be interesting.

erjpilot
09-17-2007, 11:13 PM
Is there any way to update your application after you have submitted it? Thanks

Jettubby
09-19-2007, 08:02 AM
A letter was just put out that indicated that USAirways pilots could write a letter to recommend a candidate that has submitted his/her application online. The USAirways pilot should give this letter to his Chief Pilot for processing. The recommendation "does not guarantee an interview" but will place value when comparing attributes and qualifications. It also says that the USAirways pilot should be able to speak to the applicant's flying abilities or character.

Hope this helps.

Slice
09-19-2007, 08:05 AM
And what was the pay on the "smaller" DC-9?

Jumpseated out of MCI in 1997 on a US -9. I was a new hire 1900 FO. The -9 FO showed me his paystub...he was making $109 AN HOUR IN 1997! How low can we go?:rolleyes:

Jettubby
09-19-2007, 08:20 AM
Time to get it back!

LifeNtheFstLne
09-19-2007, 09:09 AM
I haven't seen any retirement projections (with or without 65 factored) for US Air. Anyone know how long a new hire this year would be sitting right seat for? I realize there are many factors at play...

ghilis101
09-19-2007, 01:01 PM
my guess is youd want to move up to widebody fo before you went to narrowbody captain anyway, unless you like getting treated like a h.o.

swaayze
09-20-2007, 06:11 AM
Unverified numbers:

I think you'd need about 2000-2500 to leave in order to make left seat of a 737/AB320 from the bottom of the list. So based on these figures you'd be looking at about a 7-8 year upgrade if age 60 remains. Add about 3-5 years if it goes to 65. The much ballyhooed "geographical fence" is a big unknown and could make the time shorter if you're an Eastie and/or you're willing to take the E190 C/O seat. Good luck.

The retirements are very heavy on the East. Here is a list of retirements per year from each side based on age 60:

Year / East / West / Cumulative

2007 / 228 / 43 / 271
2008 / 177 / 46 / 494
2009 / 232 / 47 / 773
2010 / 194 / 52 / 1019
2011 / 246 / 44 / 1309
2012 / 267 / 65 / 1641
2013 / 283 / 51 / 1975
2014 / 289 / 77 / 2341
2015 / 289 / 69 / 2699
2016 / 292 / 68 / 3059
2017 / 255 / 66 / 3380
2018 / 261 / 85 / 3726
2019 / 209 / 78 / 4013
2020 / 222 / 88 / 4323
2021 / 168 / 90 / 4581
2022 / 165 / 94 / 4840
2023 / 148 / 77 / 5065
2024 / 118 / 92 / 5275
2025 / 97 / 94 / 5466
2026 / 103 / 77 / 5646
2027 / 109 / 68 / 5823

chazbird
09-20-2007, 12:48 PM
Well, all this background information is just peachy but it means nothing if you can't get your on-line application through. Today after spending an hour + on their web-site I'm having the blank page appear after submitting my application. And there's no e-mail saying they have received anything. You can rent a car and get a confirming email back in two seconds, but USAIRWAYS? You know what they say about first impressions.....

Short Final
09-20-2007, 01:23 PM
You think that's a bad impression, wait ' til you have to deal with the gate agents!:D

chazbird
09-20-2007, 06:51 PM
If anyone is interested the "blank page" that appears when you submit your USAIRWAYS pilot application occurs because the applicant (me) hasn't registered. The USAIRWAYS web-page desk was quite prompt in informing me about this. Of course that's appreciated but it would be a lot easier for everyone if they put that notice on the first page of the careers page, not embedded inside the "other careers" link. Their help desk didn't mention where the registration section is.

Jettubby
09-21-2007, 10:44 AM
I don't know who's maintaining the app site or who the IT staff is but I'd bet it's in Phoenix. :D

I've seen much better online apps but I've seen much worse as well. Do the best you can. Life sure ain't perfect. Especially in this business.

swaayze
09-22-2007, 07:53 AM
Hey Jettubby,

From your posts it seems you're doing ok back at U, yes? I hope so.

I just couldn't do it at the time. Seems recent events here at Eagle will likely prove it to be yet another boneheaded career move on my part. Oh well.

Best of luck to you over there!

chazbird
09-22-2007, 09:47 AM
Well, in my experience the USAIRWAYS career web site now wins hands down as the worst on-line process I've gone through. And I'm not done with it yet.

1. Click on "pilot careers" - go through filling that out for an hour and find it won't submit. Try again. Same thing. 2 Contact USAIRWAYS via email: They say you must register first. Oh. Thanks for making that clear when you start. You register on the page "other careers". After you register then you upload resume, cover letter, education background, employment history then select career interest; "pilot" click apply and it sends you back not to the pilot additional information section (flight times, etc, which I did earlier) but to the start of the apply to the pilot section again. Whatever. So I exit the whole thing, figure I may have (or may not have applied) and click on pilot careers and start filling that out again - this time it passes by the employment and education history (could that be because I entered that earlier) - get to the end and try to submit and it sends me to the apply to the pilot page, which I've already applied to, I think. Then I do the apparently fatal decision to back arrow and re-submit and get the blank page. Call USAIRWAYS - lots of voice mail, getting sidetracked, now I'm supposed to call customer service MO-FRI during business hours and ask for recruitment. That ought to be fun. Time invested so far 3.8 hours. I could have done this in a hour and half with paper and pen and a 41 cent stamp. But oh, its for the ease of their use. Right. How many times do I waste their time finding out what's wrong? And its not for their use if they aren't getting the applicants they want through their web-site. By the way its a Larry Ellison/Oracle POS software. No wonder he rides around in a GV and USAIRWAYS is....well.....

Jettubby
09-23-2007, 04:53 PM
D'oh. See below.

Jettubby
09-23-2007, 04:55 PM
Hey Jettubby,

From your posts it seems you're doing ok back at U, yes? I hope so.

I just couldn't do it at the time. Seems recent events here at Eagle will likely prove it to be yet another boneheaded career move on my part. Oh well.

Best of luck to you over there!

Hey buddy. Sorry to hear you had to give up the #. That is BS in my opinion. Hey at least you're home. I don't know what's going to happen here. Heck this business is all just a roll of the dice. I was at Airtran when they started and everyone was trying to get out like the plague. Turns out I'd be in the top 20 if I stayed. Who'd a thunk? Came to USAir when it was one of the best paying companies around. Now look. Maybe one of these days I'll land on the right number on that roulette wheel. ;-) Keep in touch. I was an Eagle Puke once. Definitely not the worst place.

ZapBrannigan
09-23-2007, 11:11 PM
Don't feel bad. in 98' and 99' AirTran was a dirtbag operation. (They furloughed me in Oct 98'). Mishmash of Eastern/Valujet manuals...British Midland and Turkish Air DC9s...some without HSI's. The only reason I went there was cause' I couldn't get hired elsewhere.

Got hired by US in Jan 99. Recalled by AAIR in Jan 99. Thought it was a no-brainer! Turned out to be a dumb decision. Who woulda' thunk it?