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highspeed07
09-13-2007, 07:45 PM
I am from California and going to work 6-12 month with my company in Moscow, Russia. Curious to know what some of you fellow corporate pilots do outside USA for phone service. If your company is not providing you a cell and/or blackberry (With voice). I am a new to the company have gone through training and checkride :)!. For example I am with Verizon now as my US Cell provider. Would like to stay with them but want to know which plan would work upon my purchase of a blackberry (Worl Edition) 8830. How much?


s10an
09-13-2007, 08:35 PM
I am from California and going to work 6-12 month with my company in Moscow, Russia. Curious to know what some of you fellow corporate pilots do outside USA for phone service. If your company is not providing you a cell and/or blackberry (With voice). I am a new to the company have gone through training and checkride :)!. For example I am with Verizon now as my US Cell provider. Would like to stay with them but want to know which plan would work upon my purchase of a blackberry (Worl Edition) 8830. How much?

I might be wrong, but i dont think Verizon uses the GSM network, and that is the common network in Europe and russia.
Save yourself the money and use a laptop with wireless.

Skype (http://www.skype.com) has excellent quality and good prices.
Voipbuster (http://www.voipbuster.com) is also very good.(free calls to landlines in most countries.)

SamFoxpilot
09-14-2007, 07:52 AM
Good luck...most US phones don't work in Europe or Russia. T-mobile (a German company) phones work throughout almost all of Europe, but calls from a US based phone are $4.99/minute. GSM is the more common cellular network architecture in Europe.


jetflyger
09-14-2007, 09:03 AM
Good luck...most US phones don't work in Europe or Russia. T-mobile (a German company) phones work throughout almost all of Europe, but calls from a US based phone are $4.99/minute. GSM is the more common cellular network architecture in Europe.

Any GSM phone will work in Europe and most of Russia as well. Make sure you bring one that is UNLOCKED. That way you can buy a sim card package in Russia and obtain a local telephone number. Otherwise you better check with T-Mobile or AT&T who are the only GSM providers in the United States to see what international rates they can give you calling from Russia. Roaming charges run anywhere from 1.69 to 4.99 depending on what plan you sign up for with any of those two carriers.

Buying a unlocked GSM phone on Ebay is also a way to avoid signing up for a plan with any carrier. Make sure it is a quad band phone.

Enjoy Russia

Zoot Suit
09-14-2007, 09:06 AM
WHATEVER YOU DO.....Don't take the new Iphone out of the country.......

http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/saturday/news/ny-bzappl085364755sep08,0,5393336.story

UtFlyer
09-14-2007, 06:46 PM
Verizion will not work in europe. Like previous posters have said, buy an unlocked, Quad band phone. Then buy your sim cards individually once you are over there. That would be the cheapest way to go.

JetJocF14
09-14-2007, 07:22 PM
What are you going to need a phone for,,,, you'l be married to a russian babe in six months...........:eek:

Rubberband
09-15-2007, 07:28 AM
I switched from Verizon to Cingular (new ATT) and with a GSM phone, I have the Razer, worldwide service has been great. Per min rates with the Intl plan are between .99 in europe to 4.99 a min. in garden spots like Afghanistan.

Radial Song
09-15-2007, 08:46 AM
The Blackberry 8830 World Edition (http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=3015) has GSM in addition to GPRS and EV-DO and can be used with Verizon. Sprint has this one too.




I might be wrong, but i dont think Verizon uses the GSM network, and that is the common network in Europe and russia.
Save yourself the money and use a laptop with wireless.

Skype (http://www.skype.com) has excellent quality and good prices.
Voipbuster (http://www.voipbuster.com) is also very good.(free calls to landlines in most countries.)

CVG767A
09-15-2007, 10:32 AM
I've got Cingular/ATT, and my phone works fine in Europe (at least the cities), but can get pricey at $1/ minute in most of Europe, and as much as $5/minute (i.e. Russia). I was on a couple of Moscow layovers during the last few weeks, and found that (ATT) signal availability is pretty spotty. When I had a signal at all, the carrier listed on the screen would frequently change as I traveled around town ( the only other place I've seen it change so often is Berlin).

BTW, Cingular unlocked my Moto RAZR for free. I just called and requested it, and they sent me an unlock code via email. I'm now using a European sim card when I travel. The outgoing calls are almost as expensive, but incoming calls are free (just the L/D charge for the caller to call my U.K. number- $.05/min).

I haven't tried the new sim card in Russia, so I can't recommend it for there yet. I'll pass on my experience with it in Russia next time I go there (I'm thinking maybe next May or June, when it warms up again!).

Do svidanya!

ugleeual
09-15-2007, 10:54 AM
I live in Germany... my recommendation is to bring a GSM phone... stop by the local cell phone company and buy a "pay as you go" Sim Card and Local Phone number attached... it cost me 20 euro in Germany... and I top it off whenever needed... and its local number.

I also have a blackberry... from Vodafone (European Cell Company)... it works in the US whenever I'm travelling... email, browser, phone, etc.

Cheers,
Russ

Phantom Flyer
09-15-2007, 12:57 PM
Highspeed07:

We have aircraft in eastern europe all of the time and the AT&T powered Blackberry works fine along with AT&T voice. Yes, you'll need provisions for a GSM card but do your homework before you reach Vr on your departure and you'll have no problems. The calls can be a little pricey but Blackberry text works well from Moscow or where ever you go in Russia.

Are you going to send invitations to your wedding? JetJocF14 is absolutely right. Being in Moscow for 6 months and you're just as good as married right now;).

Enjoy

An ol' Fox Four driver

tomgoodman
09-15-2007, 01:03 PM
WHATEVER YOU DO.....Don't take the new Iphone out of the country.......

http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/saturday/news/ny-bzappl085364755sep08,0,5393336.story


Good heads-up. I called AT&T/Apple and they confirmed that if you leave it in the "airplane" mode, it's blocked from all communications and can't run up any roaming charges. You can still use it to play stored music, movies, etc.

highspeed07
09-19-2007, 11:47 AM
My company is basing me for 6-12 month in Moscow, Russia and fly all over Russia, SW Asia, Europe. I am considering in obtaining the BB 8830 from Verizon. They will unlock it for me once I have it in my hands. They charge with the one card very deep roaming fees of $1.49-2.49 per min. Now I have found this company called oneroam. The website for them is this: http://www.oneroam.com/sim-cards.aspx?m=1&mi=1&ms=0 All you need is swap out the sim card. For example the fees to call within Russia or back to the States .45 cents a min. And around the .60 cents a min in Europe. Free incoming calls and 2 options for friends and family in States call you. Either call you directly free to you or have them use a 1-800 Pass through # free to them you are charged then .35 cents a min.

I am curious how does Iskoot or this work.
http://www.webmessenger.com/products/mimskype.htm#s2
I am new to my company finished training and checkride on the Hawker 850 XP.

Thanks.

TonyC
09-19-2007, 01:15 PM
Skype.





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ILStoMinimums
09-19-2007, 06:00 PM
My company is basing me for 6-12 month in Moscow, Russia and fly all over Russia, SW Asia, Europe. I am considering in obtaining the BB 8830 from Verizon. They will unlock it for me once I have it in my hands. They charge with the one card very deep roaming fees of $1.49-2.49 per min. Now I have found this company called oneroam. The website for them is this: http://www.oneroam.com/sim-cards.aspx?m=1&mi=1&ms=0 All you need is swap out the sim card. For example the fees to call within Russia or back to the States .45 cents a min. And around the .60 cents a min in Europe. Free incoming calls and 2 options for friends and family in States call you. Either call you directly free to you or have them use a 1-800 Pass through # free to them you are charged then .35 cents a min.

I am curious how does Iskoot or this work.
http://www.webmessenger.com/products/mimskype.htm#s2
I am new to my company finished training and checkride on the Hawker 850 XP.

Thanks.

PM me when you get a chance. I am from Russia and would like to chat with you a bit about the flying over there. Thanks

be76flyer
09-22-2007, 12:10 PM
I am from California and going to work 6-12 month with my company in Moscow, Russia. Curious to know what some of you fellow corporate pilots do outside USA for phone service. If your company is not providing you a cell and/or blackberry (With voice). I am a new to the company have gone through training and checkride :)!. For example I am with Verizon now as my US Cell provider. Would like to stay with them but want to know which plan would work upon my purchase of a blackberry (Worl Edition) 8830. How much?

Pilot754 who are you working for?

boost
09-22-2007, 09:21 PM
Tony C said it! Use skype. Any cell phone service that you buy over here and take over there will charge you high roaming rates for both incoming and outgoing calls.
If you really need a cell phone over there then go buy an unlocked GSM phone with a pay as you go sim card. Then get the "Skype In" number for your computer and forward it to your intl cell phone. Now people from back home can make a local call to your computer which will connect to your cell phone at skype rates of 2 cents per minute since incoming calls are usually free if you buy the phone over there. You can try this website
www.telestial.com (www.telestial.com)

If you dont need to be in contact 24/7 but still need a portable skpe phone try this one http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Phones-Fax/Telephones/model.KX-WP1050_11002_7000000000000005702
(http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Phones-Fax/Telephones/model.KX-WP1050_11002_7000000000000005702)

I went and played with that Verizon 8830 word phone as well and was extremely dissapointed with its look/function everything. Make sure you go try it out before you get it.

Zapata
09-22-2007, 09:40 PM
I went and played with that Verizon 8830 word phone as well and was extremely dissapointed with its look/function everything. Make sure you go try it out before you get it.

I have the Verizon Blackberry 8830 and I absolutely love it for its performance and multitude of features. My impression mirrors the excellent reviews here; Blackberry 8830 (http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/user_reviews.php?phone=1194)

To each their own I guess.



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