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Martin404
09-18-2007, 05:10 AM
I've got a couple questions for the Delta guys on the board...

1. How is seniority assigned? (Age or SSN)

2. What is the junior base and A/C? ( I suspect LGA)

3. How long on reserve at the junior base?

4. How long would it take to get Junior A/C in ATL?

5. Does going to an AirInc seminar helpful to getting an interview? (Had stuff in since Jan with no joy! 8500 hrs, 4 types, jet pic...)

Thanks for the help!!

Marty!


tantrum
09-18-2007, 05:27 AM
I've got a couple questions for the Delta guys on the board...

1. How is seniority assigned? (Age or SSN)

2. What is the junior base and A/C? ( I suspect LGA)

3. How long on reserve at the junior base?

4. How long would it take to get Junior A/C in ATL?

5. Does going to an AirInc seminar helpful to getting an interview? (Had stuff in since Jan with no joy! 8500 hrs, 4 types, jet pic...)

Thanks for the help!!

Marty!


1. Last 4 of SSN with 9999 being most senior and 0000 being most junior

2. NYC is most junior...MD88 in LGA. The 737 and 767ER are based in JFK. MD88 is usually the junior aircraft, but a recent class all had 767ER, 767/757 and 737 with no MD88 spots at all, but that may just be an exception as they were very backed up in MD88 training department. So to answer your question, every class has different options and there is no way to tell which aircraft or bases will be offered to your class until day one of indoc.

3. Reserve on the MD88 in LGA may only be a couple months depending on how fast those above you are moving out of there to get to the base they wanted.

4. You would be able to hold ATL on the next advanced entitlement bid (system bid). They have these whenever there is a need, so I couldn't tell you how often they would happen, but recently it's been pretty often. We're hearing the next one would be in November. After the system bid, it would be anywhere from 1 to 6 months to be converted to your new aircraft/new base.

5. Sure it would help. Any face time you can get with the recruiters is better than any amount of time you sit on a computer database!

faipsrule
09-18-2007, 07:03 AM
I just got the call for an interview and was wondering where the best Delta interview gouge was? Also, how many hours on average are the new hires getting above the min? Based on the latest drops, it looks like NYC is easy if you want to go there. Is that common or is it cyclical and in 6 months NYC will be a hard domicile to get? Just wondering...


acl65pilot
09-18-2007, 08:55 AM
NYC will always be junior because of the cost of living. I guess that they could hire enough people who want it that they have no openings, but that will not happen for some time.

Most of the gouge that is out there is good, but make sure on the aviation knowledge test that you know the formulas as well.
I have some left over it you want it. Send me your e-mail addy and I will shoot it to you.

faipsrule
09-18-2007, 09:26 AM
Awsome... my address is [email protected] I appreciate any gouge you have and any hints / non-obvious prep stuff you would recommend. Thanks

Martin404
09-18-2007, 11:28 AM
Just thought of a couple more...

6. How many have been hired and how many more "projected"?

7. What is the attrition in the coming years... and how long to up-grade on the junior CA?

8. What's the recall like... can guys come in on top of me on the seniority. I believe that it's a 10 year recall rights?

Once again... thanks! ( And, thanks for not hi-jacking the thread!)

Keep the info flowin'

Marty!

ksna
09-18-2007, 11:44 AM
How large is the LAX base and how long would it take a new hire to obtain it?

tantrum
09-18-2007, 12:53 PM
Just thought of a couple more...

6. How many have been hired and how many more "projected"?

7. What is the attrition in the coming years... and how long to up-grade on the junior CA?

8. What's the recall like... can guys come in on top of me on the seniority. I believe that it's a 10 year recall rights?

Once again... thanks! ( And, thanks for not hi-jacking the thread!)

Keep the info flowin'

Marty!

6. It looks like about 285 have been hired this year including the class that just started yesterday. Last I heard about future hiring was about 250 more this year plus another 650 next year. After that, your guess is as good as mine.

7. Until age 60 goes away...another 15 this year, 61 in 2008, 75 in 2009. The flood gates don't really start to open up until 2016 with 500 a year for the next several years. Latest system bid shows most junior captain on MD88 NYC as a 11-1999 hire. That is an 8 year upgrade, but if you throw in the 6 years they didn't hire, it's almost like a 2 year upgrade. Who knows how long to upgrade though...I'm certainly not counting on a two year upgrade. Most captains were hired in 1991 and earlier to put things in perspective.

8. Yes, furloughed pilots have 10 years from date of furlough to come back as long as Delta is running classes. There are still about 200 pilots that are on furlough status that could come back any time in the next 3-4 years. And yes, if they come back, they would be ahead of you in seniority.

tantrum
09-18-2007, 01:01 PM
How large is the LAX base and how long would it take a new hire to obtain it?

LAX has about 190 F/Os...32 on the 767-400 and the rest on the 767. The most junior F/O was a June 2007 hire. They have already displaced a lot of the 767-400 pilots and I think they are going to be moving the 767-400 out of LAX which would cause more displacements. With all that said, you could get LAX within 6 months or it could take several years if those displaced off the 767-400 move down to the 767...there's really no way to know for sure.

faipsrule
09-20-2007, 05:52 AM
I don't mean to waste time and even asking this I feel like I am way over thinking things, but as far as the blue suit for interview, I have a conservative charcoal gray suit to go along with my red tie and white shirt. Do I still need to go buy a blue suit or will the dark gray be appropriate? Also, is a solid navy blue suit required, or is some pinstriping ok (I can't believe I'm writing this)? Just don't want to blow it over a suit color.

Rhino Driver
09-20-2007, 06:39 AM
I think as long as the suits are conservative and something you would be comfortable wearing to a formal gathering, it'll be fine. Don't get too bogged down in the attire. Simple, dark and conservative IMHO. Look like a professional!

acl65pilot
09-20-2007, 09:05 AM
You will not blow it over the suit color. Wearing the DAL uniform to the interview can only help it will not hurt if you don't. Many have been hired with out it.

TheNid
09-20-2007, 09:11 AM
You can get the offer with a charcoal suit. When I got it, they made it plain that I should be dressed similarly for the day 2 events. I recycled the suit/tie with a fresh shirt.

tripled
09-20-2007, 08:01 PM
Heard one of the interviewers got so tired of seeing dark suits and red ties that he blurted he would hire outright the next guy who walks in wearing a tan suit!

that said, i'll be in charcoal and red for the interview too. chicken that i am.

Roll Inverted and Pull
09-21-2007, 10:00 AM
[QUOTE=tripled;234185]Heard one of the interviewers got so tired of seeing dark suits and red ties that he blurted he would hire outright the next guy who walks in wearing a tan suit!

If you think that an interviewer can hire you, you are dreaming...he can recommend that you not be hired however...even that doesn`t mean that you won`t be hired. Having said that, I still wouldn`t show up in anything but a dark suit and dark red tie. One of my Delta classmates (G-66) showed up in a tan sportcoat ( a SAC pilot, don`t you know)...he`s still getting flack for that one.

staplegun
09-24-2007, 10:31 PM
If you think that an interviewer can hire you, you are dreaming...he can recommend that you not be hired however...even that doesn`t mean that you won`t be hired. Having said that, I still wouldn`t show up in anything but a dark suit and dark red tie. One of my Delta classmates (G-66) showed up in a tan sportcoat ( a SAC pilot, don`t you know)...he`s still getting flack for that one.


From another thread:



In a room full of guys wearing navy blue suits with white shirts and burgundy ties, do you want to be the one guy with a brown suit?

I was that one guy (1990's - although in a nice Brooks Brothers grey chalk pinstripe, striped shirt etc...) and got hired; as a matter of fact the Captain who interviewed me joked with me about it!

I recently flew with a pilot who does interviews and he categorically stated that the old "blue-suit-red-tie" gouge was total BS, and that as long as you looked sharp and professional it did not matter what colors you wore.


Kevin

snakeplt
09-25-2007, 01:16 AM
Why would anyone want to work for such low pay ?

Delta shmelta....

Your payscales are PITIFUL...just above the regional pilots...

the mystique is gone :(

C-17 Driver
09-25-2007, 02:42 AM
Why would anyone want to work for such low pay ?

Delta shmelta....

Your payscales are PITIFUL...just above the regional pilots...

the mystique is gone :(

I've just read all of your previous 9 posts and they all say just about the same thing. Care to shed some light on what you do and why you are so bitter?

Express pilot
09-25-2007, 06:48 AM
Why would anyone want to work for such low pay ?

Delta shmelta....

Your payscales are PITIFUL...just above the regional pilots...

the mystique is gone :(

Just above the regional pilots, that is wrong. You know nothing about the industry if you say that. I bet you are not even a pilot.

Delta pays more than CAL and thats with Delta taking 45%. CAL has not taking anything. Delta gives us health ins. day 1. CAL you don't get it until 6 months. CAL first year around 30, 2nd yr. around 55-60. Delta 1st yr 49, 2nd yr 68-77. Maybe you are getting us mixed up with CAL.

CAL is still better than any regional job, it is a good job. Not trying to bash CAL, just giving the facts. I hope you guys get a great contract.

Express pilot
09-25-2007, 06:55 AM
Sorry I should have not even responded to this loser. This is a good thread and website. No need for this crap. What a waste of time.

CAL guys, no harm, you first year thing sucks, but hey everyone in that rish mag says your the best. Work hard fly right.



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