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tone
09-27-2007, 10:31 AM
Holy deer in the headlights Batman! The AA pilots Website shows no classes for Oct, only a Nov 17th class that has a bunch of previous deferrals, no seniority number over 9880, so we don't move up at all for almost the rest of the year!?? What's up witt Datt?


ryane946
09-27-2007, 10:41 AM
Who else still thinks changing age 60 won't affect hiring/recalls???


Just the thought of it passing has American slowing recalls. But hey, if we work an extra 5 years, we may just make the same amount of money as if age 60 had been kept....

aa73
09-27-2007, 12:07 PM
Holy deer in the headlights Batman! The AA pilots Website shows no classes for Oct, only a Nov 17th class that has a bunch of previous deferrals, no seniority number over 9880, so we don't move up at all for almost the rest of the year!?? What's up witt Datt?

Tone.... RELAX bro. There are 2 recall classes in Oct.. Oct 3 (30 pilots) and Oct 17 (20 pilots.) The Nov class will have 40 instead of 50, due to earlier MLOAs coming back. Everyone is presuming they will be back up to 50 by Dec or Jan.


tone
09-27-2007, 01:00 PM
Tone.... RELAX bro. There are 2 recall classes in Oct.. Oct 3 (30 pilots) and Oct 17 (20 pilots.) The Nov class will have 40 instead of 50, due to earlier MLOAs coming back. Everyone is presuming they will be back up to 50 by Dec or Jan.

Oh, I was just panicking because I didn't see any Oct classes listed on AApilots website. Also, I was wondering why the Sept class got up into the 10000's in seniority, and now were back into the 9800's. Are there that many previos deferrals that all of a sudden want to come back? Or did they update the seniority #'s? Scary...

aa73
09-27-2007, 02:11 PM
Oh, I was just panicking because I didn't see any Oct classes listed on AApilots website. Also, I was wondering why the Sept class got up into the 10000's in seniority, and now were back into the 9800's. Are there that many previos deferrals that all of a sudden want to come back? Or did they update the seniority #'s? Scary...

Hi Tone, I checked the recall list. Indeed, sounds like they were up to the 10,000s before the July seniority shuffle, now they are back up to 9888 (who was probably a 10200 before the shuffle.) Everyone in the Sep class is in the 9600s.

For those wondering, the bottom guy offered recall in the Oct 17 class so far (seniority 9888) is 927 out of 2819 on the furlough list. So less than 2000 to go! We should get through that whole list by the end of next year.

Statistically: we've gone through 927 pilots in nine months of recalling. And we did that with a slow start: 20 in Jan, 10 in March, 20 in April, 30 in May and June, 40 in Jul, Aug, Sep, and 50 in Oct. We should be through about number 1300 or so by the end of the year. So, if we start with 50/month by Jan 2008, you can see how we'll go through the remaining 1500 in one more year, based on the current deferral rate.

tone
09-27-2007, 02:16 PM
Hi Tone, I checked the recall list. Indeed, sounds like they were up to the 10,000s before the July seniority shuffle, now they are back up to 9888 (who was probably a 10200 before the shuffle.) Everyone in the Sep class is in the 9600s.

For those wondering, the bottom guy offered recall in the Oct 17 class so far (seniority 9888) is 927 out of 2819 on the furlough list. So less than 2000 to go! We should get through that whole list by the end of next year.

Thank You------

tone
09-27-2007, 02:25 PM
Actually, one more question if anyone knows: When I log in My seniority # is Mid 11000's, but how do I get to see my new number after the shuffle? In other words, how do I know how many numbers have to be recalled after the 9888 to get to me?

EXTW
09-27-2007, 03:06 PM
Tone,

All that info is located on the APA website under Furlough Information. Even as a furloughee, you have access as long as you were a member upon furlough.


EXTW


PS If you do not have access to the APA website, PM me your name,employee number, and DOH and I will PM back your info. I am unwilling to exchange this info on a public forum.

aa73
09-27-2007, 04:18 PM
What EXTW said.

Also, your seniority number is automatically updated every July. So what you see today is your updated number. Everyone in the bottom third of the list moved up about 400 numbers or so.

tone
09-27-2007, 04:18 PM
Tone,

All that info is located on the APA website under Furlough Information. Even as a furloughee, you have access as long as you were a member upon furlough.


EXTW


PS If you do not have access to the APA website, PM me your name,employee number, and DOH and I will PM back your info. I am unwilling to exchange this info on a public forum.

Thanks EXTW, I got it. I noticed the changes are already reflected, so although the current recallees have lower numbers, uus with higher numbers stayed the same, so there's 200 guys ahead of me more than I thought. The only thing I couldn't find was what causes the shift? Is it due to retirements? If so, my number should have changed as well?

aa73
09-27-2007, 06:27 PM
Tone, check your PMs.

Mink
09-27-2007, 06:36 PM
For those wondering, the bottom guy offered recall in the Oct 17 class so far (seniority 9888) is 927 out of 2819 on the furlough list. So less than 2000 to go! We should get through that whole list by the end of next year.

Statistically: we've gone through 927 pilots in nine months of recalling. And we did that with a slow start: 20 in Jan, 10 in March, 20 in April, 30 in May and June, 40 in Jul, Aug, Sep, and 50 in Oct. We should be through about number 1300 or so by the end of the year. So, if we start with 50/month by Jan 2008, you can see how we'll go through the remaining 1500 in one more year, based on the current deferral rate.

Awesome. We should all be back on the property just in time to go on strike.

Luckydawg
09-27-2007, 09:29 PM
Come on monkeyman! You'll be at browner pastures before your recall!!:D:D

EXTW
09-28-2007, 02:56 AM
:confused::confused::confused:

tone
09-28-2007, 03:12 AM
Tone, check your PMs.


Hey AA73 thanks again--Got it now--I looked at the Sept recall list and thought I was closer than I really was, not taking into account the shift. My number WAS changed, just didn't catch it. (Good thing AA doesn't give IQ tests or I'd be in trouble). But I did notice that on our aapilots website they said November 17 for the class, and I'm assumin they meant Oct? Which is why I panicked to begin this thread in the first place. :eek::eek::eek:

aa73
09-28-2007, 05:35 AM
Glad it is cleared up, Tone. Believe me, AA does NOT require an IQ test which is why I'm here.

Mink
09-28-2007, 06:13 AM
Come on monkeyman! You'll be at browner pastures before your recall!!:D:D

My app is in, fingers are crossed...

Luckydawg
09-28-2007, 12:12 PM
:confused::confused::confused:

Sorry monkeyman, you're wearing the same face as someone else. He's also Ex-TWA and I thought you were he. I guess a few others display the same avatar. I hope your recall is soon!

Andy
12-11-2007, 12:09 PM
How far down the recall list is AMR at now? What's your recall rate?

tone
12-11-2007, 02:03 PM
How far down the recall list is AMR at now? What's your recall rate?


30-40 a month, supposedly indefinitely. Aver half have been offered recall, and about a third are accepting the first shot. Should be done with the list by this time next year..?? Come on Congress, take a vacation for as long as you'd like!

tone
12-11-2007, 04:25 PM
30-40 a month, supposedly indefinitely. Aver half have been offered recall, and about a third are accepting the first shot. Should be done with the list by this time next year..?? Come on Congress, take a vacation for as long as you'd like!


Never mind..It's over.:(:confused::eek:

FliFast
12-11-2007, 04:31 PM
ExTW,

Are you interested in coming over to UPS ? PM if so.

FF
Also, ex-TWA