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Niner
09-30-2007, 02:56 PM
Does anyone have any opinions about Commutair? I couldn't find too many threads about it. I know they don't pay much but overall is it a good place to work?


ghilis101
09-30-2007, 10:47 PM
I interviewed there a long time ago (total mom and pop feel to their HQ) and heres what i hear from a couple people who recently left. $19 an hour, flying a B1900 (1 year seat lock, doubt youll can get the dash till later) with no autopilot through the country's worst weather, commuting to the tiniest airports (most likely plattsburgh). pay for your own uniforms etc. youll upgrade very fast but you can do so anywhere else as well. the flying will put hair on your chest but why risk your life in that deathtrap when you can go somewhere else.

flyitall
10-01-2007, 02:37 AM
I have a friend who is there, he went there after some poor treatment (putting it mildly) during training for another regional. He used to work for Commutair in another capacity and was welcomed back with open arms. He's really enjoying himself there every time I talk to him and he's in training for the Dash 8 this month. There are no more classes going to the 1900, everybody is going to Dash 8 training now as the 1900 is on its way out.


DustoffVT
10-01-2007, 04:06 AM
I interviewed 2 weeks ago. All classes are now for CLE -8 F/O's. Upgrade historically 2 years, but will probably be dropping some, IMHO.

beeker
10-01-2007, 04:42 PM
What would you like to know? You will only go to the Dash-8. Plattsburgh closes at the end of Oct. Upgrade is a little higher then 2 years. We do have some 2 and 1/2 year fo's but once they upgrade it will drop to about a 1 and 1/2. Upgrades will be coming once they can figure out the staffing and we get back to a single fleet airline. Since the summer our attrition is higher then our hiring. As an example, for oct it was calculated that if EVERY beech captain worked EVERY day of the bid we still have 20ish work days uncovered. That was before 4 beech captains gave their notices last week and one more is rumored to have a job offer, so that could be another one shortly. Dash captain are also just slightly thin and one gave their notice last week. I have had no complaints since I've been here. The comment about risking your life on the deathtraps was completely incorrect. Unless you don't know how to fly. You might want to look into that ghilis101.

ERJ135
10-01-2007, 05:47 PM
What would you like to know? You will only go to the Dash-8. Plattsburgh closes at the end of Oct. Upgrade is a little higher then 2 years. We do have some 2 and 1/2 year fo's but once they upgrade it will drop to about a 1 and 1/2. Upgrades will be coming once they can figure out the staffing and we get back to a single fleet airline. Since the summer our attrition is higher then our hiring. As an example, for oct it was calculated that if EVERY beech captain worked EVERY day of the bid we still have 20ish work days uncovered. That was before 4 beech captains gave their notices last week and one more is rumored to have a job offer, so that could be another one shortly. Dash captain are also just slightly thin and one gave their notice last week. I have had no complaints since I've been here. The comment about risking your life on the deathtraps was completely incorrect. Unless you don't know how to fly. You might want to look into that ghilis101.


The Burgh is closing, wow. My old home. HAHE. That was some good times up there. Is Big Sky going to start flying out of there? Glad to see its going fairly well.

Niner
10-01-2007, 07:22 PM
I was just wondering about work rules, days off, what the future of the company looks like stuff like that. Trying to figure out if I should go there or wait for more multi (which may take another 4 or 5 months).

beeker
10-02-2007, 03:34 PM
Yeah Big Sky is going to fly into plattsburgh. It’s funny because the big politician up there, who keeps on promising southwest or jetblue, is now praising big sky and how it’s going to be a great improvement. But it’s going to be done by the same beech 1900's that we sold to Big Sky and by the same pilots. We had a 1/2 dozen people go there as street captains. It’s probably the same ground crew.
Normally it’s 16 work days per 28 day bid for everyone. Currently they are forcing everyone to work 18 days and paying extra plus what you fly. Work rules aren't much to talk about, if you ask something specifically I will answer it. As far as the future I think the company is overall shorthanded both captain and fo. Also with going to 16 dash8's we can't get any smaller, hopefully only bigger. The training is good, the people are great and if you don't like it move on from there. It matters if you like instructing or not, if cleveland is big in your plans or if you just have to go to a jet or not.

ghilis101
10-02-2007, 10:37 PM
The comment about risking your life on the deathtraps was completely incorrect. Unless you don't know how to fly. You might want to look into that ghilis101.

nope id rather not look into it :) and if the definition of knowing how to fly is being a B1900 pilot, then i dont want to know how to fly. thats some hard flying and i commend those of you who do it so take it as a compliment and leave it at that. and thats cool youll be an all dash fleet, still a tprop deathtrap though :) - if you cant tell i have a giant fear of props

beeker
10-04-2007, 12:14 PM
No I don't think the definition of flying is a 1900 pilot. But I got what your saying.

ExperimentalAB
10-04-2007, 12:17 PM
Does anyone have any opinions about Commutair? I couldn't find too many threads about it. I know they don't pay much but overall is it a good place to work?

It's gotta be some of the best 121-flying around! Of course, just a stepping-stone for most going on to greener pastures, but a blast while you're there no doubt. Where in the NE are you from?

mccube5
10-04-2007, 12:29 PM
if the definition of knowing how to fly is being a 1900 pilot, then i dont want to know how to fly. thats some hard flying and i commend those of you who do it so take it as a compliment and leave it at that. if you cant tell i have a giant fear of props

i dont think anyone said anything along the lines of youre not a real pilot unless you fly or have flown a 1900. whats with the fear of props though ghilis, you know theyre safer than jets!?

ExperimentalAB
10-04-2007, 12:31 PM
i dont think anyone said anything along the lines of youre not a real pilot unless you fly or have flown a 1900. whats with the fear of props though ghilis, you know theyre safer than jets!?

And even Jets are safer than driving (or so they say!).

mccube5
10-04-2007, 12:32 PM
i feel a shi!t load safer flying then driving. ever driven in Washington DC, i fear for my life every time i get behind the wheel there!

ExperimentalAB
10-04-2007, 12:36 PM
Yeah buddy - you're talking to somebody who learned to drive in the mess they call New York City!

Niner
10-04-2007, 12:54 PM
It's gotta be some of the best 121-flying around! Of course, just a stepping-stone for most going on to greener pastures, but a blast while you're there no doubt. Where in the NE are you from?


I'm from Western NY but I'm looking for something in Columbus, OH. CLE isn't too far so I was just trying to figure out if Commutair would be somewhere I would want to go or not. I plan on staying at my next job for at least a few years.

flynavyj
10-04-2007, 01:04 PM
Ghilis, what kind of jet did you LEARN to fly on?

ExperimentalAB
10-04-2007, 01:48 PM
I'm from Western NY but I'm looking for something in Columbus, OH. CLE isn't too far so I was just trying to figure out if Commutair would be somewhere I would want to go or not. I plan on staying at my next job for at least a few years.

Maybe you're better off holding out for somewhere you'll really want to be at for more than a couple years then? But then again - you might be perfectly happy upgrading w/CommutAir and staying home. It's about your priorities - don't let anybody tell you how to rate carriers best suited to you...And you could always do worse, like flying a CR9 for Mesa ;-P Hell, flying anything for Mesa LoL

All in good fun my friends!!

ghilis101
10-05-2007, 11:06 AM
Ghilis, what kind of jet did you LEARN to fly on?

First jet was the Beechjet 400, second was the DC-10, third was the C-17, fourth was the CRJ, fifth was the 747. so maybe my fear of ME turboprops comes from sitting as a passenger praying that the blades dont come off and rip through the cabin, killing everyone inside in blender-like fashion.

ExperimentalAB
10-05-2007, 11:31 AM
First jet was the Beechjet 400, second was the DC-10, third was the C-17, fourth was the CRJ, fifth was the 747. so maybe my fear of ME turboprops comes from sitting as a passenger praying that the blades dont come off and rip through the cabin, killing everyone inside in blender-like fashion.

Thats what I think about everytime I hop on one of those PDT Dash 8's LoL



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