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View Full Version : US Airlines Fleet 'too old'?


FR8DOGG
10-28-2007, 07:19 AM
I found this article (http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/us-airlines-put-off-buying-new-planes/20071027115509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001) to be an interesting read this morning. Some of it is pure BS other parts seem spot on. Just another media scare tactic I think.


flaps 9
10-28-2007, 08:34 AM
A bunch of bull. :mad:

The guys stats are all wrong. Southwest has a fleet age average of 9 years, not 16.

I'm sure Continental's average is lower than stated.

The writer mentions an Asian carrier has an order for 95 737NG's but forgets to add that SW,CO,DL,and AA have taken delivery of over 500 737NG's with many more coming in the years ahead.

ewrbasedpilot
10-28-2007, 10:32 AM
Unless CAL recently purchased a bunch of OLD airplanes, our fleet still remains one of the youngest in the industry. We have 33+ new 73's on the way next year and 25 787's starting to show up the year after. That's the problem with articles like this, they MISINFORM the reader.:rolleyes:


FR8DOGG
10-28-2007, 07:55 PM
I don't consider the DC-9 to be a 'tuna can'. Those damn things are built like a tank.

jdt30
10-29-2007, 05:59 AM
If we can catch these so called "facts" what else is the media getting wrong.

JoeyMeatballs
10-29-2007, 06:02 AM
I also love the part where some guy wishes our government would allow more foreign airlines to fly within the U.S. to "increase the competition"................what joke

I cant read any articles about our industry, my blood pressure goes bananas

dragon
10-29-2007, 06:41 AM
If we can catch these so called "facts" what else is the media getting wrong.

The better question is "what do they get right?":D

StripAlert
10-29-2007, 05:19 PM
If they think those planes are old, wait until they see the age of some of the pilots in 5 years...

coldpilot
10-29-2007, 05:53 PM
I love how it seems like everyone expects a TV in the seat and a laptop charger in the arm rest even on that short hop from JFK to PHL. Please.....

bigfatdaddy
10-30-2007, 03:43 AM
Is the issue "safety" or comfort? I currently fly a nearly 50 year old Boeing - it's a tank. No worries there. The more relevant issue would be economics - can you make money with the older equipment? My .02:D

pilotss
10-30-2007, 04:07 AM
Funny, he forgot to mention that the US airlines were in bankruptcy about the time you needed to sign on the dotted line for these new planes and the delay of buying a plane and receiving that plane.

He also doesn't mention that the manufacturing industry is not getting caught with its pants down by opening any extra production lines.

Sounds like this guy wrote the article checking facts on Sunday night and it was due Monday morning.

HerkFCC
10-30-2007, 02:10 PM
Is the issue "safety" or comfort? I currently fly a nearly 50 year old Boeing - it's a tank. No worries there. The more relevant issue would be economics - can you make money with the older equipment? My .02:D

Good point. Also, what is the quality of the upkeep of the older airframes would be a good question to toss out there. The age of the airplane is one thing, but can be decieving at times; good maintenance can keep that 50 year old Boeing in the game after all those years. Flip the script, crappy upkeep can ground a brand new one as well.

Just my 2 cents..

coryk
10-31-2007, 04:09 PM
I love how they all refer to NWA's -9s and AA's -80s as "ancient" airliners. Haha, the must not realize they're weren't built by Airbus, but Douglas.

They will fly forever!

EMBFlyer
10-31-2007, 08:27 PM
I love how they all refer to NWA's -9s and AA's -80s as "ancient" airliners. Haha, the must not realize they're weren't built by Airbus, but Douglas.

They will fly forever!

Exactly. I heard the old joke from NWA. When the last Airbus is flown to the desert, the crew will deadhead home on a DC-9.

HerkFCC
10-31-2007, 09:24 PM
True statement. I worked on the C-9As (DC-9 series 30, I believe) at my first base, very well made airplanes. McDonnel Douglas made good airplanes.