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Pilot41
11-01-2007, 01:31 PM
What's the latest in the East battle with ALPA? I had heard the was going to be a vote to decertify ALPA.


CactusCrew
11-01-2007, 03:22 PM
The WEST collected cards a few years ago ... didn't happen :confused:

Think the EAST will get-r-done ?

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Later, former CC

Tigerpilot1995
11-01-2007, 03:56 PM
Was told that ALPA is being brought up on money laundering charges in NY. If this is true it is just one more reason to give them the boot.


CactusCrew
11-01-2007, 04:05 PM
Was told that ALPA is being brought up on money laundering charges in NY. If this is true it is just one more reason to give them the boot.

Duke vs Spellacy .... NOT

If you can't bring up a money laundering charge in a NY court, you shouldn't even be driving a taxi ... or practicing law ?

Later, Brown CC

P.S. ... the decision to give ALPA the boot is ultimately a PERSONAL decision that very few will get to make ... think about that ! :eek:

Pilot41
11-01-2007, 04:31 PM
Duke vs Spellacy .... NOT

If you can't bring up a money laundering charge in a NY court, you shouldn't even be driving a taxi ... or practicing law ?

Later, Brown CC

P.S. ... the decision to give ALPA the boot is ultimately a PERSONAL decision that very few will get to make ... think about that ! :eek:

I guess a lot of you Cactus guys hope they don't. I'm just asking where it stands at this point. If you don't know why, even post a response?

Riddler
11-01-2007, 04:39 PM
What are the implications of US Airways breaking away from ALPA? Will it affect other ALPA airlines?

texaspilot76
11-01-2007, 04:47 PM
You are starting to see the beginning of a new era where the union will no longer control an airline. Colgan voted for no ALPA, Skywest will most likely vote for no APLA, and now US Airways will most likely decertify APLA. It is the wave of the future. (no Hughes pun intended.)

CactusCrew
11-01-2007, 04:57 PM
I guess a lot of you Cactus guys hope they don't. I'm just asking where it stands at this point. If you don't know why, even post a response?

Because I have a 15 year ALPA pin in the bottom of my sock drawer (not that it means much anymore). I was in the MEC as an FO rep and later a Capt rep ... I know ALPA's recent history (1989-2007).

I said leaving ALPA is ULTIMATELY a PERSONAL CHOICE. Because I saw a numerous recalls fail at Cactus ... saw the decertification drive fail there also !

If you think the East can get it done ... good on you. Hope you have a better plan than the Teamsters ...

If you think it will nulify the Nic awarded list ... you better study up on your arbitrated history awards ...

Just wishing BOTH side the best .... its much better on the sidelines & grandstands in this one !

Later, Brown CC

bla bla bla
11-01-2007, 08:24 PM
You are starting to see the beginning of a new era where the union will no longer control an airline. Colgan voted for no ALPA, Skywest will most likely vote for no APLA, and now US Airways will most likely decertify APLA. It is the wave of the future. (no Hughes pun intended.)



See link http://www.ombwatch.org/article/articleview/2166/1/215/

Welcome to the new wave of the future. :mad:

Pilot41
11-02-2007, 09:07 AM
You are starting to see the beginning of a new era where the union will no longer control an airline. Colgan voted for no ALPA, Skywest will most likely vote for no APLA, and now US Airways will most likely decertify APLA. It is the wave of the future. (no Hughes pun intended.)


I fail to see your you point. It was Colgan first ALPA vote, the first vote often fails. Skywest I have no idea. Even if US Airways (east) dumps ALPA the will still be represented by a union, most likely an in house.

I'm not really taking sides pro or con, I was just asking where everything stood at the moment.

JetMonkey
11-03-2007, 01:47 PM
The latest is we're waiting on the east to dump their cards to the NMB so they can decide if both groups are considered "one carrier" status. They say they have enough cards and that they were going to do it on 10/31, that didn't happen.