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EMBPLT
11-20-2007, 01:59 PM
For any Delta guys out there, got a few questions regarding your contract.
1) Are you able to pick up open time trips on your days off as a line holder or while on reserve for extra pay?
2) Is there a monthly max credit that you are not allowed to exceed?
3) On APC is states that you guys get a raise over the next few years, what do you guys expect to receive for next year?
Thanks in advance for the feedback.


luv757
11-20-2007, 02:21 PM
Everytime you pick up open time management thanks you. If you want extra flying pick up a trip that is advertised and help out a bro. If there is something in open time you want, pick up an advertised trip and then trade it for the trip in open time. Now you have the trip you want and you helped out a fellow pilot, not management.

LOBO
11-20-2007, 06:18 PM
1) If you are on Reserve you can not pick up open time on your days off, unless you tell the company you want to work (Green Slip) and the company needs you to work
Line holders can swap and pick up open trips with other pilots and lines that are in the POT.

2)Not that I know of. (Example on Reserve you could actually get paid for 120 hours and really only work somewhere around 60 hours, 'cause of the Green Slip that I mentioned before.) It's a tricky system to perfect but it can be done.

3)It all depends on what the bean counters say we made as a profit this past year. But, it should at least be around 3% or so this year.


Jack Bauer
11-20-2007, 07:08 PM
3)It all depends on what the bean counters say we made as a profit this past year. But, it should at least be around 3% or so this year.

And profit sharing should be around 5% for the year from what I have heard.

EMBPLT
11-20-2007, 07:42 PM
Thanks guys.

BlaineFaban
11-22-2007, 07:57 AM
1) If you are on Reserve you can not pick up open time on your days off, unless you tell the company you want to work (Green Slip) and the company needs you to work
Line holders can swap and pick up open trips with other pilots and lines that are in the POT.

2)Not that I know of. (Example on Reserve you could actually get paid for 120 hours and really only work somewhere around 60 hours, 'cause of the Green Slip that I mentioned before.) It's a tricky system to perfect but it can be done.

3)It all depends on what the bean counters say we made as a profit this past year. But, it should at least be around 3% or so this year.


1) incorrect. As a reserve, you may pick up open time on your days off. As a lineholder, you may pick up open time as well at straight pay, some guys wait until the company is hard up and are offering open time a 1 1/2 times your rate. In some instances, the company will inverse assign--junior to senior--trips at double pay. A reserve may pick up open time on days off for credit towards his monthly guarantee--70 hours. A reserve may also wait for the inverse assignment as well. Inverse assignment pay is straight pay, on our days off, over the guarantee-- or hours flown whichever is greater-- plus you get your days off back. As an example, you can not have flown all month, and gotten a "greenslip" or an inverse assignment for a 21:00 trip on 4 days off and your "pay" would be your 70 hour guarantee plus 21:00 hours. IOW 91 hours for actually controlling an airplane for 4 days that month. It's a bit more complex than that, but that is the general idea.

2) Yes there is. It is a somewhat complex formula that is a rolling monthly "stop block" on how much you may fly. It has to do with not exceeding monthly, quarterly, and yearly limits. At Delta, you are NOT going to "time out" in November and be off in December with the automation in place.

3) Gas has hurt our business somewhat. The guaranteed raise is 1.5%, plus .5% for every .25% operating margin over 6%. Right now, I think that they are looking on a forecast of a 2-2.5% "raise"--I use the term very loosely.

LOBO
11-22-2007, 10:40 AM
Being on Reserve for the last several months I have been unable to pick up open lines on my days off both normal and golden days. eCrew does not let you pick up trips if you are on a reserve status for that month.

During the summer I was able to work on both normal and golden days if I put Green slips in for 1 1/2 pay like BF said

Xray678
11-22-2007, 12:05 PM
Being on Reserve for the last several months I have been unable to pick up open lines on my days off both normal and golden days. eCrew does not let you pick up trips if you are on a reserve status for that month.

During the summer I was able to work on both normal and golden days if I put Green slips in for 1 1/2 pay like BF said


there is an option in Ecrew to pick up flying on your off days (x or golden) but it counts against your reserve guarantee just like any trip you fly on a reserve day would. Plus, you don't get your day off back. I have used it a couple of times trying to fill up early in a month. Otherwise, just put in the greenslip on your off days and try to get the extra pay.