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fly4funA319
08-22-2008, 02:32 PM
Hello everyone. I have a few questions regarding the e-application, and maybe some of you can give me some advice on how to proceed with some areas of the application. The truth is, that I want to be as accurate as possible, and not leave anything out that might help me secure an interview. Here are my questions:

1. I have dual citizenships (US and a Southamerican country), and fly Airbus for a large Southamerican Air Carrier). The application has space for only one nationality. What nationality would you enter?

2. In the employment detais section (under position), you have to choose between Captain and First Officer only. How about Flight Engineer in a B727? Or Flight Instructing in Pipers and Cessnas?

3. In the employment details section (under A/C Type), you can enter only type of airplane. What if you have flown different types of airplanes within the same company? Do you enter the most important?

4. In the employment details section (under stick hours) What exactlly are they looking for? Hours in that particular type of airplane as PIC, or PIC and SIC? Or maybe total hours while in that company? I had a job where I started as a Captain in a small reciprocating airplane, upgraded to FO in a Jet. Other job where I flew as CoCaptain (Corporate).

5. How about freelancing? I have accumulated more than 300 hours of jet time as both PIC and SIC within a timeframe of three years. Where do enter this time?

6. In the current license details section, you can only enter one ATP Issuing Authority. Where can enter my FAA ATP?

7. In the flying school section, I graduated with an AS Degree and a Commercial Pilot Certificate, but not with ATP frozen. How do you enter this information? I also continued my education through online classes, and received an Undergraduate Certificate in Aviation Safety. Where do you enter this information?

8. Are the references contacted prior to an Interview invitation, or once they invite you to an Interview?

9. Who stamps the logbook?

10. How long does it take from the time you submit the application till an invitation for an interview?

Any answers to this questions will be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks..;)


BoredwLife
08-27-2008, 09:29 AM
1. I would claim your South American one. Most foreign countries are not big fans of US pilots and you have a better shot that way. (My opinion)

2. I choose Captain for all my flight instructing and figured that they could figure out what a PA-28 was. I donít think they really seem to care about the FE time.

3. I would enter the aircraft that most helps you most in the position your going after. I.E. If you have 2000 hours in a A330 and 500 on a 777 and your going for the A330 position use the 330.

4. I took it as total hours at the company.

5. I would list who you freelanced for or the company where the A/C was based.

6. You could try listing both like FAA/JAA.

7. Not sure.

8. Not sure.

9. The logbook need to be certified by your current company. Most likely your current Chief Pilot. Just needs the last page certified.

10. I think it will be quite awhile now.

Again these are all my own opinions and is what I did in some situations. It might not be right.

BURflyer
08-27-2008, 08:11 PM
Most foreign countries are not big fans of US pilots and you have a better shot that way. (My opinion)[t.

Care to explain why?


BoredwLife
08-27-2008, 08:29 PM
Itís been stated on here before and it is believed that Americans are lazy. Now take that when the part of the presentation showed the demographic of the company, Americans made up the least of any other group.

Yes I am American.

RawTriGuy
08-28-2008, 09:59 AM
Itís been stated on here before and it is believed that Americans are lazy. Now take that when the part of the presentation showed the demographic of the company, Americans made up the least of any other group.

Yes I am American.


I think that the bigger picture that you may not be seeing is that on the presentation when they showed the demographics of all the counties, was for all people working at the airline, not just the pilots. I think there where some 80-90 nationalities repersented. Looking at the airline as a whole the pilots make up a very small percentage of the total, so in my mind the American percentage would in fact be small, even though you have a large percentage in the pilot group that are from the US.

As for the nationality issue I have the opposite opinion. American pilots and pilots that are trained in the US are very well trained (and in general have much more experiance) compared to other parts of the world, that is why companies like Emeriates and Etihad are over here recruiting. We have a much better of well trained pilots here than in other parts of the world.

Sure Japan for example may have a great training program for their pilots but they are going into that B747 with essentially enough time to get a license and no real flying experiance, whereas a pilot on the same airplane in the states has probably been a flight instructor, flown single pilot night frieght in a piston twin, upgraded to some kind of a turboprop, moved into an RJ at a regional or two and upgraded and finally gotten to a position to get that B747 job after getting 10 or more years of flying experiance, if that same pilot was in the PAX side of things make that 15 to 20 years.

As far as lazy...:confused:

iflysky
08-28-2008, 10:42 AM
US pilots are not really lazy, but as Raw said very well trained with enormous flight time and experience under their belts as compared to their foreign counterparts (in general). Now, not to say that foreign training is worse, it is just they have a different approach (more theoretical, rather than practical as US). As a matter of fact M.E. countries like US pilots very much and have a great deal of respect for them, considering more than half of their local pilots were trained here in the US at ERAU (Saudi Arabian, Turkish) and UND. They are very familiar with our training and flying.

dojetdriver
08-28-2008, 11:19 AM
Care to explain why?

Just an observation. But I knew more than a few guys that applied for various contract jobs a while ago, all Asian based carriers. Of the guys that applied that had come to the U.S. from some other country and were now applying to the contract company, ALL of them got it. Those from the U.S. didn't seem to have the same acceptance rate. I'm guessing one of the things behind it is that the guy that has ALREADY moved to a new country, learned to do things another way, and assimilated to another culture might be a better fit since he has done it before.


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As for the nationality issue I have the opposite opinion. American pilots and pilots that are trained in the US are very well trained (and in general have much more experiance) compared to other parts of the world, that is why companies like Emeriates and Etihad are over here recruiting. We have a much better of well trained pilots here than in other parts of the world.

As far as lazy...:confused:

True, but it's the perception.