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Flyboy8784
09-09-2008, 08:14 PM
Anybody have any Info or payscales for Kingfisher??

Not sure if a Yankee like me can last in India....but hey....im young...recently single...think workin abroad could be something really cool to look back on.

Any information would be greatly appreciated....thanks boys!


nicholasblonde
09-09-2008, 08:42 PM
Kingfisher, Indigo, and many other Indian airlines are rumored to be going through some hard times. Even when times were "good" last year, Kingfisher and Indigo required a minimum of 100 hours on type (this was part of the DGCA's requirements for FAA license conversion, I believe). You'll notice a common thread on every single Indian job posting for expats: 100 hours in seat on type. A type rating for that airframe of course is 100% essential.

Check pprune.org and ppjn.com for factfiles/rumors on said companies. There is some talk that the DGCA has now banned foreign FOs from coming over, but that might be hogwash for all I know.

If you are an Indian citizen with an Indian CPL, you probably still have a shot, if you pay for the type.

China, Nigeria, and Slovenia are the only places overseas for us Yankee CRJ-drivers at the moment. Shenzen (China) with 300 PIC CRJ/3000TT, Adria (Slovenia) with 1500 PIC CRJ/3000TT, and Arik (Nigeria) with pretty much some time-on-type on the CRJ and a risk-taking (financially and otherwise) persona.

There do exist opps on the bigger stuff for RJ drivers without PIC or time-on-type overseas, but typically these require 1000+ SIC turbine glass & 2500-3000+ total time. At recent roadshows for companies such as Ethiad (a company with close to those numbers as published minimums for A320 FOs), applicants have been told they are only considering candidates with time on type. I know a guy who was in a group of CRJ captains who were told they had wasted their time coming since they had no Airbus P2/FO time.

Take my words for what they're worth (from a fellow CRJ FO), but I highly doubt you'll find any opps in India right now or in the near future unless you have some time on whatever it is you're trying to fly over there.

BoredwLife
09-09-2008, 09:37 PM
All expat FO's required to leave town.


BoredwLife
09-09-2008, 10:26 PM
NEW DELHI: From June 1, India's commercial aircraft will not have foreign co-pilots on board. This will open fresh opportunities for thousands of aspiring pilots in the airline industry, said a government official.

The development comes in the wake of the government's decision that Indian airlines should have only Indian co-pilots from June 1. The carriers are also required to discontinue the services of senior foreign pilots, designated as commanders, by July 2010, the official said.

According to official sources, leading private airline Jet Airways received over 900 applications for the 10 posts it had advertised for hiring co-pilots.

According to Kanu Gohain, chief of the Directorate General of Civil Aviation, a total of 1,490 foreign pilots were given licences last year to work for the Indian civil aviation sector.

"Despite having a valid commercial pilot licence (CPL), many of the aspiring young Indian pilots have not been able to get through any Indian air carriers," an airline official told IANS.

Initially, when India did not have an adequate number of well-trained pilots, the carriers hired foreign pilots and co-pilots. However, according to industry sources, now there are many trained Indian pilots waiting in the wings.

The Indian pilots employed with airlines also complain that their promotion avenues suffer as airlines hire many foreign senior pilots.

But now, the airline industry is feeling the pinch. It has to pay a hefty salary to these foreign pilots.

"We have a contractual agreement with these foreign pilots and so they cannot be asked to leave," a senior DGCA official said.

"We are quite happy that the foreign pilots will soon be replaced by Indian pilots," he added.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/3087955.cms (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Transportation/No_foreign_co-pilots_from_June_1/articleshow/3087955.cms)

Thedude
09-10-2008, 12:08 PM
"Despite having a valid commercial pilot licence (CPL), many of the aspiring young Indian pilots have not been able to get through any Indian air carriers," an airline official told IANS.


Of course he leaves out the part that the ink is still wet on their CML certifiicates and should not be flying pax aircraft at their experience level.

BoredwLife
09-10-2008, 12:49 PM
Of course he leaves out the part that the ink is still wet on their CML certifiicates and should not be flying pax aircraft at their experience level.

Exactly. Just like here 8 months ago.

cl601pilot
09-10-2008, 03:09 PM
Exactly. Just like here 8 months ago.

Send those kids back to flight instructing where they belong.

Flyboy8784
09-11-2008, 02:13 PM
Well it was a thought anyway....theres always Gulfair and Etihad :p

thanks boys

BoredwLife
09-11-2008, 02:36 PM
Etihad is a good option if you are typed and have at least 500 hours on type of any airctaft that they fly. If not, I was told directly from the head of recruiting that there currently are not any positions for non type rated applicants for the forseable future. Sorry just dont want you to waste your time. I dont know about Gulf air.

Flyboy8784
09-11-2008, 04:51 PM
its funny Etihad only just recently changed that...i saw them at a job fair not too long ago and they were lookin to pick up anyone with over 1000 jet....not even PIC

gulfair seems easy.....im just not sure what its like living in Bahrain

EYBusdriver
09-12-2008, 05:32 AM
Etihad used to have less than ten US pilots but with the furloughs seems that a high percentage of new hires are coming from the US. Supply and demand at work, with the large number of applicants the requirements have also increased. With Excel shutting down and Alitalia on the ropes the market will get tighter. Earlier this year a regional jet pilot was almost guaranteed a job here now they wont touch you unless you are experienced in type.