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Sonny Crockett
02-11-2009, 07:35 AM
Soon to be furloughed United guy. Second furlough and this will be my goodbye to old UAL-so I am looking outside the USA for a career not a stepping stone or wait for recall-I'm done with UAL.

B767/757, A320/319, B737-300/B727, MD80/DC-9, BA-4100/BA-3100 Types with PIC JET and TURBINE 10,000+ 3000PIC 121. Intl heavy jet, Glass, yadda yadda. 37 single-no kids and able to relocate.

Trying to fiqure out the best Pilot Recruitment company, which ones to stay away from-where to look (I know google yes..) any hints or suggestions.

Was offerd a job at Dana Air on the MD-80 for DEC. not sure if Africa is where I want to go JUST YET.

Comments, suggestions....?

Thanks!


jet320
02-11-2009, 08:36 AM
Soon to be furloughed United guy. Second furlough and this will be my goodbye to old UAL-so I am looking outside the USA for a career not a stepping stone or wait for recall-I'm done with UAL.

B767/757, A320/319, B737-300/B727, MD80/DC-9, BA-4100/BA-3100 Types with PIC JET and TURBINE 10,000+ 3000PIC 121. Intl heavy jet, Glass, yadda yadda. 37 single-no kids and able to relocate.

Trying to fiqure out the best Pilot Recruitment company, which ones to stay away from-where to look (I know google yes..) any hints or suggestions.

Was offerd a job at Dana Air on the MD-80 for DEC. not sure if Africa is where I want to go JUST YET.

Comments, suggestions....?

Thanks!


Really sorry to hear! but to help a little better what is your current type of metal? So I can't point you in the right direction.

Sonny Crockett
02-11-2009, 09:11 AM
Really sorry to hear! but to help a little better what is your current type of metal? So I can't point you in the right direction.

Current in Both B767/757 and Airbus 320/319


captjns
02-11-2009, 09:29 AM
Just a few aviation contractiong agencies to look into

Available Positions Through Crew Resources Worldwide (http://www.crewresourcesworldwide.com/positions.htm)

CRW is looking for 767 crews.


Airline Pilot Jobs & Pilot Employment - Rishworth Aviation Recruitment Specialists (http://www.rishworthaviation.com/)

PARC is another contracting agency to look into as well.

Good luck to you.

uspilot
02-11-2009, 01:39 PM
Qatar is looking for B777 Cap/FO. You might want to give them a ring. Sorry to hear that.

jet320
02-12-2009, 05:22 AM
Current in Both B767/757 and Airbus 320/319
Current in Both B767/757 and Airbus 320/319

OK Sonny, fresh up your fingers tips. Middle East A320

Bahrain Air:

www.bahrainair.net/page.php?page=pilots (http://www.bahrainair.net/page.php?page=pilots)

[email protected]

Gulf Air - Vacancy List (http://www.gulfaircareers.com/careers/gulfair/VacancyList.aspx?DivisionID=264&LocationID=0&Keyword=&VacancyNo=)

User Login (http://www.gulfaircareers.com/careers/UserRegistration.aspx?CompanyID=8)


Kuwait (Dry Country)

www.jazeeraairways.com (http://www.jazeeraairways.com/)

[email protected] He the Cap. in charge.

Captains: ATPL 6000TT 500 on Type A320
First Officers: 2000TT 300 on Type A320
ICAO ATPL
Medical Class 1

www.wataniyaairways.com/content.aspx?pageid=5 (http://www.wataniyaairways.com/content.aspx?pageid=5)

www.wataniyaairways.com (http://www.wataniyaairways.com/)



UAE:
http://careers.etihadairways.com/ehire/english/careers/jobDetails.aspx

Emirates Recruitment (http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/)


Jordan: Great Country the best in ME.

www.jordanaviation.jo (http://www.jordanaviation.jo/)

www.rj.com/AboutRJ/Careers/CockpitCrewCareers/tabid/201/locale/en-US/default.aspx (http://www.rj.com/AboutRJ/Careers/CockpitCrewCareers/tabid/201/locale/en-US/default.aspx)

Royal Jordanian, the company I work for, hires only Cap on type!

Oman Air:

www.omanair.aero (http://www.omanair.aero/)

www.omanair.aero/wy/general/careers/careers.htm (http://www.omanair.aero/wy/general/careers/careers.htm)

Saudia (Dry Country)

www.flysama.com (http://www.flysama.com/)

[email protected]

Ms. Noura Almalhouq


Best of luck I got more info on several companies in Asia, Australia.

KoruPilot
02-12-2009, 08:26 PM
Korean is hiring for the B777 of you are a current and qualified B767 skipper. Rishworth has a contract, but they'd be the last people that I'd call. Try CCL (Cambridge Communications Ltd.) email them at [email protected] for your request. The nice thing about KAL is that you domicile where you like as long as it is on their system. 13 day's off a month, two of which are for travel in a business class seat. I've heard of guy's starting TOD's out of their domicile as well, so could be good. Mixed reviews about working for them, but some really like it.

BoredwLife
02-12-2009, 11:40 PM
Im sorry to tell you this but I think you need a few MORE types to be competitive!! :rolleyes:

nicholasblonde
02-13-2009, 02:36 AM
I second that on Korean--www.kal-ccl.com

www.ppjn.com (http://www.ppjn.com) has some hit-or-miss gouge on terms & conditions at various outfits if you want to kick around on there

From a friend who is in the hiring pool at Emirates since last year, I've heard they might resume classes in 2009, and I'd assume you would be very competitive as DEFO/DEC???

Sonny Crockett
02-13-2009, 08:01 AM
Im sorry to tell you this but I think you need a few MORE types to be competitive!! :rolleyes:


Yeah you would think I would be on the upper end right?

Most responces I get is "you need 500 PIC in type"

Or

"You last landing was more then 90 days ago...we need someone more current"


I just applied to KAL via GAP Aviation, but I am not really keen on spending money for a A330 type.

Qatar is becoming my first choice!

Keep the advice coming!

Sonny Crockett
02-13-2009, 08:02 AM
Jet!

thanks for the awesome post....I am sure it will help myslef and others!

I owe ya a beer!

Cheers!!!!

OK Sonny, fresh up your fingers tips. Middle East A320

Bahrain Air:

www.bahrainair.net/page.php?page=pilots (http://www.bahrainair.net/page.php?page=pilots)

[email protected]

Gulf Air - Vacancy List (http://www.gulfaircareers.com/careers/gulfair/VacancyList.aspx?DivisionID=264&LocationID=0&Keyword=&VacancyNo=)

User Login (http://www.gulfaircareers.com/careers/UserRegistration.aspx?CompanyID=8)


Kuwait (Dry Country)

www.jazeeraairways.com (http://www.jazeeraairways.com/)

[email protected] He the Cap. in charge.

Captains: ATPL 6000TT 500 on Type A320
First Officers: 2000TT 300 on Type A320
ICAO ATPL
Medical Class 1

www.wataniyaairways.com/content.aspx?pageid=5 (http://www.wataniyaairways.com/content.aspx?pageid=5)

www.wataniyaairways.com (http://www.wataniyaairways.com/)



UAE:
http://careers.etihadairways.com/ehire/english/careers/jobDetails.aspx

Emirates Recruitment (http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/)


Jordan: Great Country the best in ME.

www.jordanaviation.jo (http://www.jordanaviation.jo/)

www.rj.com/AboutRJ/Careers/CockpitCrewCareers/tabid/201/locale/en-US/default.aspx (http://www.rj.com/AboutRJ/Careers/CockpitCrewCareers/tabid/201/locale/en-US/default.aspx)

Royal Jordanian, the company I work for, hires only Cap on type!

Oman Air:

www.omanair.aero (http://www.omanair.aero/)

www.omanair.aero/wy/general/careers/careers.htm (http://www.omanair.aero/wy/general/careers/careers.htm)

Saudia (Dry Country)

www.flysama.com (http://www.flysama.com/)

[email protected]

Ms. Noura Almalhouq


Best of luck I got more info on several companies in Asia, Australia.

cactusmike
02-13-2009, 08:30 PM
Sonny - I have a friend at Air Vietnam on the A320 and he enjoys working there. I'm not sure who the contractor is.

Best of luck, we have a bunch of America West guys hitting the streets right now as well, and I am sad to be losing some great people to fly with. This business sucks at times.

Sonny Crockett
02-14-2009, 06:49 AM
Sonny - I have a friend at Air Vietnam on the A320 and he enjoys working there. I'm not sure who the contractor is.

Best of luck, we have a bunch of America West guys hitting the streets right now as well, and I am sad to be losing some great people to fly with. This business sucks at times.


Thanks Cactusmike!

Why stick around at the bottom of a money losing legacy wasting more and more of your "earning" years? That is pretty much my attitude so I fiqure I will GET OUT before the furlough ax hits me.

I have found a few UAL bubbba's that are at Air Vietnam so I wouldn't mind giving them a shot....if they let me!

Keep the info coming!

monkeypaws
02-14-2009, 09:37 AM
Any tips for a guy with a little lower time?

I have about 2000 TT, 1000 Turbine, SIC Types on the EMB-145 and SF-340. I'm looking at my second furlough in the last 6 months, and have always been interested in the international flying.

Any chance? Thanks for the help.

Thedude
02-14-2009, 10:52 AM
Hate to break it to ya, but those SIC types aren't worth the paper they are written on outside of the US. Almost all countries want a full type with no restrictions. By no restrictions I mean the circling restriction.
Competition is tough right now and even high time guys are struggling to find jobs, maybe you can find a job overseas but I would not bet the house on it.

utedrummer
02-14-2009, 12:18 PM
Any tips for a guy with a little lower time?

I have about 2000 TT, 1000 Turbine, SIC Types on the EMB-145 and SF-340. I'm looking at my second furlough in the last 6 months, and have always been interested in the international flying.

Any chance? Thanks for the help.

Same boat here. 2 time on unemployment in less than 3 years. SIC in SF340b and EMB 170/175/190 but those SIC are crap. Sick of regional hopping but no chance of recall anytime soon.

monkeypaws
02-14-2009, 05:14 PM
Yeah, thats what I figured. Just seeing if anybody knew something that I didn't.

The Dominican
02-15-2009, 05:40 AM
Sonny, ANA is really not a bad place to hang your hat. I've been here for 2 years now and I'm enjoying it very much and so are all the guys here, they treat us and pay us well so it might be worth your while to take a look at it


Put your profile on PARC aviation, they are my contract company and have been very good to me



Soon to be furloughed United guy. Second furlough and this will be my goodbye to old UAL-so I am looking outside the USA for a career not a stepping stone or wait for recall-I'm done with UAL.

B767/757, A320/319, B737-300/B727, MD80/DC-9, BA-4100/BA-3100 Types with PIC JET and TURBINE 10,000+ 3000PIC 121. Intl heavy jet, Glass, yadda yadda. 37 single-no kids and able to relocate.

Trying to fiqure out the best Pilot Recruitment company, which ones to stay away from-where to look (I know google yes..) any hints or suggestions.

Was offerd a job at Dana Air on the MD-80 for DEC. not sure if Africa is where I want to go JUST YET.

Comments, suggestions....?

Thanks!

Sonny Crockett
02-16-2009, 04:50 AM
Thanks Dominican!

I got my stuff in with PARC

I flew a little for Air Santo Domingo and was based in Boca Chica for a stint....Crazy times Amigo!

The Dominican
02-16-2009, 05:34 AM
You did??? I wouldn't be surprised if we actually know each other, I flew for the parent company after Air Europa sold Air Santo Domingo. Servicios Aereos Profesionales, I flew the Let-410's and the B-1900's for them. The good old DR can be frustrating at times, but it sure is fun:D

Sonny Crockett
02-16-2009, 10:02 AM
You did??? I wouldn't be surprised if we actually know each other, I flew for the parent company after Air Europa sold Air Santo Domingo. Servicios Aereos Profesionales, I flew the Let-410's and the B-1900's for them. The good old DR can be frustrating at times, but it sure is fun:D


B727 SDQ to SJU

atpcliff
02-16-2009, 07:41 PM
Hi!

Etihad-U need 1000 glass jet.

The contractors for the Japan 767 jobs are: CREW PARC and IAC.

My brother told me the best places to live in Asia were the Bangkok area, and Vietnam. He is into outdoor sports and adventure.

I know that some of the contracts call for as little as 100 hours on type.

With your experience, I would NOT go to Dana Air.

I WOULD go, but my types are DA-20 and DC-9-so we're in a different boat.

cliff
GRB

Sonny Crockett
02-17-2009, 04:25 AM
Hi!

Etihad-U need 1000 glass jet.

The contractors for the Japan 767 jobs are: CREW PARC and IAC.

My brother told me the best places to live in Asia were the Bangkok area, and Vietnam. He is into outdoor sports and adventure.

I know that some of the contracts call for as little as 100 hours on type.

With your experience, I would NOT go to Dana Air.

I WOULD go, but my types are DA-20 and DC-9-so we're in a different boat.

cliff
GRB

Cliff,

If you want to fly for Dana Air give a call down to Aeroservice (Miami) and ask for Steven he is the contact man..and I think they are running a Full Type course (Africa or at least Nigeria requires a full course) I did hear three Midex guys walk away in school--but wih your DC9 time I think you should be able to swing it....

I am looking at the Asia and the Middle East.

Thanks!

Thedude
02-17-2009, 04:34 AM
Cliff,

I did hear three Midex guys walk away in school
Thanks!

Which Midex are you speaking of?

Sonny Crockett
02-18-2009, 08:58 AM
Which Midex are you speaking of?


Midwest Express (MKE DC-9 MD80 717 guys)

cactusmike
02-18-2009, 08:30 PM
Cliff - did you work for USA Jet? I used to work at Willow Run, I knew a lot of people there, including Active Aero, who I believe is where USA Jet started.

cm410638
02-20-2009, 03:03 AM
have you thought of looking at Qantas for the 767's or Jetstar for the A320's, there both great airlines and wow what can you say about Australia ey!!
:)

SD3FR8DOG
02-20-2009, 06:53 AM
Get married to an Australian then get an Australian Air Transport License. THEN apply to Qantas.

Tweet46
02-20-2009, 09:12 AM
Send a pm to mayfly135's....he went that route and it has not been easy.

Get married to an Australian then get an Australian Air Transport License. THEN apply to Qantas.

TPROP4ever
02-20-2009, 10:01 AM
Yeah you would think I would be on the upper end right?

Most responces I get is "you need 500 PIC in type"

Or

"You last landing was more then 90 days ago...we need someone more current"


I just applied to KAL via GAP Aviation, but I am not really keen on spending money for a A330 type.

Qatar is becoming my first choice!

Keep the advice coming!

That seems to be going around, but I wonder since no one that is currently flying right now is about to leave their job, just wouldnt make sense in this mess, at what point does the entire pool (so to speak) of the out on the street pilots fit into this category. sooner or later the only current pilots will be the ones employed...my head is spinning over the last 12 months of 121 aviation..

Also, i know its a step back for a lot of guys but are these leasing companies only hiring ex pats for the left seat, I have yet to see any of them advertising for right seaters, am I missing somthing here, I would assume mabye because these contries have plenty of their own people to fill the right seat but no qualified individuals for the left...any ideas, I dont have enough hours for an ATP yet...sigh

PCLCREW
02-22-2009, 07:53 PM
Soon to be furloughed United guy. Second furlough and this will be my goodbye to old UAL-so I am looking outside the USA for a career not a stepping stone or wait for recall-I'm done with UAL.

B767/757, A320/319, B737-300/B727, MD80/DC-9, BA-4100/BA-3100 Types with PIC JET and TURBINE 10,000+ 3000PIC 121. Intl heavy jet, Glass, yadda yadda. 37 single-no kids and able to relocate.

Trying to fiqure out the best Pilot Recruitment company, which ones to stay away from-where to look (I know google yes..) any hints or suggestions.

Was offerd a job at Dana Air on the MD-80 for DEC. not sure if Africa is where I want to go JUST YET.

Comments, suggestions....?

Thanks!


I would agree with the others that said Air Japan (ANA). Sounds like you are perfect for the job with all your type's. Japan is great I lived there for a year, and its a great place (Tokyo). Have fun if you do it!

I on the other hand have been furloughed 4 times with no types to show for it... sorry to hear about your trouble, but I wish I had half of your types!
Good luck my friend, but I doubt you need it!

KoruPilot
02-22-2009, 11:02 PM
TPROP, Lot's of companies over here hire for both seats. Contract wise I'd say KAL through GAP or AJX through Hawaiian. Also, Shanghai airlines until they froze hiring.