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purplepilot
02-10-2010, 03:06 PM
Where's the bid??


trashhauler
02-10-2010, 03:41 PM
When it's parked on the ramp and painted in purple and white! That's the only thing u can count on!

Unknown Rider
02-10-2010, 03:55 PM
Where's the bid??


Oh yeah, I need to put in my monthly bid. Thanks for the reminder!


Skimmology
02-10-2010, 04:09 PM
India......

FR8Hauler
02-10-2010, 04:20 PM
Do you mean the next excess bid? I can't wait!

FedExBusBoy
02-10-2010, 04:20 PM
Where's the bid??

It will be out this Friday.......

The Walrus
02-10-2010, 04:29 PM
Or next Friday.

Overnitefr8
02-10-2010, 06:30 PM
PC had to get back from China. The Pandas ate the paperwork.

FLMD11CAPT
02-10-2010, 07:16 PM
I agree........Friday...........

rev63
02-10-2010, 07:33 PM
No, no, really, it's coming out any second now.

R1200RT
02-10-2010, 07:52 PM
PC had to get back from China. The Pandas ate the paperwork.

I hear it was an UGLY landing! He is probably better at chair flying :)

Busdrivr
02-10-2010, 08:07 PM
Question.
How will the new Fuel Sense person feel about flying an empty (save 2 small animals and 4 managers) 777 form DC to China?

Nitefrater
02-10-2010, 08:12 PM
Question.
How will the new Fuel Sense person feel about flying an empty (save 2 small animals and 4 managers) 777 form DC to China?

He'll be told how he feels in the job interview.

BooyaOhYeah
02-10-2010, 08:40 PM
I hear it was an UGLY landing! He is probably better at chair flying :)

Should have used autoland to make themselves look good.

Knots2you
02-11-2010, 05:55 AM
PC had to get back from China. The Pandas ate the paperwork.

Maybe the paperwork was used to line the bottom of the cage, along with copies of our contract. I mean, if PC can just p*@s on the contract at will, why can't the pandas?

OffRoad5150
02-11-2010, 06:15 AM
Yet with all this snow and miserable weather in the NE, people will push themselves to the limit just to move the freight - not that they're fatigued and worried/intimidated about making a call to scheduling.

Safety first. Risking my ticket to fly overnight letters when I'm not "fit to fly" ain't worth it. And in our overmanned situation, I don't worry about a lack of crews.

AFW_MD11
02-11-2010, 06:52 AM
Question.
How will the new Fuel Sense person feel about flying an empty (save 2 small animals and 4 managers) 777 form DC to China?

Excellent question, Dwight!

The posting for the job already tells us how the person that will be hired will feel:
"...The most important qualification for the Fuel Sense Coordinator is a genuine interest and desire to contribute to this important cost savings initiative." ;)

rev63
02-12-2010, 01:56 PM
Question.
How will the new Fuel Sense person feel about flying an empty (save 2 small animals and 4 managers) 777 form DC to China?

Oh now, don't be silly, I'm sure they flew at LRC with min fuel. :cool:

The Walrus
02-12-2010, 02:59 PM
Well, maybe next Friday........

BooyaOhYeah
02-12-2010, 05:07 PM
Excellent question, Dwight!

The posting for the job already tells us how the person that will be hired will feel:
"...The most important qualification for the Fuel Sense Coordinator is a genuine interest and desire to contribute to this important cost savings initiative." ;)


The new Fuel Sense guy will have a desk right next to the Winter Ops Director. They will both be fired at the same time each year.

meatloaf
02-13-2010, 03:31 AM
Safety first. Risking my ticket to fly overnight letters when I'm not "fit to fly" ain't worth it. And in our overmanned situation, I don't worry about a lack of crews.

Amen, I thought, as I sat in my layover room the other day and watched the hotel phone ring over and over in a far off land. I wonder who it was? :rolleyes:

I don't worry anymore either.

DLax85
02-14-2010, 11:26 AM
Where's the bid??

Latest gouge from an LCA I know ---- sometime during the first 2 weeks of March.

YMMV.:)

FedExBusBoy
02-14-2010, 04:16 PM
Latest gouge from an LCA I know ---- sometime during the first 2 weeks of March.

YMMV.:)

March 5 to be exact.....

fr8av8r
02-14-2010, 05:44 PM
Latest gouge from an LCA I know ---- sometime during the first 2 weeks of March.

YMMV.:)

March 5 to be exact.....

This year? :p

FDX1
02-15-2010, 07:35 AM
Beware the Ides of March!;)

MaxKts
02-16-2010, 05:00 AM
March 5 to be exact.....

Perfect - it will close the day after I start training :(

RedeyeAV8r
02-16-2010, 11:03 AM
March 5 to be exact.....


Even more important question. What is the date (via FCIF) that it will be cancelled? :)

MEMFO4Ever
02-16-2010, 11:40 AM
Beware the Ides of March!;)

Why? They rock out... :D

YouTube - Ides of March - Vehicle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EBMo8xHGNs)

DLax85
03-01-2010, 09:48 AM
Where's the bid??

Now that it's March 1st, I think this thread is worth reviving.

Bueller? Bueller?

Where's the 757 Bid?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Who's got intel?

Born2AV8
03-01-2010, 10:19 AM
Now that it's March 1st, I think this thread is worth reviving.
Bueller? Bueller?
Where's the 757 Bid?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Who's got intel?

crew bus rumor. bid on 5 or 12 mar. don't have exact numbers but 777 and 757 capt vacancies and a rather large excess off the Airbus(mem)

Lindy
03-01-2010, 10:53 AM
Crew Bus Rumors are the best:

100 to the 757 (couldn't ascertain if 50/50 or 100/100)
50 Crews to 777

MD-11 HKG Bid Soon
757 European Bid too!


I suspect we will see a domestic bid, but a foreign domicile too?

Someone in the know:

1. 777 from Air France - when will FDX receive/operate?
2. 757 - how many currently on property? How many more to arrive this year?

993pilot
03-01-2010, 11:10 AM
Lindy,
I do know the answer to the first question. The two Air France birds will be in service in June of this year. The first one was the first 777F built and the second one was built around the time that our second one was built, line numbers 718 and 827. That's all I got.

The Walrus
03-01-2010, 11:13 AM
Probably two different bids, since a foreign domicile bid has to remain open a lot longer (45 days?) and they can't wait that long to refresh the 757 training letter.

Busboy
03-01-2010, 11:18 AM
Foreign domicile bid? For where, CDG?

Unless they are planning for CDG, or just opening a different FDA under Sec 6. of the CBA...They will need a new LOA.:confused:

FDXLAG
03-01-2010, 11:24 AM
HKG Mad dog according to earlier poster.

Busboy
03-01-2010, 11:27 AM
HKG Mad dog according to earlier poster.

This is what I was referring to:

Crew Bus Rumors are the best:

100 to the 757 (couldn't ascertain if 50/50 or 100/100)
50 Crews to 777

MD-11 HKG Bid Soon
757 European Bid too!...

FDXLAG
03-01-2010, 11:36 AM
That would be funny if the company opened a Section 6 domicile in Prague. I think they like the flexibility the SIBA gives them in Europe. Does not works as well for SIBA in HKG.

Here is my rumor they will open a 777 domicile in CDG to fly those CDG-CAN routes. I heard it from the guy who runs my dry cleaner.

DaRaiders
03-01-2010, 11:51 AM
crew bus rumor. bid on 5 or 12 mar. don't have exact numbers but 777 and 757 capt vacancies and a rather large excess off the Airbus(mem)

Any other excesses? 727? ANC? LAX?

727 fleet continues to shrink and BLGs are already low. I would also be interesting to see how a HKG MD base would affect ANC and LAX. Anybody?

MaydayMark
03-01-2010, 12:30 PM
Anybody else hear a rumor about our flag carrier application being denied? I wonder how that will affect 777 manning and any associated upcoming bid?

BooyaOhYeah
03-01-2010, 12:37 PM
I believe the FAA had some issues with the planned training for flag ops. FDX had apparently planned to do a 20 page CBT with a few questions. The FAA said..."Hell No. You need some ground school training and such."

That's the word on the street. The training departments are scrambling to get it done "today, if not sooner." We'll see.

Haywood JB
03-01-2010, 12:57 PM
Rumors I heard, were 75 bid was coming, they are trying to get the Flex's who were excessed back into the seat. The training letter is almost done, some 18 on property, 38 purchased so far.

77 bid to be included.

I haven't heard any numbers though, or if an excess is to accompany. I would suspect with all of the FDA canx's, that it would be seperate to keep the training cogs moving.

HJB

Wildmanny
03-01-2010, 02:25 PM
We all keep hearing the same numbers. I'm hearing just south of 100 in each seat on the 757. Flag ops means 20/1 ratio on the 777. Call it atleast 50 in each seat there. No Europe any time soon. MD in HKG? I'll believe it when I see it. Too soon. Boeing sales rep with our account has been directed to approach every customer with orders for the 777F, inquiring on whether they want to sell their slots to us (this guy told me this directly at a dinner party). We will be the launch customer for the P to F conversion and we are currently birddogging tails and operators for the best planes. KAL, JAL, early front runners. Clue, look for the early customers on the 787.

Here's a hot one: There will be some VP who is to be hired from outside the company to do a top down review on the whole shooting match, who will have trump power over PC and all flight ops, although he/she will have an equivalent title. Call it VP for regulatory compliance and operational operability and oversight. Sounds like Congress. It's probably about time for that. We could use a culture change IMHO. The seriousness of the situation is...serious!

FWIW boys, it is going to be interesting!

WM

P.S.--I might be completely full of $hiiite, but something's brewing.

The Walrus
03-01-2010, 02:36 PM
WM, are you on the 777?

HazCan
03-01-2010, 02:57 PM
We all keep hearing the same numbers. I'm hearing just south of 100 in each seat on the 757. Flag ops means 20/1 ratio on the 777. Call it atleast 50 in each seat there. No Europe any time soon. MD in HKG? I'll believe it when I see it. Too soon. Boeing sales rep with our account has been directed to approach every customer with orders for the 777F, inquiring on whether they want to sell their slots to us (this guy told me this directly at a dinner party). We will be the launch customer for the P to F conversion and we are currently birddogging tails and operators for the best planes. KAL, JAL, early front runners. Clue, look for the early customers on the 787.

Here's a hot one: There will be some VP who is to be hired from outside the company to do a top down review on the whole shooting match, who will have trump power over PC and all flight ops, although he/she will have an equivalent title. Call it VP for regulatory compliance and operational operability and oversight. Sounds like Congress. It's probably about time for that. We could use a culture change IMHO. The seriousness of the situation is...serious!

FWIW boys, it is going to be interesting!

WM

P.S.--I might be completely full of $hiiite, but something's brewing.

You are totally full of $hiiite, but that doesn't mean your rumor isn't true!

Lindy
03-01-2010, 03:26 PM
I heard the VP rumor too, albeit it was neither at a dinner party nor on a crew bus. Something about Safety & Oversight was used in the conversation.

(WM we must know the same sources??)

I'm not holding my breath for an European Domicile this year (or MD-11 HKG for that matter, but it was a rumor from the Crew Bus)!

MaxKts
03-01-2010, 03:34 PM
Wildmanny - Hazcan beat me to it :D:D

BooyaOhYeah
03-01-2010, 07:29 PM
So, I heard that PC would moved to another VP job and the new guy from outside the company would take his VP job. Juicy.

RAC396
03-02-2010, 09:05 AM
Rumors I heard, were 75 bid was coming, they are trying to get the Flex's who were excessed back into the seat. The training letter is almost done, some 18 on property, 38 purchased so far.

77 bid to be included.

I haven't heard any numbers though, or if an excess is to accompany. I would suspect with all of the FDA canx's, that it would be seperate to keep the training cogs moving.

HJB

Don't think the 75 bid will be anytime soon. We are giving two of our aircraft to the company who flyes inter Canada freight. They will get three airframes as they come through mod. The training dept is gearing up to train the canaden pilots. Losing two airframes should bring down BLGs and make posters on this forem happy.

MaydayMark
03-02-2010, 09:16 AM
Don't think the 75 bid will be anytime soon. We are giving two of our aircraft to the company who flyes inter Canada freight. They will get three airframes as they come through mod. The training dept is gearing up to train the canaden pilots. Losing two airframes should bring down BLGs and make posters on this forem happy.


??????????

FDXLAG
03-02-2010, 09:23 AM
??????????


When flying 100+ hours a month must be hard to find time to spell check. ;)

MeXC
03-02-2010, 09:40 AM
>>Losing two airframes should bring down BLGs and make posters on this forem happy.<<

Why, exactly, do you think this in particular would make anyone happy?

FDXLAG
03-02-2010, 09:53 AM
>>Losing two airframes should bring down BLGs and make posters on this forem happy.<<

Why, exactly, do you think this in particular would make anyone happy?


Don't know about you but I will be happier if they take some hours from a bidpack that is over contract mins and put them in a bidpack that is under contract mins. After all isn't that mostly the point of having contract mins?

The Walrus
03-02-2010, 09:58 AM
But taking them from the 757 and giving them to the Cnucks shouldn't make anyone happy.

KnightFlyer
03-02-2010, 10:12 AM
Anyone from Morningstar know anything?

Morningstar Air Express Inc. - Home (http://www.maei.ca/)

FDXLAG
03-02-2010, 10:15 AM
But taking them from the 757 and giving them to the Cnucks shouldn't make anyone happy.

The canucks are already doing the flying, it makes no difference what airframe they use.

Since the 727 is overmanned and the 757 is undermanned it is a very good time to make the move for the Fedex pilots as a whole. Would you rather they take 3 more 727s or airbie out of service?

Haywood JB
03-02-2010, 11:28 AM
RAC,

The bid info for the 75 is from JM, so I think that rumor is pretty solid. If you look at the FO bid pack, there are a whopping THREE R lines for March! Yeah, they are justifying the new checkouts in the seat will get reserve, but it still looks to me like the plane is undermanned. I seriously doubt the company will let whats left of the Flex guys sit around and only do recurrents and no training, when they have purchased as many planes as they have.

HJB

RAC396
03-02-2010, 11:42 AM
RAC,

The bid info for the 75 is from JM, so I think that rumor is pretty solid. If you look at the FO bid pack, there are a whopping THREE R lines for March! Yeah, they are justifying the new checkouts in the seat will get reserve, but it still looks to me like the plane is undermanned. I seriously doubt the company will let whats left of the Flex guys sit around and only do recurrents and no training, when they have purchased as many planes as they have.

HJB

Hub;
I don't doubt your logic,but the flex guys will not be setting, they will be training the morning star pilots. The limit is Sims not instructors.

viperdriver
03-02-2010, 12:21 PM
Does Fedex own Morningstar? Have we trained other pilots before?

MX727
03-02-2010, 01:18 PM
Does Fedex own Morningstar? Have we trained other pilots before?

Doesn't matter and Yes

Morningstar Air Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morningstar_Air_Express)

http://www.maei.ca/index.php?page=company

Freedoms of the air - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedoms_of_the_air)

We don't want to fly the intra-Canadian flights, because we don't want foreign airlines to have a hub in the US flying between US cities.

OKLATEX
03-02-2010, 01:38 PM
But taking them from the 757 and giving them to the Cnucks shouldn't make anyone happy.

They have had 4 of our 727s for sometime. Last I looked, and it has been a few years, the airplanes that flew for Morningstar were, 233,234,235,236. I was in Montreal last month and had one parked at the gate next to us.

From what I have heard, the 727s are being retired as they come up for "D" checks, so maybe the Morningstar 727s are getting close.

Sea Pig
03-02-2010, 02:22 PM
I like the hiring minimums on their web site:
2000 hours total time to apply for C-208B (Single Pilot IFR)
1000 hours total time to apply for B-727 Second Officer.It confirms my worst fears about how panel monkey breaks out in the pecking order. Maybe I should quit the S/O gig and move on up to flying 'vans at a feeder.

Wildmanny
03-02-2010, 03:55 PM
WM, are you on the 777?

No Walrus. I'm just a little narrowbody guy with a small opinion. I try to think how this all fits together. I'm no more educated on what's going on than anyone else. Most of the time I get it wrong, which is why I disclaim myself, by saying I could be completely full of it. All I know is that something's got to give and the guys running the show maybe need to change.

WM :cool:

frozenboxhauler
03-02-2010, 05:03 PM
I like the hiring minimums on their web site:
2000 hours total time to apply for C-208B (Single Pilot IFR)
1000 hours total time to apply for B-727 Second Officer.It confirms my worst fears about how panel monkey breaks out in the pecking order. Maybe I should quit the S/O gig and move on up to flying 'vans at a feeder.

No idea what you're talking about, the mins are still 1500 hours. Who's web site are you refering to?
The 208s' are single pilot ops and are contracted out. The 727 is a seniority number with FedEx.
fbh

The Walrus
03-02-2010, 05:06 PM
No idea what you're talking about, the mins are still 1500 hours. Who's web site are you refering to?
The 208s' are single pilot ops and are contracted out. The 727 is a seniority number with FedEx.
fbh

I think he is talking about Morningstar, not Fedex.

MX727
03-03-2010, 07:59 AM
No idea what you're talking about, the mins are still 1500 hours. Who's web site are you refering to?
The 208s' are single pilot ops and are contracted out. The 727 is a seniority number with FedEx.
fbh

Must read entire thread. :p