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MacGuy2
02-15-2010, 08:52 AM
Question for you international jet pilots....

Do any of you use noise canceling earphones? I flew an IOE trip to Asia a couple of weeks ago. The Chinese controllers all sounded like they were talking with marbles in their mouths. Of course it could have been that I had marbles in my ears. But I was wondering if it would help me to more clearly understand what these foreign controllers are saying. Thanks.

MG2


slowdryver2
02-15-2010, 10:15 AM
I'm not sure any headset would help hear chinese controllers, but I bought a Sennheiser HMEC 46 a couple of years ago and have been happy with it. Lightweight and comfortable. For me it was between Sennheiser and Bose. Chose Sennheiser due to the uncertainty of how the Bose would "cup" over the ear. Was afraid of how hot it might get on longer trips and of cross-cockpit communication. I have talked with people with Bose products and they are happy too. Bose does have a little better noise reduction capability.
Good luck in your search.

EMBFlyer
02-15-2010, 10:19 AM
If you're worried about having more noise cancellation and being able to hear the other pilot, Sennheiser just came out with these....

Sennheiser USA - lightweight closed aviation headset, HMEC 26, Active Noise Reduction - Professional Audio (http://www.sennheiserusa.com/professional_aviation_headset_active-noise_502399)

They have a model that has a Talk-through function, so you can leave both ears covered and it picks up the conversation in the ear that faces the other pilot. They look cool.


FrontSeat
02-15-2010, 10:47 AM
The best way to cancel out airplane noise is to get hired by ups in 2007.

JustUnderPar
02-15-2010, 11:30 AM
Question for you international jet pilots....

Do any of you use noise canceling earphones? I flew an IOE trip to Asia a couple of weeks ago. The Chinese controllers all sounded like they were talking with marbles in their mouths. Of course it could have been that I had marbles in my ears. But I was wondering if it would help me to more clearly understand what these foreign controllers are saying. Thanks.

MG2

See lots of guys using the Bose QC15's. Seem pretty nice......FYI

FR8TFLYER
02-15-2010, 12:15 PM
The best way to cancel out airplane noise is to get hired by ups in 2007.

True! It may be better for your overall health to get away from this corrupt organization for awhile.

noser
02-15-2010, 12:15 PM
I have been flying to China for over 9 years and it just takes time to understand what they are saying. As for noise canceling headsets, just remember that we don't an ICS system in the 11, so what ever you use make sure that you can hear the other guy.

CargoCan
02-15-2010, 12:18 PM
See lots of guys using the Bose QC15's. Seem pretty nice......FYI


I use the QC15's for deadheads and jumpseats. Definite recommend if you can get past the steep pricetag. I don't use them when operating though, I'm more of an overhead speaker guy...

CactusCrew
02-15-2010, 12:24 PM
I'm a cheap pilot, and what do you know, looking at a furlough next year ...

I went with the Telex 850. Found a nice used one on E-bay for $250-$300. Works great, lasts a long time. Compact and simple to use.

I use speaker in cruise and use the headset otherwise. It really depends on how much you are going to use your headsets on a flight as to what the best for for you will be.

Just sayin ...

pegasus6234
02-16-2010, 02:42 AM
I like the LightSpeed Mach 1 with the custom ear molds. Passive noise canceling, but it is extremely light weight, comfortable, and quiet. On an 11 hr flight, both ears are protected, and you don't have leave the ear pointing toward the other pilot unprotected.

742Dash
02-16-2010, 04:21 AM
A good headset is the smartest investment you can make, especially if you are flying internationally.

I use a Bose X in a 744, and am noticing more and more of them being carried by other pilots. However if I were shopping today I would look for something that was lighter/smaller.

Would you rather see maintenance working on the airplane with good tools or with an adjustable wrench? It is the same with us -- quality work requires quality tools.

Precontact
02-16-2010, 05:18 AM
Recently purchased a Sennheiser HMEC-26-BV-K. Not cheap (circa $800) but totally worth every penny. Extremely lightweight = comfort and the Ipod input is pretty cool too...especially when it auto cutouts when ATC calls. :)

MaxKts
02-16-2010, 05:34 AM
....Ipod input is pretty cool too...

FCIF to follow - watch what you say on these boards. They are read everyday by big brother :(

HoursHore
02-16-2010, 06:07 AM
The only thing that helps with Chinese Controllers is Time. They are also like Americans, If you say "Say again" they only talk louder.

MacGuy2
02-16-2010, 07:30 AM
Thanks to all you guys/gals for your thoughts. I'm wondering if noser and HoursHore have it right that it's just a matter of 'time in country' listening to these foreign controllers talk. I was a domestic pilot for a long time so I guess it's just going to take some time to figure out what these guys are saying.

OK, now back to the "My Over 60 Captain" thread. It's a lot more interesting than worrying about headsets.

Thanks again.

MG2

Precontact
02-16-2010, 07:41 AM
FCIF to follow - watch what you say on these boards. They are read everyday by big brother :(

YEah yeah I know, but there wasn't much going on at 35W at 2AM...but message heeded.

FearlessFreep
02-16-2010, 07:47 AM
Another factor of noise canceling headsets that was not mentioned; they are very helpful in dealing with fatigue. What is not realized is that a very noisy environment can produce a fair amount of fatigue.

I have been using a Bose X headset for about 8 years. We fly a myriad of different 742/743 aircraft with many different headset jacks, so I have a number of adapters that I use to jack in. On one aircraft we have it has completely oddball XLR connections - male connectors on the aircraft versus the standard female (the "hot" side of any connection should be female to avoid shorts). In any case I had to fly with the aircraft headset after I de-skanked it with copious amounts of isopropyl alcohol. What I found was that after the flight I was much more tired than when I flew with my Bose headsets on.

Some other considerations are that if you are using the ship's headset you are more likely to get ill than if you are using your own headset.

Clarity of radio communications through the noise reduction circuitry is more distinct than regular headsets. This is great for overseas ops and anywhere there are substandard radio transmissions.

Shaggy1970
02-16-2010, 08:48 AM
Bose Avation X with the Blulink Bluetooth Cellphone Adapter is the way to go!

FXDX
02-16-2010, 10:21 AM
Max:

Good advice, but you kind of c-blocked him with the quote.

He can't edit that, but you can. :)



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