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1st overnite
02-16-2010, 11:28 AM
The SIG notes said that the ATL, CVG and SMF hotel standbys should be available for open time. They were all in open time over the weekend, but I just checked and none are in there. The add/drop hasn't started so I was wondering what happened to them. Doesn't affect my schedule, just curious.


Sluggo_63
02-16-2010, 11:32 AM
The SIG notes said that the ATL, CVG and SMF hotel standbys should be available for open time. They were all in open time over the weekend, but I just checked and none are in there. The add/drop hasn't started so I was wondering what happened to them. Doesn't affect my schedule, just curious.Got called Thursday night for a Draft ATL hotel standby (727 SO)... so sorry, going be celebrating Fat Tuesday a few days early... call some other pogue.

Overnitefr8
02-16-2010, 12:36 PM
The SIG notes said that the ATL, CVG and SMF hotel standbys should be available for open time. They were all in open time over the weekend, but I just checked and none are in there. The add/drop hasn't started so I was wondering what happened to them. Doesn't affect my schedule, just curious.

Custom lines of guys just checking out maybe?


1st overnite
02-16-2010, 01:51 PM
I thought about that, but there were about 12 trips, and I doubt they would all be gone.

FDXLAG
02-16-2010, 02:11 PM
They are no longer in the F/O seat open time either.

30 From Bottom
02-16-2010, 05:02 PM
I wrote down all the trip #s and dates and they are all gone. March was supposed to be the last month of these, but, maybe the contract ended early?

SeeDub
02-16-2010, 05:49 PM
Didn't add up the total CHs, but maybe there was going be so much open time left after secondary assignments they didn't want the obvious staring us in the face. The obvious being there is more than enough CHs out there for everyone to have at least 68. Just a guess, but I'm sure someone out there is busy with a calculator as I type.

SD

FDXLAG
02-16-2010, 06:19 PM
Didn't add up the total CHs, but maybe there was going be so much open time left after secondary assignments they didn't want the obvious staring us in the face. The obvious being there is more than enough CHs out there for everyone to have at least 68. Just a guess, but I'm sure someone out there is busy with a calculator as I type.

SD

Gunter already did it in the B Scale Thread:

SIG notes says we have 7700 hrs in the 727 for March. Has it changed the last 6 months? I doubt it's gone up any.

41 hrs X 3 pairings X 4 weeks = 492 hrs.


Looks like a 6.3% increase in the line average.

SeeDub
02-16-2010, 08:13 PM
Gunter already did it in the B Scale Thread:

Thanks for the info.

Seeing as I had some extra time on my hand, I wanted to see if my theory was even close to being true. So here is what I came up with in the SO seat.

Total CH now in Open time is roughly 1450

Total CH for the suddenly missing X pairings courtesy of Gunter is 492

Which gives us a grand total of 1942 CH that should be going to secondary line holders.

If the company attempted to completely distribute those hours among the 21secondary line holders, then each would have almost 93 CHs.

If the company stuck with the average SO BLG of approximately 60CH then that would leave 682 CHs in open time after the assignment window closed. Which by the way is enough increase the BLG of all 124 published lines by 5.5CHs.

If nothing else, these are interesting numbers. And To be fair, I've never ran an airline before, but I'm guessing that you don't normally plan on reserve pilots covering trips such as these left in open time during the monthly line building process but rather for the other X-pairings that pop up unexpectedly.

I'm sure you guys will let me know if I made a mistake in math and/or logic.
SD

Busboy
02-16-2010, 10:01 PM
Your figures for open time right now would be off by the amount that is going to be picked up due to Phase-In-Conflicts and training conflicts, prior to the Secondaries being built.

Hard to say how much that would be. Probably not as much in the 727 as the BUS and the MD11, as those aircraft still have some major carryover lines and longer trips in general. But, it may still be a substantial amount with training conflicts.

SeeDub
02-17-2010, 07:40 AM
Your figures for open time right now would be off by the amount that is going to be picked up due to Phase-In-Conflicts and training conflicts, prior to the Secondaries being built. ...

Actually it looks like I'm not that far off based on the FCIF released today with secondary line max values.



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